Both GT and Super are about as "fanfiction" as the DBZ movies, as far as I'm concerned. They're all blatant cashgrabs that lazily recycle DBZ tropes.
Both GT and Super are about as "fanfiction" as the DBZ movies, as far as I'm concerned. They're all blatant cashgrabs that lazily recycle DBZ tropes.
Oof, I never touched those because I could feel the terribleness. Fortunately I haven't missed anything.
It's sort of funny that this was actually written by Kurumada and seems like fanfiction, while Saint Seiya spinoffs written by other authors are generally way better than anything Kurumada ever did (Lost Canvas, Episode G).
My vote is Kick-Ass 2. The first film pulled off a miracle with its awful, no-good, very bad source material and was pretty great. The sequel pulls a Karate-Kid by benching the main love interest from 1 and being mostly too edgey and unfunny, like the comicbook ot was based on.
As someone who liked, but didn't love the original and had no idea that there was a sequel, I hate that a sequel even exists. It was such a good standalone thing.
A terrible follow-up to the original science fiction classic and it gets even worse as the series progresses.
All Kingdom Hearts is 'fan fiction', the premise is. All the disney villians team up, Squall and other Final Fantasy charaters have a resistance in town, to fight back.Kingdom Hearts 3.
And quite possibly Kingdom Hearts 2 if I were to go back and replay it now.
Michael Burnham is the worst main character ever to appear in Star Trek. She's the Trek equivalent of that YA protagonist that is a multiple Olympic gold medalist across several sports, has a famous parent that ignores them, is a part-time paleontologist, a prodigy musician, Harvard graduate at 14, and is basically flawless in every way that matters, with their only weaknesses being that they're a little awkward and only have two best friends that worship them at every opportunity. Oh, and those "weaknesses" never actually result in any lasting consequences.
I really thought they were going to take Burnham in an interesting direction when they had her demoted for poor behavior. Nope. The writers decided that it would be better storytelling to have her lecture a grieving crewmate for being too emotional and get promoted to captain all in the span of an episode or two.
Aside from plot premise being completely antithetical to Mayuri's character (her allowing Okabe to give up really didn't sit right with me), the whole plot about
Rise of Skywalker. The whole plot leaked months in advance and so many people, myself included, didn't believe it because it sounded like fan fiction trash.
Turns out that it was!
I've seen plenty of mediocre sequels but I've honestly never seen anything quite like TRoS, a film that not only didn't try to gel nicely with its predecessor but directly repudiated it. It felt like a hijacking.
Yeah, it walks back so many things and feels like a straight up repudiation of The Last Jedi.
-Palpatine has ALL THE SITH living inside him
-New, pointless, flat characters like Power Ranger, Space Horse Rider, and Evil British Officer
Really tho ,you could tell something is up the moment Poe went "Somehow Palpatine returned"(and it really felt like Osscar Issacs rolled his eyes internally saying that) . If your characters ever say "somehow" in regards to a plot point ,you know that plot element is bad
Nah...Super is more fanfic by retconning alot of stuff and adding shit. GT atleast has an interesting story avenue they persued ---- to divisive results.
He tries it and fails miserably, but the technique he does use to win is pretty ridiculous on its own.
That was my first thought. And also that Raoul turns out to be an alcoholic jackass to justify the Christine and Phantom romance is such a classic fanfiction trope.Love Never Dies, the sequel to the Phantom of the Opera. I think the whole thing is driven by the fact that Christine and the Phantom had sex once, and couldn't move on with their lives afterwards, despite the former having a child with Raoul. And that child is actually not Raoul's but the Phantom's, something which is revealed when Christine gets killed by someone I'm not sure I remember. Something like that.
Never mind that the Phantom is a psycho who committed multiple murders in the first show. The sequel was just a pure mercenary cash grab by Lloyd Webber.That was my first thought. And also that Raoul turns out to be an alcoholic jackass to justify the Christine and Phantom romance is such a classic fanfiction trope.
I saw Orphan Black after it was done (or maybe caught up with the series when it was on its last season) and found that it had a decent quality consistency, except for maybe the last season.Killing Eve. Saw one critic call it Orphan Black syndrome where the first season is amazing because it was created in a bubble and then as soon as they start listening to their most vocal fans they start catering everything to them and the quality goes downhill. Killing Eve takes that to the next level. It should have been a limited series in the first place.
I'm slightly concerned Season 3 of Harley Quinn could fall into that trap. They've already said that if they had known the fans reaction they would have put the characters together much sooner.
I've been told those exact words dozens of times, not variation but literally the same copy and paste "subverting audience expectations and rethinking the norms of the series" but when I ask anyone to explain how it did that they don't. I mean it seriously, how did TLJ do that? I'm genuinely curious.I don't expect to convince you, but The Last Jedi is all about subverting audience expectations and rethinking the norms of the series, which is something bad fan fiction very rarely does.
I've been told those exact words dozens of times, not variation but literally the same copy and paste "subverting audience expectations and rethinking the norms of the series" but when I ask anyone to explain how it did that they don't. I mean it seriously, how did TLJ do that? I'm genuinely curious.
Eh. I enjoy Super waaaay more than GT. Yeah, Goku is slightly more stupid but they actually acknowledge his character flaws. The series feels more like Dragon Ball than GT to me. Super starts pretty bad but it gets better as it goes along.Both GT and Super are about as "fanfiction" as the DBZ movies, as far as I'm concerned. They're all blatant cashgrabs that lazily recycle DBZ tropes.
Oh no no no no no.As someone who liked, but didn't love the original and had no idea that there was a sequel, I hate that a sequel even exists. It was such a good standalone thing.
Pretty much everything Dune related after Children of Dune. Heck, even the middle of CoD starts going off the rails when Alia goes nuts and Leto II gets wormed.
Kingdom Hearts __. Suddenly "___" is a crucial component of the KH universe
The Dark Tower books perhaps. Even the first one King is trying to find his writing and also added to it over the years. The second book is more of King's classic style, a complete departure of the first. And the third lacks feeling to me.
Toriyama's, like, king fanfic writer. FFXIII could pass for a FF game fine (despite it being my least favorite, I'll give it THAT one), but everything after is like some otaku writing a fanfic over the obsession of "rose in the darkness", his "goddess" that everything revolves around. I'm surprised Lightning Returns doesn't end withFinal Fantasy XIII-2 feels like this.
It retcons the ending of the first game to introduce a time travel plot line. It also takes Lightning, who was a pretty grounded character with realistic goals and personality into this stoic knight chosen by the Goddess of Death who says a bunch of "poetic" monologues.
It is, but it gets more and more fanfic-y as it goes on. Especially with Nomura adding more and more "concepts" to the world. I'm expecting Nomura to next include The Jaded, negative emotions of a person crystallized by the body's minerals, which is not connected to The Tormented, negative emotions that manifest into cool looking J-pop-looking characters all wrapped in chains.
This is how you know a lot of the sequels are bad, because they ARE handled by the original writers, who for the most part, delivered GREAT, if not, OUTSTANDING first installments, but can't, for the LIFE OF THEM, produce a good sequel. It's like they are capable of coming up with a one-off world and one-off story, and are great at building those worlds as they are creating that first installment, but when it comes to revisiting that world, they go all bungles and just don't know how to handle it. It also seems like they get TOO ambitious for their own good and start tossing in any idea that springs to mind at the second.Remember that Final Fantasy X sequel book? You know, the one where Tidus gets his head blown off.
I always felt the first 4 books were the strongest of the series, with book 4 being the best. Books 5-7 went downhill for me.
Pretty much everything Dune related after Children of Dune. Heck, even the middle of CoD starts going off the rails when Alia goes nuts and Leto II gets wormed.
It's very hard to believe the guy who wrote Sicario 2 also wrote the first one. There's a real gulf in both quality and ideology there.
Rise of Skywalker feels like one of those "spite-fics" where someone does everything possible to undo the last movie instead of building upon it. The sequel trilogy would have been so much stronger if they chose to build on the ideas of TLJ instead of undoing them/pretending they don't exist.
They were really smart to put out Mando season 1 before TROS because man, I would have been so done with Star Wars if TROS was all we got in 2019.
Oh you're not alone. Quality wise I'm in the minority in regards to the Dark Tower.I always felt the first 4 books were the strongest of the series, with book 4 being the best. Books 5-7 went downhill for me.