Putin orders troops to invade eastern Ukraine
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No one is going to start a modern world war over a cyber attack and we didn't the last time Russia did it to us in 2016, 2018, 2020...
It all pisses me off so much. It completely ignores the entire history of the region to paint the Russian government here as anything but the bad guy.
Romney was right on Russia back when he was running for president.
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There may be a point where the Russian people have enough. Or if the Oligarchs (as I understand it, Russia is basically constructed like the mob) just overthrow him.
That legit looks likes the katyusha rockets back in WW2, which is rocket artillery. Russia just has modern rocket artillery which may look like that.
dont kid yourself by thinking civilian suffering and death is not an intentional part of war.
military philosophy for years has emphasized that you bully The civilian population to capitulate to the invading/oppowing force. Civilians are absolutely a target here if not in the immediate shelling than in the hard HARD crackdown and occupation that follows
He is attacking every President since Clinton for failing to stand upto Putin.
He was and I laughed at him. I was wrong and I'm not afraid to admit that. He had the right read on them. I still think he needed to lose, but he was right on this.
We'd be fools to imagine Russia will stop here. Russia's actions warrant a complete and total divorce of all economic ties from the world. This blatant act of imperialistic territorial aggression is proof apparent that Putin has funneled economic gains into territorial expansionism.
Yeah. This is an unhinged shell of a superpower with critical resources and nuclear/chemical/biological capabilities like you said. The options for dealing with it aren't pretty, simple, or quick. I don't even know where to start if he doesn't care about sanctions or can just find a different buyer of oil/gas.
Multiple reports of explosions being heard across Ukraine
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Damn Tankies were big wrong on this one, guess america isn't the only one to flex imperialist muscle in modern times
Taiwan gotta feel tense
Taiwan gotta feel tense
Has it really been 30 years since the balkans? Amazing how you dont notice things like this until they are gone
We'd be fools to imagine Russia will stop here. Russia's actions warrant a complete and total divorce of all economic ties from the world. This blatant act of imperialistic territorial aggression is proof apparent that Putin has funneled economic gains into territorial expansionism.
Biden releases statement on escalating crisis in Ukraine
It's honestly odd that I was not old enough to vote yet and I still remember that debate where the question was like "who's the biggest threat" and people were mocking him for saying ti was Russia
Ukraine-Gaf….I have no idea what to say other than please stay safe out there. This is awful beyond measure.
Fuck you Putin you psychopath.
Fuck you Putin you psychopath.
The "best" case scenario is probably several months of an Afghanistan/Iraq style insurgency warfare in Ukraine, while economic sanctions hurt Russia's ability to stay and they "mission accomplished" and leave. In this scenario nuclear war is avoided, Ukraine isn't absorbed into Russia long term, and Russia isn't able to push any farther and instigate more wars.
Yeah I don't see how Europe doesn't undergo changes from this. I can only hope it's in a more positive direction at the end. Solidarity against Putin must be stronger than ever now.
That's usually true, but I'll fully admit to thinking Mitt Romney was a weirdo when he said we should be fearing Russia back when he ran in 2012. To his credit, he absolutely called this shit.
As someone who grew up in the 90s and 2000s, Russia being something I should be afraid of just didn't make sense to me since I was born a year before the Soviet Union collapsed. I didn't grow up with a "strong" Russia. For the longest time, the only time I heard about Russia at all was either vodka related jokes or "in Soviet Russia..." jokes.
It's only been the past 10 years or so that I've really started to comprehend what exactly Russia can and will do.
Everyone in Eastern Europe is probably terrified given their collective history with the various Russian empires.
I was more talking about him mocking Trumpublican's use of "America First".
Still, Romney was mostly quiet on Russia during Trump's presidency as Russia worked to undermine our Democracy. I mean not completely, but, did he even support election security against their cyber attacks, I don't recall.
Same here, this was one of the only issues he was spot on on.
What is stopping Putin from rolling over all of eastern europe? Western powers don't even have the balls for harsh sanctions.
Yeah, Ukraine is a *big* country. Almost 45 million people.
I think Afghanistan is a good analogy. Taking it won't take too long, but holding it might prove to be difficult long-term. Who knows.
Non-NATO countries certainly will be in crosshair if Putin succeeds in Ukraine.
NATO and EU defensive pacts, without those there but for the grace of god
NATO obviously. If he steps in any NATO country he would have just started WWIII, and there's zero benefit for Russia in doing that.
If Im Nepal or Buthan Im looking for more defensive treaties right now, Finland and Sweden will probably start talking about joining NATO too.
the war started 20 minutes ago. give it until morning before declaring the west has surrendered.
Afghanistan has lots of mountains. Ukraine is pretty much all plains. Well, and some forests.
He hasn't moved against the rest of Eastern Europe yet. Poland is a NATO member, and he hasn't done shit to them yet.
Because the united military strength of NATO countries would completely wipe out Russia's entire military.
If Putin had a long-term master plan to get the Russian Empire or at least more immediately the USSR back together, I don't think Romney's words in 2012 would have mattered much to stop him. Putin doesn't give a shit and he knows there is little the world can do to him without risking a global calamity. And he knows he will outlast any term or terms of a US president.
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