I suppose? Jimquisitions aren't always about gaming news. Sometimes they're just about general gaming related topics.
I suppose? Jimquisitions aren't always about gaming news. Sometimes they're just about general gaming related topics.
Castlevania II was actually the first Castlevania game that played in that style.
I've heard some people say that Metroidvania should be used for those games that apply more RPG elements like the Castlevania games did, while Metroid-like would be used for those games without those elements (like Axiom Verge).Also, to me at least, the Vania part signifies that another franchise took the Metroid formula and broke it open. Applied the fundamentals to other genres, and began mutating them.
FPSs stopped being called Doom Clones around the time they fundamentally moved away from Doom's framework. Open World games similarly stopped being GTA clones for similar reasons.
Metroidvania sticks around because a lot of these games havent fundamentally moved past Super Metroid and SotN.
You only say that because you, through years of exposure, understand what first person shooter means as far as genre conventions go and why, say, Skyrim isn't one, while Hexen would be.hey might be useful shorthand in some communities but if you were to pitch something like Hallow Knight to a random person on the street by saying its a "Metroidvania" they'd just look at you like your stupid. The word does nothing to communicate WHAT the game is unless you already have predefined knowledge of other video games and its a garbage term because of it.
Unlike those paragons of descriptivenessYes. Terms like Metroidvania and Soulsbourne are garbage.
They might be useful shorthand in some communities but if you were to pitch something like Hallow Knight to a random person on the street by saying its a "Metroidvania" they'd just look at you like your stupid. The word does nothing to communicate WHAT the game is unless you already have predefined knowledge of other video games and its a garbage term because of it.
I suppose? Jimquisitions aren't always about gaming news. Sometimes they're just about general gaming related topics.
You only say that because you, through years of exposure, understand what first person shooter means as far as genre conventions go and why, say, Skyrim isn't one, while Hexen would be.
So why Skyrim isn't one? I'm a person untouched by gaming, please explain! I just thought it meant you shoot the first person you see?First Person Shooter literally describes what it is though... a shooter game from the first person. Lmao.
Skyrim's not a first person shooter because you can swing a sword in third person if you want.So why Skyrim isn't one? I'm a person untouched by gaming, please explain! I just thought it meant you shoot the first person you see?
Yeah it's like RPG. You could take that in a super vague way just reading "role playing game" because then like anything where you're playing a character is technically playing that role. Which obviously there's more to it than just the face value.You only say that because you, through years of exposure, understand what first person shooter means as far as genre conventions go and why, say, Skyrim isn't one, while Hexen would be.
As a linguist I find genre discussions highly interesting and like that Jim tackles this question (I remember his video about 'consumer'). I don't think the term is going anywhere in near future. Further than that it's highly unlikely to predict what happens with language and expressions.
Good answer, feel like the same applies to "Soulsborne" as a "genre"
Hell, half of jRPGs has no roleplaying to speak of.Yeah it's like RPG. You could take that in a super vague way just reading "role playing game" because then like anything where you're playing a character is technically playing that role. Which obviously there's more to it than just the face value.
Action RPG is 2D legend of Zelda in my mindPathfinder is way too vague of a term.
As a linguistics enthusiast, I have to agree with this. Language always evolves naturally and it's why sticking to a dictionary is a fools errand. Dictionaries are always playing catch up to the language they're meant to compile. As long as people keep using a word it's going to stick.
People use Metroidvania and as long as people understand what it means, it'll continue to be used.
I kind of wish people would trying to push "soulsborne" as a genre. We already have terms to describe Dark Souls and Bloodborne. They're action RPGs. Does the vague story telling, healing system and losing currency upon death system really warrant a whole new genre to describe them?
Bigger mainstream recognition.2) castlevania symphony of the night is a good game, but didn't add anything to the genre.
But then you have people that use ARPG to describe stuff cut from the same cloth as Diablo.
I also have a problem with the name ... but just "why the hell is castlevania there?" because
1) at the point of the genre creation most castlevanias aren't even a metroidvania
2) castlevania symphony of the night is a good game, but didn't add anything to the genre. I mean it has rpg elements but not having lvl up does not take Hollow Knight from the genre.
Try being a metal fan.
But then you have people that use ARPG to describe stuff cut from the same cloth as Diablo.
It's a fucking mess.
Yeah, this one bothered me, too. When I first heard about that genre, I learned "Dota" as the genre name. LoL would have been "a Dota" to me. I've since adjusted to MOBA but it is a pretty terrible name. Taken at face value it sounds like it should include any game in which multiple people fight in an "arena" online. So some fighting games, most FPS games, arguably Fortnite, Overwatch, etc.Would like to tack on that Riot literally created the term MOBA out of thin air so that LoL wasn't called a Dota-Clone.
Also, MOBA is a fucking terrible genre name, but again, when you call something a MOBA, people know what you mean.
i believe the non-pejorative term is "Environmental Narrative Game"I think the only genre I would want to have actively changed is "walking simulator" since it seems to be born from a petty asshole reductionist gamer mindset.