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sciencedirect.com: Case study - Following THC ingestion, a patient presented to emergency department with symptoms similar to an acute stroke
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This makes me remember an article I read a few weeks ago.
Frequent marijuana use could literally change a person's heart
The new study, which evaluated the health of 3,407 people in the United Kingdom, suggests a link between regularly using marijuana — defined as daily or weekly use within the past five years — and changes to the heart's structure and functions. It was published Wednesday in the journal JACC Cardiovascular Imaging.
Researchers observed that the study participants who used cannabis regularly had larger left ventricles and showed early signs of impaired heart function.
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The study's authors stress that the findings are not conclusive. The study has limitations — most of the participants were white, the study included a small number of regular cannabis users, and the researchers relied on participants' self-reporting of a drug that is currently illegal in the United Kingdom.
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Frequent marijuana use could literally change a person's heart
The new study, which evaluated the health of 3,407 people in the United Kingdom, suggests a link between regularly using marijuana — defined as daily or weekly use within the past five years — and changes to the heart's structure and functions. It was published Wednesday in the journal JACC Cardiovascular Imaging.
Researchers observed that the study participants who used cannabis regularly had larger left ventricles and showed early signs of impaired heart function.
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The study's authors stress that the findings are not conclusive. The study has limitations — most of the participants were white, the study included a small number of regular cannabis users, and the researchers relied on participants' self-reporting of a drug that is currently illegal in the United Kingdom.
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I'm going to start calling my panic attacks acute heart attack presentation.
Like I went to the hospital when I was 18 because I felt exactly like this and it was a panic attack. Years of therapy is the only way I'm able to control anxiety from bodily sensations and I still panic sometimes. The shit is very potent to the point it's not even enjoyable now days but this doesn't sound like a stroke and fear-mongering at worst, clickbait at best.
Like I went to the hospital when I was 18 because I felt exactly like this and it was a panic attack. Years of therapy is the only way I'm able to control anxiety from bodily sensations and I still panic sometimes. The shit is very potent to the point it's not even enjoyable now days but this doesn't sound like a stroke and fear-mongering at worst, clickbait at best.
It's more of a PSA to other doctors. Like, "Hey this one time a lady came in super high and it looked a lot like a stroke. Just letting other doctors know that what may appear like a stroke can just be acute THC effects via ingestion."
People are touchy about their magical cure all, and don't want their to be any risks associated with it.
This could be physiological, or how their body processes the THC.
I smoke a blunt every now and then and enjoy it very much, but I ain't pretending it's good for me. Cannabis is known to cause cognitive impairment, in both acute and long term cases. Just because in small doses it's not harmful, or because some people need it for certain treatments, does not mean it cannot be dangerous. That some people pretend there are no risks associated with cannabis only harms its perception.
It's always interesting to me that after a few posts in a thread, we always have to get someone who can see through it all and tell us everyone's hidden motivations without actually knowing much more about those people. And for good measure, we get a dose of pseudoscience.
Lmao what the fuck. Might as well say "disregard everything in this article".
I think it's more that misinformation, targeted and accidental, for this specific compound has led for the last century to actual imprisonment of countless lives. Currently. I guess someone could count them.
Posting one-off articles should be scrutinized. And if it's true that OP really has a history of doing that, it should be treated the same way as if he was posting Fox News slant articles and then going, "Shucks, guys, who knew I'd get personal attacks from posting political articles I found! I just wanted conversation!"
i think there are definitely too many people who push the 'no risks, it's actually beneficial' and it's easy to filter through but this is not that. if you look at any factor of this situation logically or objectively, from either experience or the general view that this happening to one person, especially a senior who unknowingly ingested potent THC in one of its stronger forms, and hearing this diagnosis from one doctor, is not indicative of anything with the general population. This sounds like a panic attack, they express themselves in very bizarre ways sometimes.
This has been an issue since the old forum and I understand it's hard to moderate but it's annoying. Blocking someone is the ultimate way to go if there's a pattern of posting threads seeking reaction, imo. But yes I agree it should be scrutinized. Literally everything posted here can, will, or should be.
Remember that story about the cop who ate an edible than called the police saying he was dying. I don't know if I would word that story as "TCH caused symptoms similar to death". It would be misleading is all I'm saying.
Weed is a hallucinogen at high enough doses. Most sane people just don't consume enough to make it happen :P
So to summarize, an elderly woman got really high, and a hospital made an incorrect initial diagnosis, and she recovered just fine. The purpose of this study seems to be to inform doctors of additional symptoms so that they can make a proper diagnosis in future cases.
Somewhat refreshingly, the Cannabis Prohibition Defense Force here is very small if not almost entirely non-existent.
Likely because there is still not one single legitimate reason for cannabis possession/use to be outlawed
Somewhat refreshingly, the Cannabis Prohibition Defense Force here is very small if not almost entirely non-existent.
Likely because there is still not one single legitimate reason for cannabis possession/use to be outlawed
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Clearly a "fox news" poster with a bias of posting interesting news...
It's easy enough to check a person's posting history before attacking them for their posting history.
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I once smoked a really good joint.... Like 5 minutes later I thought I could not breathe, I was panicking. My friends were worried, but then I said -nah I'm fine- and sat down.
They all laughed.
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I've had STRONG hallucinations on weed before. I say this as someone who has done shrooms, ayahuasca and etc. There are some rare sativa strains that can take you places.
Way back before edibles were edibles in 1993 one could cop pot brownies from a "candle store" across the street from a biker club in the Lower East Side in NYC. This was my first experience with an edible. Me and my friend each copped one before class as our first class that day was not until 1 PM. For some reason I very much remember it was a Thursday. So of course we decided we would eat the whole brownie before school, and yeah, we never made it to school and we were basically paralyzed in his dorm room for about 4 hours. Shit was terrifying and yet eventually became hilarious at the same time.
So yeah, not surprised is all I am saying. If you overdue it on edibles, it is a much different experience than simply just smoking.
So yeah, not surprised is all I am saying. If you overdue it on edibles, it is a much different experience than simply just smoking.
I dunno, I've taken some pretty astronomical doses and never hallucinated. "Weed makes you hallucinate" always comes off as some dubious scaremongering prohibition justification bullshit.
The strongest visual hallucination I've ever had was on weed. My friends and I had had this batch before, and another friend smoked it with me during this time, but for whatever reason after I smoked it this one time with said friend I went blind for about two minutes, and then my vision came back but everything was black and purple and was vibrating (this lasted another minute or so.) I've never experienced anything like it before or after and I've had some of the world's strongest hallucinogens known to man. I can't explain why it happened but it was wild. This was over ten years ago and friend and I smoked in the parking lot of an amusement park before getting on the tram that takes you to the front gates. I went blind on the tram, and had to lean over to my friend and tell her that we had to stay on because I was blind. She was like, what? LOL.
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Sounds like.. Identifying edibles. Yep, its edibles.
i wonder if one of her symptoms was time going by really, really, really, really, slow.
i wonder if one of her symptoms was time going by really, really, really, really, slow.
Hahaha my immediate first thought. I rely on OP to give Era regular updates on Maryland and Bmore.
I'd panic if I felt any effects of anything out of nowhere. Coffee and alcohol included.
Oh God that's funny! Like a scene in a comedy lol. Did you smoke it again after that? Same result?
Yeah, it's completely fucked to dose someone against their will. It's also illegal. You can get hit with felony charges for it. I love edibles and have one almost every single evening, so I'm pretty relaxed towards them. I would never consider giving one to someone without giving them ample warning about what they were going to go through. Even when I'm sharing with friends who are regular smokers, I detail what sort of effects the batch has and how long it typically lasts.
Yes I smoked it additional times but never had anything like that experience happen again - it's a mystery as to why it hit me so hard that particular time.
Damn. And no tolerance break? Good way to enjoy an amusement park.
No tolerance break; I use to smoke up like a champ back then until I hit 25 (I'm 36 now.) At some point right around 25 I could no longer just enjoy getting stoned out of my mind, now if I take more than just a little bit I wind up paranoid and over thinking everything.
lol we took my dad after he got "surprised hit" by edibles and he thought he was having a heart attack. Edibles are fucking whack if you dont know what you're getting into (and worse if no one freaking tells you about it, so that was our major upset that night).
I guess I've got no choice but do a practical study about it to see for myself then. 😇
Cannabis use can be a risky proposition for individuals with heart disease. It can cause huge spikes in blood pressure that can make people feel as if they're having a heart attack or stroke, which can also exacerbate anxieties and lead to panic attacks. This is why stories like this typically involve middle aged or elderly individuals being hospitalized after use. Hypertensive crisis is no joke and can result in damage to blood vessels and increase one's chance of stroke. Cannabis is perfectly fine for healthy individuals, but let's not dismiss the potential for horrific distress and serious health risks it poses for individuals with preexisting medical conditions like heart disease, which is incredibly common.
Tbh the worst I've ever felt on any drug was having too much concentrated thc in a gummy or oil. I could literally smoke all day and never feel like I just woke up and police choppers were after me because I had done something terrible and couldn't remember lol I mea it wasn't all bad I fought this anthropomorphic version of my anxiety on my ceiling but still...it was too weird.
Im not sure if I have a problem with sativa? At least stores can help now whereas before legalization you were at whoever got the pot's mercy.
Im not sure if I have a problem with sativa? At least stores can help now whereas before legalization you were at whoever got the pot's mercy.
My mom has high-blood pressure issues and my dad's parents had their first strokes in their 30s I think, so that's another reason I don't go by chronic the hemp-hog around here
The day I overdid it with edibles was one of the worst times of my life.
First, automatic breathing stopped working. It just shut down. So I had to resort to breathing manually for like 3 hours. And sometimes I would forget to breathe and I remember thinking, "breathe ItIsOkBro, breathe or you're gonna die!" And each breathe was getting harder to take.
Second, my heart was beating so damn fast and irregularly. In fact I recall feeling my heartbeat every time I breathed, if that makes sense. I also remember thinking, "there's no way someone with a pre-existing heart condition could survive this."
Also, the slowed speech, feeling weak...yes, I do believe I fell over a few times. Actually, this particular article kind of strains believability that these doctors would not even consider that she was having a bad trip and are all shockedpikachu.jpg after she said she had edibles. Nothing here should be of any surprise to someone who's had or seen a bad experience.
I finally passed out against my will to a kaleidoscope of colors. Anywho, I'm not fear mongering, obviously I was gonna be fine regardless of what I was thinking, and most of this wasn't caused by the weed but the induced panic attack and anxiety as a result. Now I know my limits and stay within it.
First, automatic breathing stopped working. It just shut down. So I had to resort to breathing manually for like 3 hours. And sometimes I would forget to breathe and I remember thinking, "breathe ItIsOkBro, breathe or you're gonna die!" And each breathe was getting harder to take.
Second, my heart was beating so damn fast and irregularly. In fact I recall feeling my heartbeat every time I breathed, if that makes sense. I also remember thinking, "there's no way someone with a pre-existing heart condition could survive this."
Also, the slowed speech, feeling weak...yes, I do believe I fell over a few times. Actually, this particular article kind of strains believability that these doctors would not even consider that she was having a bad trip and are all shockedpikachu.jpg after she said she had edibles. Nothing here should be of any surprise to someone who's had or seen a bad experience.
I finally passed out against my will to a kaleidoscope of colors. Anywho, I'm not fear mongering, obviously I was gonna be fine regardless of what I was thinking, and most of this wasn't caused by the weed but the induced panic attack and anxiety as a result. Now I know my limits and stay within it.