You're in for an unpleasant shock when you see what wages are like outside of Straya. Especially Canada.
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Seeking advice regarding escaping from Sydney (and possibly even Australia as a whole)
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Stay in Australia and try to find a stable job first. Get some qualifications or education if you don't have those. I wouldn't move out of the parent's place without getting that job first. Australia has too many good benefits, like the DSP you're getting, to move out to another country, even if we are on fire right now. That you could save that amount of money also speaks to something going right for you in Australia.
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Ahh yes. I tend to forget just how wonderful minimum wage is here.
It is very concerning, and I don't think I have the skills to end up in a non-minimum wage job.
I work in the ski industry and thus lots of Aussies and when they find out they're going to be making $13/hour the shock and disappointment is palpable.
Other than that though it's a great place to live, but we get pretty bad fires on the West Coast and in the Interior as well.
The stories about the fire have been upsetting. It's probably easier to see coming living there, but across the world, it's just something I heard of and now am following. BBC has been doing some good coverage of the whole thing.
Hope you get good advice here.
Hope you get good advice here.
You know the shire is just next door in new zealand right? Also sauron is gone so its pretty safe now. Very green and rainy
I think NZ would be your best option, then Canada. It's also cooler and alot greener then Aus. I was located there for 6 months last year and I still cannot get over how stunning that country is. With Brexit on the horizon I don't think UK is a good choice.
I have an acquaintance with Aspergers (similar to Autism, I think?) who moved from NZ to the UK and is doing okay, I think. Has been living there for a couple of years now, but finding work and settling in was definitely a big challenge for him. He also went there with a friend and they already knew a couple of people. So he had a bit of a support network.
Also, finding an initial place to stay without work will be a challenge. I think they lived in hostel dorms for a good while. That will also eat up a good chunk of money and doesn't provide you with a lot of privacy.
However, speaking from personal experience, living in a different country can tough at times, but it is definitely worth it for the experience and personal growth. It will broaden your horizon significantly.
Also, finding an initial place to stay without work will be a challenge. I think they lived in hostel dorms for a good while. That will also eat up a good chunk of money and doesn't provide you with a lot of privacy.
However, speaking from personal experience, living in a different country can tough at times, but it is definitely worth it for the experience and personal growth. It will broaden your horizon significantly.
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Asperger's is pretty much high functioning autism, (The definition is pretty much Autism but without speech delay)
It no longer exists in the DSM, it's just seen as autism now.
In truth, I was diagnosed with Asperger's, but it's now considered autism.
Make moving out of the country a long term goal. Try testing the waters by moving to another city and see if things are better there and you will still be able to save your safety net
I have more specific experience working and studying in the UK.
The UK offers Tier 5 visas for people under 32 for two years. Eventually, you'll need to marry someone or get an employer to sponsor you for a Tier 2 - and the latter won't happen unless you are (postgraduate) degree qualified and working at a big firm. Disability certainly won't transfer, in any case and there are even pretty major issues with transferring retirement funds from the UK to Aus due to legislative restrictions.
As others have noted, if you think wages are low in Aus, you're in for a nasty shock. I loved living in London but the salaries there are terrible across the board and it can be a rough ask for people to have to live like sardines in share houses due to extraordinary living costs (also, it gets really damn cold). Plus, the weak AUD makes it difficult to stretch your savings currently.
I am going to make the blatant assumption that you may not be skilled or degree qualified which makes both your visa situation difficult and your earning capacity overseas limited. I would try moving to a different city in Aus. For all it's faults, I still love my home city of Melbourne - and it's faring a lot better than Sydney in the bushfires.
The UK sucks man. Australia has the sun, sea and bbqs. Why do you want to move to the rain and land of shit tier food?
Depending on your line of work #3 might be easier/harder to achieve.
The foods good (we don't have vegiemite) and there aren't any venomous spiders and if you move to Northern Ireland part of the U.K., you have no snakes either. These are good things.
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I get the feeling a few people aren't reading the OP correctly.
Yeah, I got the idea of moving somewhere colder and rainier from the UK, but that doesn't mean I wanted to move to the UK specifically. Canada would be difficult too. I specified about 3 choices, Either Melbourne, Hobart or somewhere in the NZ.
Yeah, I got the idea of moving somewhere colder and rainier from the UK, but that doesn't mean I wanted to move to the UK specifically. Canada would be difficult too. I specified about 3 choices, Either Melbourne, Hobart or somewhere in the NZ.
Are you sure it wouldn't be a good idea to move out close by to your family I.e the same city at first so you can get used to being in your own with potential support near by? You don't have to do a massive step like moving far away in one go, you can work up to it in smaller steps
I see a lot of eagerness but too little actual planning, OP.
I would suggest you to try and find a remote job. A bit number of startups and under 10 years old companies be working in technology are open or actively looking for remote workers.You don't need to be a coder to get one entry level job in customer service.
I would suggest you to try and find a remote job. A bit number of startups and under 10 years old companies be working in technology are open or actively looking for remote workers.You don't need to be a coder to get one entry level job in customer service.
As an American who three months ago decided blindly to apply for jobs in the Netherlands to see what would happen and is now moving there this month, I wish you the best!
However is does seem as though you should focus on baby steps first by moving out of your parents and just trying living on your own for sometime first. As others have said, it's a big step to move internationally and it can be very difficult without a desired skill set or other support.
I think moving to Melbourne would be a fantastic idea as that would help you gauge whether you like living on your own and you won't have to risk losing disability that way.
However is does seem as though you should focus on baby steps first by moving out of your parents and just trying living on your own for sometime first. As others have said, it's a big step to move internationally and it can be very difficult without a desired skill set or other support.
I think moving to Melbourne would be a fantastic idea as that would help you gauge whether you like living on your own and you won't have to risk losing disability that way.
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Assuming I had a roommate (I'm asking a freind about this) and a somewhat inexpensive place to rent in western Sydney, would my disability pension alone be able to sustain me? This is assuming a worst case scenario in trying to find a job.
I don't know how much you get for your DSP but generally speaking no. The DSP alone is generally not sufficient for long term. Short term definitely helps. Don't forget to apply for rent assistance and anything else you can get such as transition to work benefits etc. The NDIS may also offer some funding for self care or core activities.
My concern is if you try to take on too many things at once. If you aren't familiar with living out by yourself and handling household responsibilities you should prioritise that and maybe do it at home. Let your folks know you need to learn independence. Moving out is more than paying for food, rent and utilities. Replenishing household supplies and household chores are easily taken for granted. It all adds up financially and mentally in terms of fatigue and time.
Eh? Some of the advice in here is really weird. Telling someone who's autistic to just pack up and leave his family? What?
If you want to move just move within Australia. This will pass. You'll be safe as long as you're not living in the outback. Let's not pretend that Australia isn't still one of the best places in the world to live.
Every place in the world has its problems.
If you want to move just move within Australia. This will pass. You'll be safe as long as you're not living in the outback. Let's not pretend that Australia isn't still one of the best places in the world to live.
Every place in the world has its problems.
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It's not the present here that worries me (well, the apocalyptic fires aside), it's the future.
We're fine at the moment man. Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. If the worst comes to the worst Australia is a massive place. Here in West Melbourne it's a clear, lovely day. Don't let the media scare you.
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The general response seems to be "It's not really doable unless you get a stable well paying job"
I'm probably gonna die here.
I'm probably gonna die here.
Can't recommend the UK, especially not with the current political climate. Not only that but we're not exactly the most caring to people who need some additional support right now, never mind if you've just moved here.
Best of luck with whatever you do OP
Best of luck with whatever you do OP
I'm Tasmanian so I'll give a bit of info living from my end.
Hobart is dry, technically but, we run into no real shortage of water in the state really. Hobart is in Stage 1 water restrictions right now, for example, and that made a big deal on the news. I live further north, where it's wetter still, and the east and west coasts are usually very wet.
The biggest problem you're going to find with Hobart is housing. There is a housing crisis in Hobart, and finding an affordable place to live will be incredibly hard. In April, Hobart was more expensive to rent in than Melbourne. I'd look at places to live outside the capital, in Launceston, Devonport or Burnie, for the major cities (or the little towns in between). There's a lot of seasonal fruit-picking jobs up the north-west coast for casual work, but from my friends chatter about Launceston it's tougher for casual work (Disclaimer, they're not the most go-getting of people)
The cost of living is much lower here. I also receive disability, and I was able to move out into a small apartment solo in Launceston and live comfortably before I needed to move back home. It's cheaper up on the north west coast still, and then you have the really isolated old mining towns like Queenstown where you can literally purchase a house for under $100k.
Hobart is dry, technically but, we run into no real shortage of water in the state really. Hobart is in Stage 1 water restrictions right now, for example, and that made a big deal on the news. I live further north, where it's wetter still, and the east and west coasts are usually very wet.
The biggest problem you're going to find with Hobart is housing. There is a housing crisis in Hobart, and finding an affordable place to live will be incredibly hard. In April, Hobart was more expensive to rent in than Melbourne. I'd look at places to live outside the capital, in Launceston, Devonport or Burnie, for the major cities (or the little towns in between). There's a lot of seasonal fruit-picking jobs up the north-west coast for casual work, but from my friends chatter about Launceston it's tougher for casual work (Disclaimer, they're not the most go-getting of people)
The cost of living is much lower here. I also receive disability, and I was able to move out into a small apartment solo in Launceston and live comfortably before I needed to move back home. It's cheaper up on the north west coast still, and then you have the really isolated old mining towns like Queenstown where you can literally purchase a house for under $100k.
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Thank you.
When it comes down to what I want, I do currently believe that Tassie might be my most viable bet.
My panic aside, what I think I should do now is;
Get a job here in Sydney with some stability (Honestly, this will be the most difficult part)
Ask a friend of mine if they'd like to rent a house with me, and take the opportunity to learn independence
Take a short holiday to Tas to sort of scope the place out and see if I like it
Search for a Job there
Then maybe move into a sharehouse there (Or if I'm lucky, maybe I can convince a friend to go with me), then my own place if eventually possible.
A good idea! My parents took a trip down to Tassie just as an anniversary thing, but immediately on getting back to Canberra sold up and moved down.
From your description of the place you'd like to be, I'd probably recommend the North West Coast (Burnie to Devonport and its surrounds). You're not too far away from one of the 'major' cities of the state should you need its services (Launceston is about 1 1/2hr drive from Devonport, a bit over 2hrs from Burnie), it's cheaper than Launceston and Hobart to live, and it's more the climate you're looking for. If you want to live closer to a big city though, I'd recommend Launceston over Hobart, and for a cheap place to live that is 30min out of Launceston, look at Georgetown.
I don't think your first move should be straight to another country, unless you were to do it along with some kind of schooling/a situation where you would easily build up a new social network. Move out of your parent's place but stay close by in Sydney first, then slowly build your way up to a bigger move.
#1 Don't try to anchor yourself to someone. If you want to do something drastic you need to learn to be on your own. Using close friends & family when your in a time of need is reassuring but don't make them your crutch.
#2 You very much need to start spending time on learning a trade/skill that will be of use for immigration
#3 If you're going to move, you're best to do it young as you'll be in a more flexible state to roll with what ever you're dealt with.
I moved from living with my parents in southern california to living in montreal canada when I was 19. I spent all my free time in high school learning how to program and luckily through a connection I was able to get a job for a studio in montreal (sure it was kid games but gave me a start). I've now been in Canada for 18 years. Personally I'd try with going to NZ for 6 months and see how things shake. It might be the easiest way to see how things will work out for you.
#2 You very much need to start spending time on learning a trade/skill that will be of use for immigration
#3 If you're going to move, you're best to do it young as you'll be in a more flexible state to roll with what ever you're dealt with.
I moved from living with my parents in southern california to living in montreal canada when I was 19. I spent all my free time in high school learning how to program and luckily through a connection I was able to get a job for a studio in montreal (sure it was kid games but gave me a start). I've now been in Canada for 18 years. Personally I'd try with going to NZ for 6 months and see how things shake. It might be the easiest way to see how things will work out for you.
i think other than britons, australians are the most common immigrant i meet here in germany. i mean our culture is very different from australia, so i am not sure what the main appeal is since it's also a different language (why i'd think australians would immigrate to an english-speaking country), nonetheless, many are here. there's a lot of work opportunity in germany, so the only hurdle is learning the language, but from what i hear from australians, the actual process of immigrating here is very simple and they did not need a visa to enter the country and stay a few months either, they applied for it once they moved here already. not sure if it's true but that's what 1 australian told me