Unless you were playing weeks prior to launch, the version of RDR2 you experienced still has that same "really good" implementation of AO.
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Rockstar Downgrades Red Dead Redemption 2 Graphics In patch 1.03
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It's just a different time of day!
Or... no wait. It was an artistic decision!
I made this comment awhile back when we talked about the DF thread on it's graphics. I asked what kind of sorcery did they use to pull that off as no other implementation was good enough to run that AO during a dynamic time of day. You can observe all the games before it.. GoW, H:ZD, TR, you name it. None could do AO quite like R*. In short, it was probably done on purpose for whatever logical reason. Let's just accept it like we did Witcher 3.
4K output but rendered at 1080p is fine, 1080p on a 4K TV will be blurry.
Nope, not a bug, AO got downgraded since patch 1.03 for performanc purpose.
Other downgrades has been noted like lower texture resolution/shadows and much more pop-in with recent updates (I started noticing huge pop-in/model changes with 1.06, then stopped playing cause I finished the game).
The downgrades at this point are mainly for let the Online runs better.
So yeah, that's it. Sadly Digital Foundry (which has done videos on the better version - 1.02 -) or other sites have to much stuff to do to investigate this further.
Wow that sucks. I was planning on buying this on physical later on. Will I miss out anything by not upgrading at all and leaving it at 1.0?
You have better graphic but worse framerate and quite a lot of bugs.
At this point, if you really care about the changes, you can wait the PC version or an eventual PS5/X2 patched version.
For my taste I would prefer to play the patched version, I actually started playing by 1.03 and didn't know about the downgrade and the graphic is great anyway.
I only sufferend the pop-in on later patches, don't know how the game is now... it's a tricky situation sadly, typical R*.
If you return to 1.0 you will have the infamous camp glitch with missing characters.
From the pics in OP? Do you at least notice the lighting color is different?
Just a little bit, and because I know what I'm looking for. Otherwise I would've noticed nothing.
Guess I'll just wait then, I don't have any urge to play it.
Lower texture and shadows seem a news to me. I surely noticed lighting paired back at the night (but of course performance was terrible before) but otherwise I don't see anything downgraded outside the lighting.
Don't know that, ppl at the camp are way more important to RDR2 experience then better AO or pop-in honestly.
Talking with ppl at camp and watch the various debates of the crew is an huge part of the game, it was for me at least.
Having the risk of lose part of it cause they just doesn't spawn isn't a great perspective.
Other than that on 1.0 you have beard bug (doesn't grown or disappear) and other stuff that break immersion.
I think I'd rather have that than take gfx. Or maybe I'll just wait for the PC version.
It's back with the latest update.
Full patch notes: https://support.rockstargames.com/a...do-patchnotes-05142019&utm_content=patchnotes
Thanks, I was struggling too.
Which one am I meant to be outraged by?
Edit, didn't realise how old this thread was. Don't mind me.
"A new HDR Calibration menu has been added. Players can now switch between the existing 'Cinematic HDR' and new 'Game HDR' styles, and a new option has been added to allow manual adjustment of Peak Brightness values for different displays"
Wut? Game HDR?
They fixed HDR, maybe?
That would be huge for me
Wut? Game HDR?
They fixed HDR, maybe?
That would be huge for me
The dark one is the original
The downgrade lost ambiental occlusion
It doesn't seem like a very expensive implementation of AO, so I'm surprised that they removed it. It seems like the color grading took a hit as well.
Wow man that feels pretty significant going off this photo at least. Hopefully this was done for good reason. Anyone know if this affects both PS4 and Xbox one versions? Not really seeing if this affects both Xbox one and PS4 versions but i'm assuming so.
In a full 1080p I notice the "blurriness" only in the grass but the general IQ sharpness is not that different to Far Cry 5 from my personal experience (having both). But like I said in a 1080p screen the blurriness it's not exactly like per like to a full 4k TV and I guess 1920x2160p shouldn't be blurried in a downsampled imagine. Anyway I ask to an insider which posted a thread about the last patch. He didn't cared even to reply to me so it's how R cares of such issue on Pro.
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Nice, Rockstar are generally pretty good when it comes to this stuff. I remember GTAV on PS4 (and maybe XB1?) had a missing graphical effect that they eventually put right.
Look at the legs and arms of the people in the left, and the edges at the bottom of the counter, also at the stairs. The ambient occlusion, which adds darker shadows to increase the depth of the image, are missing completely. Think of indirect shadow casting: when you stand in front of a counter, the material/counter is darker even when you don't cast an explicit shadow (like you would when someone would use a flashlight in your direction), because less light, which bounces around in a room, reach that place. Ambient occlusions 'fakes' this effect (because light is not really bouncing off surfaces here, that's what ray tracing is for) but it does the job pretty good and adds to a more believable scene. So the version with no shadows/AO at edges is the patched/worse version, while the other one was v1.0.
I don't have FC5 so I can't compare. Unfortunately I notice the blurriness not only grass but on all edges and even textures, which is a shame. I guess I wait for the PC version then.
Thank God. And props to them for being honest about the downgrade.
Please don't do that again.
Like I said I have a 1080p TV so it's hard to have the same blurriness of a 4k TV.