Yea indeed!
All it needs is a quick-weapon swap. A PC port could have that if SE wouldn't thanks to kind modders...
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Resetera's Top 101 Essential RPGs - Final Update. Top 101 up plus many extras.
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Yea indeed!
All it needs is a quick-weapon swap. A PC port could have that if SE wouldn't thanks to kind modders...
This is one of those opinions that I just am baffled by. SMTIV had some good ideas in its story, but it's a mess in execution in some places, one of the biggest being that so much of it is missing on certain paths. Even on Neutral it's damn hard to keep track of everything even if you try to talk to everyone. It's just so scattered around in tiny fragments that don't easily contextualize in your head. I'd also agree with the opinions in this thread that the two halves of it don't quite fit together as well as they should and that lack of coherence hurts it.
I'm generally of the opinion that the best SMT stories are Nocturne, Devil Survivor Overclocked, Strange Journey, and DDS*. I'd never even consider putting SMTIV in that list.
DDS is in there mostly for the pure mindfuckery factor. It's so twisted up in every direction that I'd have a hard time even trying to criticize it thematically.
Also, how are we posting SMTIV music and nobody's posted Roppongi?
The way the drums in the background are basically a bizarre inverse of the electronic keyboard or whatever in the foreground and thus make everything punchier always puts a smile on my face.
Edit: Also, the Infernal Underground theme is probably my favourite song in the game.
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Yes, it is. It's labelled as RPG everywhere, from the website, PSN store, to wikipedia.
Now, let's compare it to Yakuza 0.
And God of War.
Much obliged:
Shame it only plays in a very tiny area of the game, but it sets the tone perfectly. Coincidentally, that whole stretch (+ the events preceding it) was by far my favorite part of SMT IV's narrative, the story was building to such a great crescendo.
Shame it only plays in a very tiny area of the game, but it sets the tone perfectly. Coincidentally, that whole stretch (+ the events preceding it) was by far my favorite part of SMT IV's narrative, the story was building to such a great crescendo.
The first time I played SMTIV, I got to just before that whole sequence and was thinking, "Okay, this series usually will try to horribly mindfuck you in some way, but it's all been relatively tame other than the initial Tokyo twist" and then this happened, and I was so happy, lol
My favorite tracks are Lucifer's Palace, Kinshicho Underground(from Apocalypse), and just about any district's hub music. IV's OST was just amazing.
I knew I'd regret not voting, but I'm very happy Tales of Symphonia still made the cut.
Very interested to see how high EarthBound and Mother 3 will rank.
Very interested to see how high EarthBound and Mother 3 will rank.
I actually prefer Apocalypse's take on the Hunter Association theme.
It's just so... cozy. In a uniquely cyberpunky way.
NICE Terranigma placement! Amazing game, anybody who loves 16-bit RPGs should absolutely give it a shot. The ending is one for the ages and will stick with you, it should be mentioned in the same breath as other SNES classics.
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Here's a scorching hot take.
Oblivion > Skyrim
The quests in Oblivion are too good, Whodunit is an all time great.
Oblivion > Skyrim
The quests in Oblivion are too good, Whodunit is an all time great.
Yeah in terms of quests I'll certainly agree. The Dark Brotherhood storyline in that one is so much better and a more personal dark story then what we got in Skyrim, same can be said for Thieves guild and a few others as well IMO.
I am surprised that Final Fantasy XV is out so early but very happy that it made it so far into the rate. The game is incredibly charming and sunk me in deep - some of the best dungeon design in the series, gorgeous to look at, and filled with so many unique ideas. It is an oddball in the series, for sure, but I think it is a great one. Noctis ended up being one of my favorite protagonists in the series.
this is all kinds of fucked up. But hey, at least FFXV didn't make it to the Top 50.
Okay, so how many people put Terranigma on their list because of the Kyle Bosman playthough?
Lots of interesting placements so far! Surprisingly strong showing for FFXV (although I'm sure other people will be disappointed at it not cracking the Top 50). Amazing job on this list to everyone involved, as always!
Lots of interesting placements so far! Surprisingly strong showing for FFXV (although I'm sure other people will be disappointed at it not cracking the Top 50). Amazing job on this list to everyone involved, as always!
Oblivion will always be my favorite in the Elder Scrolls series. Most people here probably have Morrowind as their favorite but Oblivion is something special to me. Kinda like comfort food. There is a cozy feel walking around Cyrodiil, being greeted by some of the most grotesque and bizarre looking friendly beings in fiction. So many warm memories attached to that game.
Now I want to redo the Dark Brotherhood quests.
Now I want to redo the Dark Brotherhood quests.
Surprised XV even made it this high on Era. In my opinion it should be even higher up, but I can't be disappointed on its placement on this forum. :]
Being higher than Horizon, Yakuza, and Dark Souls is surprisingly since it seems like the majority of the forum love those games. But it just looks like the XV haters are just a vocal minority.
Nice to see Terranigma up there too.
Being higher than Horizon, Yakuza, and Dark Souls is surprisingly since it seems like the majority of the forum love those games. But it just looks like the XV haters are just a vocal minority.
Nice to see Terranigma up there too.
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I don't know how I feel about FFXV being higher than Dark Souls 2, Witcher 2 and KH1, but at least I know it will be lower than KH2 :P
And those too.
And those too.
we have yet to see
- FF VI+ FF VII (top 10, always. Every time)
- FF IX
- FF X
- FF XIV. I don't think XIV will be very high if it will even be here, I would've voted for it but it doesn't feel right to vote for an MMO here
- FF XII
I'm guessing everything will be placed besides the NES classics (I-III).
Since SMT 4 was posted, this is still my favorite music on the game. It's the first battle theme but it's the one in the entire game that resonated more with me.
People here dislike XIII alot more than XV. It has zero chance of showing up now that we know XV placement.
I played a bit of FFXV the other day. I don't think I've ever been so confused as to whether I like a game or not. Oftentimes I'll pick it up and think "this is so bad I just can't". But then later end up reminiscing positively about the experience. It's weird.
Hmm you're right. It never showed up in the previous years lists either. I have a feeling that people like XIII more than XV.
exactly how I felt after beating it. When I was going through it, I couldn't stop playing it, I was obsessed and when I beat it I just said: "huh" out loud. Didn't play anything for a day or two.
Took me a while to find out I actually kind of hated it.
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Nope. But you are right about the NES part. I don't think that anyone voted for FFIII. FFII got 1-2 votes.
just realized Tokyo Mirage #FE hasn't shown its ugly head. Is it seriously going to be ranked over Tactics Ogre, Vagrant Story, Fire Emblem 2003, Kingdom Hearts and Oblivion???
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I'd be shocked if it places higher than those three lol. I can see it ranking, but not beating out those games. I think even IX will rank higher than VIII.Final Fantasy VIII is coming like a dark horse.
just realized Tokyo Mirage #FE hasn't shown its ugly head. Is it seriously going to be ranked over Tactics Ogre, Vagrant Story, Fire Emblem 1, Kingdom Hearts and Oblivion???
I don't think it has managed to be on the list, as it also happens with FF XIII. If not it will be ultra shocking.
that would be awesome and the best case scenario but I doubt it didn't make it into the list, its small fanbase is extremely loud about it - would love to be wrong though