No because he literally says "I never lied to you" before launching into the retcon :P
I don't remember this but I don't doubt it lmao
No because he literally says "I never lied to you" before launching into the retcon :P
Kylo wasn't lying and the person who revealed the information to the audience was Rey. The Rey Palpatine twist is "MARTHA" level of bad writing.So Kylo can't lie? Oh how about when he lied about what happened at the temple with Luke
But he clearly did lol he is an unreliable narrator.No because he literally says "I never lied to you" before launching into the retcon :P
To make her seem small and seduce her to the dark side. after she saw that she can conjure lightning he had no choice but to break it to her.Its not that he can't lie, its why the hell is he lying? What did he achieve by telling Rey she was nothing and then tell her later oopsies you're actually a Palpatine forget what I said earlier.
I'm not saying there aren't reasons that he would do that, as Terrio and JJ have given us many explanations. Its just that the reasons behind Kylo doing so are poor and lazy writing that gives way to no unique or meaningful character development.
Yes he was, he made it seem like Luke was attacking him with the lightsaber, how tf would Rey know? It's not bad writing just because you disagree with it.Kylo wasn't lying and the person who revealed the information to the audience was Rey. The Rey Palpatine twist is "MARTHA" level of bad writing.
Yeah, it's possible he's protecting his ass but it's more probable he just had a good time honestly.people are so thirsty to project their fanboy war onto other people.
The movie is almost opposite to what RJ wanted for the series, but eh maybe he was just watching his friends on the movie screen and turned his brain off
I will look for his opinion on it in 15-20 years when everyone has finally moved on
But he clearly did lol he is an unreliable narrator.
To make her seem small and seduce her to the dark side. after she saw that she can conjure lightning he had no choice but to break it to her.
He made it seem like Luke was attacking him with the lightsaber because that's exactly what happened from his perspective. That is not lying. Even Luke's true telling of the story talks about what he saw once he realized that Ben was awake. Someone scared shitless and reacting in what they thought was self defense.Yes he was, he made it seem like Luke was attacking him with the lightsaber, how tf would Rey know? It's not bad writing just because you disagree with it.
Exactly.He made it seem like Luke was attacking him with the lightsaber because that's exactly what happened from his perspective. That is not lying. Even Luke's true telling of the story talks about what he saw once he realized that Ben was awake. Someone scared shitless and reacting in what they thought was self defense.
There is a very big difference between attacking someone and standing right next to them, it's not a point of perspective type of thing, he lied.He made it seem like Luke was attacking him with the lightsaber because that's exactly what happened from his perspective. That is not lying. Even Luke's true telling of the story talks about what he saw once he realized that Ben was awake. Someone scared shitless and reacting in what they thought was self defense.
Rian confirmed in the commentary that Kylo told the truth from his perspective.There is a very big difference between attacking someone and standing right next to them, it's not a point of perspective type of thing, he lied.
But later said that he also twisted the truth a bit by his anger to Luke, they were both not 100%.Rian confirmed in the commentary that Kylo told the truth from his perspective.
Even then he will never shit on TROS. Its called being a professional.
See Lord and Miller statements after they got booted from SOLO.
I'm genuinely unsure if I've ever heard Rian complain about anything in general? Like, besides toxic bad people, he seems to enjoy even bad movies (or at least appreciate them for what they are instead of mocking the talent involved).
Also, unrelated, but dude wore Porg cuff links to the Oscars.
There is a very big difference between attacking someone and standing right next to them, it's not a point of perspective type of thing, he lied.
This is not equivalent to lying, Kylo 100% interpreted the events as Luke attacking him in his sleep and that led to his radicalization into the first order.But later said that he also twisted the truth a bit by his anger to Luke, they were both not 100%.
He didn't lie about his experience but he lied about how it happened, it's a fact that Luke didn't attack him so call it what you want.This is not equivalent to lying, Kylo 100% interpreted the events as Luke attacking him in his sleep and that led to his radicalization into the first order.
'They were filthy drunk traders, who sold you off for drinking money.' That works fine?Kylo saw her parents in her memories and he didn't know that they were Palpatines and he assumed that they were abandoning her. He never lied to her in TLJ. It works perfectly fine.
Nothing that Kylo would have seen in Rey's past would have indicated that they were Palpatines or that they were killed trying to hide her.'They were filthy drunk traders, who sold you off for drinking money.' That works fine?
That really isn't a lie. If someone stood over you with an armed gun while you were sleeping and you had no idea of their intentions there's no meaningful difference between saying and rightfully believing they were going to shoot you and have saying the stood over you with a armed weapon pointing at you while you slept.There is a very big difference between attacking someone and standing right next to them, it's not a point of perspective type of thing, he lied.
Luke was literally standing over him with an activated lightsaber. Like, the sound of the saber being activated is what woke Kylo up.He didn't lie about his experience but he lied about how it happened, it's a fact that Luke didn't attack him so call it what you want.
Sure, but it's quite odd that it does indicate that they sold her off for drinking money when that never happened. It's a bit of an odd story this way.Nothing that Kylo would have seen in Rey's past would have indicated that they were Palpatines or that they were killed trying to hide her.
There is a very big difference between attacking someone and standing right next to them, it's not a point of perspective type of thing, he lied.
Luke👏never 👏intended👏to 👏kill👏KyloLuke was literally standing over him with an activated lightsaber. Like, the sound of the saber being activated is what woke Kylo up.
It absolutely seemed that way to Ben though and it's pretty easy to see why.
Not saying that it didn't appear that way to him but like Rian said he twisted the truth, and so did Luke at first.It absolutely seemed that way to Ben though and it's pretty easy to see why.
CHARACTER PERSPECTIVE. Have you ever seen the film this method of having flashbacks stylized from the perspective of the character is a direct reference to?
The next time a classic IP needs someone to completely fuck it up, JJ will be there. Like the tide, he's never gone for long.
Its not that he can't lie, its why the hell is he lying? What did he achieve by telling Rey she was nothing and then tell her later oopsies you're actually a Palpatine forget what I said earlier.
I'm not saying there aren't reasons that he would do that, as Terrio and JJ have given us many explanations. Its just that the reasons behind Kylo doing so are poor and lazy writing that gives way to no unique or meaningful character development.
Rather shit on his critics than acknowledge the sequel to his movie was balls. What a class act, such a good manWhat a nice guy.
Lying through his teeth like that. A good friend.
Rather shit on his critics than acknowledge the sequel to his movie was balls. What a class act, such a good man
Yeah.....that's not how this works. He isn't gonna compromise his future just so that fanboys on the net can celebrate him got 18h and then move on.Oh please. The guy probably made enough in residuals from TLJ and Knives Out that his family is set for life.
I don't want to single out RJ. This is something that bugs me across the entire industry.
Good god why is Star Wars discourse so fucking awful.Rather shit on his critics than acknowledge the sequel to his movie was balls. What a class act, such a good man
Pretty funny seeing people projecting their own opinion not Rian and can't believe he could possibly actually like itOr maybe... he actually did enjoy the movie. Crazy, I know. Not everyone is a frothing at the mouth negative Nancy just itching to bitch and moan about something.
people here can't seem to live without being at war against somebody or something.Lmao at people going "Oh we know what he's REALLY thinking."
Y'all are sad.