Shin Megami Tensei V |OT| Da'at Hair
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Just got past that school part and I'm wondering how I ever played Nocturne (not that I beat it)
The first area conditioned me so much to being able to see and initiate every encounter that the few in this section that were "jump scares" stressed me out, then I remember Nocturne had random encounters
The first area conditioned me so much to being able to see and initiate every encounter that the few in this section that were "jump scares" stressed me out, then I remember Nocturne had random encounters
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Yes and no. Levels indeed don't matter so much, but a bit of grinding often is necessary in order to build the right team; recruiting and fusing the demons you want, levelling them up and ensuring they have the right skills and affinities. You won't always have the demons readily available to tackle a bossfight.
As much as I ultimately enjoyed the shift that was definitely the low point of my experience thus far. Encounters that get the drop on you and go first can become a death sentence very easily on Hard and that segment just being full of them made it a chore to go through. I had to warp back to the save and record my progress after pretty much every fight.
Yeah, that's pretty much how I played it which was annoying. Didn't help that again unlike the first section, the save point had a short loading screen to reach it
About 9 hours in and still in the first region. Too fun looking for the Mini Medal demons & other secrets.
lol I've been playing it docked most of the time
you can turn your joy cons into a controller or get the switch controller
I never mind dying in videogames, not even when a game's difficult but getting kicked to the menu screen and having to manually load the save isn't really cool. Just kick me back to the last savepoint because after a dying a couple of times I just call it a day.
I honestly didn't mind that part too much. I think mainly because it wasn't incredibly long and didn't overstay it's welcome.
The whole idea of protecting the students from this active demon attack in this desperate feeling situation was really neat. You just attended this school as a normal student not ten minutes before this happened, which was neat seeing it in a totally different light. There were no random encounters, only the scripted ones by the demons in the hallways. The only real surprises were the students that turned into demons, and the one where you had three fights in a row. There was a Leyline Fount outside, and if you had to warp back every fight or two, no big deal. It's not like you had to dodge enemies coming back. After you save the Jack Frost and he offers you healing, that makes things a lot easier. I played on Hard myself. I didn't really find this to be much of a "dungeon" like you would find in traditional MegaTen games, but I also didn't mind this part, it felt pretty inoffensive to me.
I think I agree, the scenes just feel slow and oddly paced. IV's was snappy and felt appropriately paced and better directed overall imo.
That feeling when you gamble on Aramasa getting you a crit, it pays off and your next demon can finish off the boss. So good
I've had to skip a fair number of cutscenes, most when it is two humans talking to each other, and my enjoyment of the game went up considerably. The cutscenes needed dialogue advance. As it is now, that entire aspect of the game feels like a giant step down from Nocturne (skippable dialogue) or DDS (animated scenes that were brief and to the point).
It feels like the game is a return to the general style of those PS2 games, without being helmed by people that were on those teams to make things run faster and flow better. Same with commands popping up for the next turn before the previous animation was fully done. That is one of the main reasons why battles feel so sluggish compared to the previous press turn systems. Instead the player is stuck watching a slow hit reaction animation that didn't lock out menus in previous games.
I gave up on it early but Aramasa seems outclassed really quickly. The other STR skill I got that was almighty was fairly useless too. At this point I'm focusing on debuff attacks like fang breaker and relying on beatdown for big hits and they're getting the job done more often than not.
Also is there like, a numerical value for skills like beast eye and bloody glee that boost the chance of hitting or critting? I'm keeping the latter for now but I've always been wary of these skills that don't give the raw data.
Also is there like, a numerical value for skills like beast eye and bloody glee that boost the chance of hitting or critting? I'm keeping the latter for now but I've always been wary of these skills that don't give the raw data.
Really?
I've got 120str at level 74 and i still can't find anything better than aramasa and wrath tempest, 8 hits means more chance of something critting which is so good. Also Aramasa's damage is equal to that of two Heavy attacks basically. Once I start getting Severe phys damage abilities is when ill ditch it. But I've been flying through everything in the fourth daat.
Bless her heart~
it's nice seeing a diversity of megaten players
Demons with high luck and agility are better for status ailments, which means they can be set up to prioritize non-damage stuff like stat buffs/debuffs. I highly suggest giving him hama tho because no matter how powerful you are, when an enemy is weak to light they will be dropped like a bad habit if a Hama spell hits them just right, haha.
If you can, I'd personally replace Poisma with tarunda or rakunda (atk down or def down) using an essence if possible, it would help you out in a boss fight in a bit, as both those things are very helpful.
Speaking of which, a buff/debuff will flash when it will run out the next turn, and you can recast a buff/debuff to reset the timer on it. Plus, before you fight, you can adjust your party to maximize efficiency in a boss fight or encounter by manuvering your characters around to make sure you have someone hitting weakness at the first and second/third slots, so you'll always have the full eight actions as you keep the damage pressure up, and can use some of them for healing or stat stuff or physical moves.
Oh no
Ah well. Maybe I'll find a way to get it back. Early on it was just not that great comparatively
Personally I find I don't utilize the status ailments nearly enough, it's worth having a few dangerous ones on a demon with high stats for it, because Accursed Poison, the Raptor/Avian Magatsuhi skill (debilitate effect [-1 to everything for three turns] and guaranteed status ailment), has shown me that the most brutal status ailments can really pack a whallop, especially seal. It can all depend on what the enemy resists of course but it's helpful nonetheless. I'd keep Makajama on a demon just in case it helps, just make sure they have the luck for it, haha.
I'm loving the first Nahobino exclusive magic attack, it's got me glad I went into magic this time around with how it deals roughly 200 damage without any buffs/debuffs present, haha.
Now I just need to level enough to get one of those skills that lets an ally put concentration on someone else and my Nahobino is gonna be in damage city.
Also shoutouts to Chironnupu (or Chironup as it is now?) for basically being the earliest example of Luster Candy, I wanna keep them relevant for a long time cause they are hambonin' me to not dying on Hard for a long time : D
Now I just need to level enough to get one of those skills that lets an ally put concentration on someone else and my Nahobino is gonna be in damage city.
Also shoutouts to Chironnupu (or Chironup as it is now?) for basically being the earliest example of Luster Candy, I wanna keep them relevant for a long time cause they are hambonin' me to not dying on Hard for a long time : D
Question about the last boss/cutscene in the 2nd area
During the choice before you start the Lahmu fight I chose to try and save Tao's friend. After I beat the boss though the girl was still possessed by Lahmu and Tao died/vanished after resurrecting me. It's probably not the case but if I chose the other option would that cutscene have played out differently?
Yeah he's great, I kept him into the mid-late thirties because of how good his unique skill isI'm loving the first Nahobino exclusive magic attack, it's got me glad I went into magic this time around with how it deals roughly 200 damage without any buffs/debuffs present, haha.
Now I just need to level enough to get one of those skills that lets an ally put concentration on someone else and my Nahobino is gonna be in damage city.
Also shoutouts to Chironnupu (or Chironup as it is now?) for basically being the earliest example of Luster Candy, I wanna keep them relevant for a long time cause they are hambonin' me to not dying on Hard for a long time : D
Brave Blade with Murderous Glee and High Restore is killing it on my Str + Luck build while barely using any MP. Murakumo is also insane with the critical Magatsuhi skill.
The toughest boss in this game yet is the abscess boss team of level 99 Onmoraki, Preta, Slime and Pixie lmao. Took me three tries at level 62 and some Sleep and Seal gems.
I just wanna downgrade a future powerful couple of demons just to get him tons of levels and top notch skills to work with, he's such a lil' trooper : 0
I'm not sure if they're rare drops from battles, but you can find Aogami essences in the wild after you first find them from chests.
Boo! The first time I've gone for a strength build in any SMT game, and I'm getting my ass handed to me in the first region. I'm going to have to really balance my team for targeting elemental weaknesses.
She's level 37, you should be ready. Be warned that she has game breaking abilities when you get her. A 15 hit physical move and a physical attack that gives a free 3 turn two drop defense down.
I really enjoyed strength builds in previous games, but I dont think ... especially on hard, its all that equally balanced here. Magic build seems way better.
I was curious about the same thing so I loaded up my save from before the fight and picked the option to focus on Lahmu instead of saving the friend. The cutscene that followed the choice, as well as the post-fight events, played out exactly the same way.
I never played IV, but I kept thinking back on III about how in no way in hell was it remotely this hard, and it wasn't just nostalgia goggles either. It was more annoying though when it came to fusions. With a guide, no big deal, but without one it was a very long process of trial and error.
Enemies have so much more health in this game and also do freakish amounts of burst damage at will that can instantly wipe out three of your group at once, and not simply with something they are weak against either. Stupid Heat Wave or whatever it is loves to always crit when a boss does it, which then leads directly into another turn and another Heat Wave. There's "hard" and then there's bullshit RNG you can do nothing about.
Oof. Well I'm doing it more for the fights themselves and I don't have to use her. At the very least a 15 hit phys attack would be great if I ever get the ability to use demon unique skills with MC.
Anyone have a list of *need* to buy miracles? I want to make sure I don't waste glory (or at least waste it in terms of getting useless stuff early and having to wait to get good stuff)
Like I'm assuming Divine Amalgamation and Art of Essences are useful to get more out of learning from essences?
And increasing demon skill # and my skill # is obviously paramount? As well as increasing demon stock so I have more people with me leveling up and able to be switched out?
And if I'm going physical, do I need anything from the cosmos tab? Is there a physical mastery (I assume so)?
I'm JUST playing handheld for the first time right now and I thought the exact same thing
Like I'm assuming Divine Amalgamation and Art of Essences are useful to get more out of learning from essences?
And increasing demon skill # and my skill # is obviously paramount? As well as increasing demon stock so I have more people with me leveling up and able to be switched out?
And if I'm going physical, do I need anything from the cosmos tab? Is there a physical mastery (I assume so)?
I'm JUST playing handheld for the first time right now and I thought the exact same thing
I'd say one that you'll get access to a bit later is one that allows demons to use items, which is a huge game changer and 100% recommended, haha
What stat do yall usually invest in? I'm been going for Luck and Accuracy stat... is there a generally "better" stat?
Kumbhanda being one of the big scary unique demons running around the parking garage and chasing after you HAS to be a Digital Devil Saga 2 reference, and even if it isn't, I'm going to pretend like it is.
Oh another Q:
I'mt trying to understand the Press Turn system. So right now I have a full party of 4. That means if each of my characters land a crit/weak we get +1 for a total of 8 turns, BUT that's the max right? So if you "do it perfectly" with a team of 4, you can double your turns, but you never get more than that right? You can't just endlessly loop crit/weak to get 'infinite' turns... correct?
Also, lets say: when you press R to Skip on turn 1, that "counts" as one of your Press Turns like hitting a Weak/Crit, meaning now you can only earn +3 for the remainder of that player phase?
... Is all that accurate?
I'mt trying to understand the Press Turn system. So right now I have a full party of 4. That means if each of my characters land a crit/weak we get +1 for a total of 8 turns, BUT that's the max right? So if you "do it perfectly" with a team of 4, you can double your turns, but you never get more than that right? You can't just endlessly loop crit/weak to get 'infinite' turns... correct?
Also, lets say: when you press R to Skip on turn 1, that "counts" as one of your Press Turns like hitting a Weak/Crit, meaning now you can only earn +3 for the remainder of that player phase?
... Is all that accurate?
Yes, that's right. Missing or getting blocked takes away two turn icons, so be careful with that.
I was unsure why the Nahobino was labelled bishounen, because when I think "bishounen" it's Fionn Mac Cumhail. I couldn't think of what to describe the Nahobino...Moe-shounen? Cherry boy? Then I searched the origins of the term, and it literally means
'young man with feminine features, described to be as very beautiful''
so it is in fact, the Nahobino to be a pure form of bishi-ness
'young man with feminine features, described to be as very beautiful''
so it is in fact, the Nahobino to be a pure form of bishi-ness
Man this second boss is kicking my ass. Worked out a full on strategy to target its weaknesses and counter attacks, but it's got so darn much HP that I run out of MP before I'm even a third through the fight. And I can't really afford to be healing MP on everyone because that wastes Nahobino's turns… Really not sure how to get through this one, whatever strategy I choose just won't get me through such a long fight.