romhacking.net rejects Pokémon Crystal mod for being "too political" (Update: Accepted, staff member suspended indefinitely) [See Threadmarks]
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I like how the site has tens of thousands of ROM hacks from the last two decades that are just Super Mario Bros with pot leafs replacing the mushrooms or "Super Butt Bros" where Mario is literally replaced with a single frame sprite of a butt.
This is where they draw the line though.
This is where they draw the line though.
Likely Ben Franklin, honestly. Man was known to throw some wild parties.
Yeah, Romhacking.net already has similar stuff for other games, so I'm inclined to believe this is a lone shitter.
Right? there's that Black 2/White 2 mod where you replaced a certain trainer so that way it could match the chosen gender of your character. Those Battle Ferris Wheels interactions had romantic connotations attached to them
Not to mention many hacks that alter the playable characters in many games like:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3402/
or add LGBT characters like:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2602/
maybe the staff member is from saudi arabia or china where there is no such thing as public discourse where such politics can be openly discussed.
Or maybe Romhacking.net is full of shit
Response on discord
-edit- yeah as someone said I'm definitely remembering where I got the mod from wrong. Can't even find it anywhere anymore. Whoops.
Original post: Aight so I can understand a company wanting to take a very neutral political stance, however in middle school I was able to download some mario 3 mod called Super Bisexual Bros which included a giant ejaculating dick on the title screen. If something like that gets though which looking back can totally be argued as bigoted or at the very least insensitive, the idea this can't is asinine and actually pretty Homophobic.
Original post: Aight so I can understand a company wanting to take a very neutral political stance, however in middle school I was able to download some mario 3 mod called Super Bisexual Bros which included a giant ejaculating dick on the title screen. If something like that gets though which looking back can totally be argued as bigoted or at the very least insensitive, the idea this can't is asinine and actually pretty Homophobic.
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Last time i checked Romhacking doesn't allow adult content.
He isn't familiar with that nonsense but rejected a benign pan hack on the basis of "SJWs"? Really?
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.
Seriously. Maybe they meant he doesn't hang out in parts of the internet where the term SJW results in immidate raised eyebrows.
Odd how people that aren't familiar with stuff, can repeat it word for word.
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.
Yeah. It's not good and it's a bit too difficult to claim ignorance here, not gonna lie.
But at the same time, please remember this site is by multiple people and that he did this on his own, without going by anyone else, and was dealt with for it.
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.
At this point I'm thinking they were just ignorant/insensitive rather than hateful, to be honest
Really happy I'm blocked by that DDSTrans guy but considering they're from Alabama and the purported staff member that rejected it isn't American, it's probably not them.
SJW is a common word used by people who aren't in the know and aren't familiar with it as an alt-right term...but it was totally used in that context in the original rejection.
SJW is a common word used by people who aren't in the know and aren't familiar with it as an alt-right term...but it was totally used in that context in the original rejection.
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.
So are they going to accept the hack now and we can all move on? Or are they gonna still deny it for reasons?
That's... a good point. I was about to say "ah well, maybe there was just an asshole on the team and the rest of them weren't aware that this problem would ome up", but then wait, it's not that guy?
There's something odd about the phrasing of the message. Maybe they think of SJW in a positive way and they meant it would attract negative attention towards them? It's honestly the only way the "they don't understand the nuances" makes sense.
Not to mention his Twitter says resetera is "cancer". Yeah, I'm sure he doesn't post on 4chan, /pol, or some other shithole of the internet. Certainly.
Looks like it'll be reaccepted if it is resubmitted. I can't tell you much more than that, because this still isn't a direct apology from the offender, just what the community staff was able to cobble together for the apology short term.
As Discoalucard pointed out, that doesn't even seem to be that person. So there's one non-American person on the team who doesn't want attention from SJWs and another one from Alabama who thinks Resetera is cancer.
The same shit fucking republicans argue against: lgbtq people dignity and human rights.
Must be remembering where I got the mod from wrong, then. Whoopsie I derped.
There's nothing wrong with using NPC in a video game context to refer to a non-player character. I didn't even know it had other meanings until now.
I'm a dude who detests political nonsense where it doesn't need to be (in the sense that no I don't want random IRL events or out of place stuff shoved in my face when I'm trying to relax and escape them for the sake of my anxiety when playing a game, outside of a game world's own politics) but the statement they made was more political than the mod itself. (which had literally nothing political in meaning at all and therefore had no reason to be blocked and the fact they blocked it speaks volumes about their character) RHN staff are being really dumb by using that stupid label in an unironic fashion as it just makes them easy to associate with the hate group crowd and honestly the apology just makes it dumber and not something I'd take seriously.
For the record the move attract being allowed on everything is also a gamebreaker and a fun way to made the game more difficult/broken and anyone with any knowledge of Pokemon would know that so I seriously doubt this mod had no knowledge of the move's effect. He definitely knew what it was, had a hissy fit and denied it for an absurd reason when there was nothing wrong with the hack.
For the record the move attract being allowed on everything is also a gamebreaker and a fun way to made the game more difficult/broken and anyone with any knowledge of Pokemon would know that so I seriously doubt this mod had no knowledge of the move's effect. He definitely knew what it was, had a hissy fit and denied it for an absurd reason when there was nothing wrong with the hack.
Oh, you're right. The staff is listed elsewhere on the site. Nothing damning there that I can see though.
http://www.romhacking.net/about
I remember how jarring his rewrites were in previous Dynamic-Designs projects, such as FEDA. It made me cautious of the projects where he was the editor but... I had no idea it got to this level.
It's a shame because the work and time required to create a translation patch that functions without glitching out is absolutely immense.
I got all worried when I saw the title because I love romhacking.net. I never really thought about the people behind it; I just assume people who support and do things I like (like ROM hacking!) are cool, which is stupid I guess. Glad to see the response and that it's not what they're about (hopefully).
Yet he somehow knew to use it in reference to homesuality, implying that he knew exactly what its context was.
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.
They didn't give him a good talking to at all, they bought everything he gave them.
If they just wanted to protect their staff member, they are doing a really poor job of it. An initial response that just apologized, said that the decision was not in accordance with the site's values, and that they would be reviewing their approval process to prevent this in the future would have ended this whole thing.
Here's what they had to say for their apology statement on Discord.
Again, not quite the norm for them and they are sorry. Doesn't look like it'll be repeated again.