Except the things he likes about Pokémon go he obviously wasn't getting from the mainline games or he would have said those instead...
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Shigeru Miyamoto doesn't usually enjoy games made by people other than him; Pokémon GO the first one he enjoyed in a long time
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Except the things he likes about Pokémon go he obviously wasn't getting from the mainline games or he would have said those instead...
A lot of you here are reaalllllllly in bitch eating crackers territory here. None of the things he said is even remotely controversial or worth getting upset about.
Miyamoto wouldn't have been interested in those sorts of games at 28
This is very typical, probably not for everyone but I have had a similar feeling. The more I started getting into game development the more I started comparing what I can do to what others are doing. AAA games are still on a level where it doesn't intersect with anything I think I'm able to, but in smaller "indie games" I can no longer play them without finding a comparison of what the people behind it are like and what they can accomplish.
I understand that kind of jealousy. And I perfectly understand why some game designers entirely stop playing video games once their life becomes making them.
I understand that kind of jealousy. And I perfectly understand why some game designers entirely stop playing video games once their life becomes making them.
Lol how is being honest about the fact he hasn't played and enjoyed many games he hasn't made being a tool? Dude prolly spends 50+ hours a week surrounded by video games, it's understandable that he has a hard time enjoying them in his spare time.
Agreed. Someone like Druckmann for example would get torn to pieces here for saying something like that.
Well. At least he's honest.
I do recall that one:
Some links that may be of interest, on the DKC stuff: one / two / three / four.
Some quotes I've posted in other threads that I can paste here as well, if anyone is interested: "...Mr Yokoi [Game Boy creator] remarked that 'It looked too 3D'. Miyamoto was much quicker to appreciate what we had done and gave his approval..."
This one in particular:
That comment from Miyamoto ("...I try not to see the game [Banjo-Kazooie]. (laughs) If I see it, I may be affected by it...") does remind me me of what Kojima said about Vagrant Story, incidentally, since Kojima has been mentioned.
Also:
Nintendo Life (Dec 2012)
Phil Tossell: "...We had an initial trip to Nintendo's headquarters in Kyoto for about a week [probably in early 2001] where we discussed the changes that would be required to make the game fit in well with the Star Fox universe. Sitting in a room discussing gameplay ideas with Miyamoto-san is certainly one of the highlights of my career and I still have his business card carefully stored away. I also remember going to an Italian restaurant for lunch near to the offices with Miyamoto-san and talking about all sorts of things. I'm not one to get starstruck, but that's probably the one time in my life where I felt a little bit overawed..."
The Making Of: Star Fox Adventures, The Game That Was Once Dinosaur Planet
The maligned GameCube title is now 20 years oldwww.nintendolife.com
Retro Gamer (Dec 2013)
Phil Tossell: "...We did see an early version of Zelda and that was a big influence on Dinosaur Planet, though. Nintendo were often quite envious of us. I got the feeling they thought our games were technically and artistically superior to theirs. Miyamoto would visit regularly and I heard a rumor they redid all of the textures on Zelda after they'd seen our work on Banjo-Kazooie because our game looked better!"
"Nintendo were often quite envious of us", says former Rare staffer
Back in the day, Rare was one of Nintendo’s top studios. The company really came into its own during the N64 era. Rare ended up creating Banjo-Kazooie, Conker’s Bad Fur Day, GoldenEye 007, and plenty of other prominent titles. Perhaps it was due to Rare’s success that Nintendo was a bit jealous...nintendoeverything.com
"I heard a rumor they redid all of the textures on Zelda after they'd seen our work on Banjo-Kazooie because our game looked better!"
Yeah, Miyamoto actually said as much explicitly to Famitsu, in the April 1998 interview pasted above.
The notion that Miyamoto is some all respected infallible being when it comes to discussion here is crazy. In this particular statement he's not saying anything outlandish, there's nothing to get worked up over. Contrast that with threads where he shared his thoughts on the direction that Paper Mario should go and you'll see people are more than ready to call him out.
"Call R&D, I know what we're making next"I refuse to believes he's not secretly a fan of the Vita XD
Then again he has a Switch so he probably replaced it like everyone else T_T
There's at least one firsthand source that was posted in this thread.
"Donkey Kong Country sells more than 8 million copies, setting a record for the best-selling 16-bit game of all time. But despite the title's commercial success, some people are critical."
Peer Schenider (IGN): "It's the epitome of bad game design. You're asked to collect all these different things that really don't do anything for the player. '5000 bananas, yay, what does it get me?' Nothing. It's just to keep you occupied, make you walk through the same levels again."
Steven L. Kent (videogame journalist/author): "I did an interview where I had Tim Stamper, the creator of Donkey Kong Country, and Shigeru Miyamoto at the same time. And Miyamoto was ruthless. Miyamoto said things like 'Donkey Kong Country proves that Americans will buy a game with mediocre gameplay as long as the graphics are excellent.'"
Peer Schneider: "It was boring. Yet, the game garnered reviews in the 9's everywhere, and people bought it. It's baffling."
Steven L. Kent: "And Stamper, y'know just... the quintessential English gentleman, sat there and took it, even though the anger really wasn't meant to be at Stamper. Because Miyamoto carved his territory. He marked his area. He was letting people know that he was the greatest."
That whole thing is such an obvious load of made up bs, lmao
Ageism aside, as usual on this forum, I don't get some takes on this thread implying that Miyamoto has or hasn't played(certain) games made by other people when there isn't anything suggesting that, that he doesn't "usually" enjoy games by other people doesn't mean that nowadays he never plays games made by other people
I think he enjoys games with simple controls and user interfaces, which are very easy to understand. Nintendo games in general are the easiest games to understand and to pick up and play in the console space.
Makes him sound a little arrogant to say this.
That said, his games really are unique, so I can buy that he simply creates the games he himself would want to play.
That said, his games really are unique, so I can buy that he simply creates the games he himself would want to play.