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"If they don't revert all these trash changes I definitely fucking will.
New Xbox coming out soon as well. Fuck Sony"
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"If they don't revert all these trash changes I definitely fucking will.
New Xbox coming out soon as well. Fuck Sony"
Im not saying anymore is actually going to cancel their preorder. Just that people are so unhappy for whatever reason that they are threatening to cancel.
Sounds like it's about other people who may record you, and not Sony themselves.
I can't access my friends list since this update; which is annoying as it doesn't seem like ANYTHING has changed or improved?
I was in the beta for this update and have to say while the new parties seemed strange at first they work a lot better now. They seem to be on dedicated servers instead of p2p so I no longer run into issues when party chatting with friends with strict NAT types and the audio quality stays high for those with slower connections. It feels more like Skype or discord where your chat with a friend or group is always there and you can jump in and out of voice chat instead of needing an invite/creating a party all the time
It seems a bit shit they're basically getting rid of communities. It already had a massive nerf with the removal of parties a few months ago. I hope there's something better for PS5.
People threaten to do loadsa stuff when they're angry. The next day they've got sommit new to be angry about.
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Huh. Wonder if it's in anticipation of new similar features, or they're just doing away with this. The communities are kind of badly implemented, but the event feature was pretty nice.
They really need to clarify this matter asap.
Sony isn't invited to my party.
I don't think it needs clarification. It's right there in black and white. Others can record you in party chat and file complaints using that audio. It specifically says other users.
So it's killing Community Party Chats, and Events? I use those a lot. Why the fuck are they killing them, they're so useful!
Found an article from 2013 that says Sony already has permission to go to your party and wreck things:
Sony Reserves Right to "Monitor and Record" PS4 User Communication
Question: Is Sony monitoring PSN? Answer: Yes. Yes they are. An updated version of Sony’s Software Usage Terms for the PS4 stipulate that Sony may “monitor and record” communications between users made through PSN. The same section of the terms stipulates that Sony also reserves the right to...
v1.escapistmagazine.com
I think this specific change could be related to other users reporting your audio. I am just speculating but since they are increasing party size to 100 users, what if another user can "Report" you and it feeds the Playstation Safety team the last 30 seconds of what the reporting user just heard. They can review the content of the audio, say yep this user is racist/abusive, and then ban you.
I'd just like to say a big fuck you to Sony for the useful features they removed from my PS4 in firmware 8.0.
My Australian PSN Community used Community party chats to signify they were parties where anyone in the Community was welcome to join (they came up with our Community icon next to them in the party list).
We used Events to organise gaming nights (such as themed Gran Turismo Sport race nights) so that we could easily tell people information about the night (e.g. what tracks, what cars to bring), track attendance, and also easily let people know what the start time was in their local timezone (we had gamers across 6 different timezones).
Firmware 8.0 took those features away, and replaced them with... nothing. Just straight up deleted them. What a bunch of cunts.
My Australian PSN Community used Community party chats to signify they were parties where anyone in the Community was welcome to join (they came up with our Community icon next to them in the party list).
We used Events to organise gaming nights (such as themed Gran Turismo Sport race nights) so that we could easily tell people information about the night (e.g. what tracks, what cars to bring), track attendance, and also easily let people know what the start time was in their local timezone (we had gamers across 6 different timezones).
Firmware 8.0 took those features away, and replaced them with... nothing. Just straight up deleted them. What a bunch of cunts.
Communities was indeed a great feature. I used it all the time and it was helpful to check out if a certain game had people playing in that instant.
Why did they remove it?
My guess would be lack of use, does suck if you found a active community you enjoy on there, but my last thought if I had a question about a game would be to search out a PSN community for it.
Glad they added some more avatars feel like they still could add so many more in the new circle format, like how don't they have something for all of their big PS4 games. Death Stranding, Days Gone, Sack Boy, Spider-Man, etc.
There are two avatars from the PS3 of a toothbrush one with and without toothpaste, this has got to be the weirdest assortment of images.
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Others recording you is a possibility with all things, this is about Sony recording all chat audio all the time.
Found an article from 2013 that says Sony already has permission to go to your party and wreck things:
Sony Reserves Right to "Monitor and Record" PS4 User Communication
Question: Is Sony monitoring PSN? Answer: Yes. Yes they are. An updated version of Sony’s Software Usage Terms for the PS4 stipulate that Sony may “monitor and record” communications between users made through PSN. The same section of the terms stipulates that Sony also reserves the right to...
I think this specific change could be related to other users reporting your audio. I am just speculating but since they are increasing party size to 100 users, what if another user can "Report" you and it feeds the Playstation Safety team the last 30 seconds of what the reporting user just heard. They can review the content of the audio, say yep this user is racist/abusive, and then ban you.
If it's something like that, then it would be fine. But this is to me what needs to be clarified, what is recorded and when.
Me too. Their current setup is awful. I assume it's this way because they sell the app placement to the highest bidder.
If you're new to authenticators, I recommend going with the Microsoft authenticator over the google one.
You can no longer create an empty party with just yourself in order to automatically remove yourself from multiplayer voice chat. (An easy way to avoid toxic comments, unwanted music, and background noise like pets and children, etc.)
Addtionally, you can no longer create an open party and have your friends join when they're online/ready. (this is what I do) It's so much easier to just have the first one online in your friends list create the party and have others join as they can. From what I understand about this update, now you HAVE to invite people in order to create a party; which is inconvenient in many ways.
So inviting someone to a group gives access to the previous chat history, thats beyond fubar. If my friend decides to add someone they have access to potentially personal information I gave out and i have 0 control or even a way to purge the message history.
And I do know a few very vindictive people who would abuse this.
This is ridiculously insane. R.I.P. privacy.
And I do know a few very vindictive people who would abuse this.
This is ridiculously insane. R.I.P. privacy.
What's the big concern with Sony having access to party chat audio? Do you think they'll learn what kind of Fig Newton's you like and run targeted ads?
Google and Facebook have mountains more information on you than Sony ever will...this is just another small piece of a much larger picture.
Good. I had some shit experiences in some party chats I was super upset when someone was commenting on my race or whatever it was shit. I'm all for Less harassment.
Glad to see PS5 remote play will be good to go on day one. I had to quickly set it up again on my phone and ps4 this morning so I could play on my lunch break.
So the friends list issue is still going on then? Just updated in the U.K. and it's constantly trying to load then hitting me with an error code of: WS-37505-0.
Privacy is a principal human right. There is no need for any additional concern. Whenever privacy is violated it should be scrutinized and questioned.
You are also dealing with basic assumptions here, because you don't know anything about my internet behavior except for what I have exposed to you here on Era.
The normalization of decreased personal privacy online, doesn't mean we should just accept every time another potentially safe space is violated.
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This might be the worst update Sony ever released. The new party system is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Just looked at PlayStation's FB post on the update, comments just full of pissed off people. Update was definitely a swing and a miss, wonder if they'll walk back any of the changes or just wait for people to cool off.
Lots of confusion about that party recording notification that pops up when you join a party too. People thinking Sony is automatically recording chat and not that they are trying to say that other players themselves can record you and report you.
Lots of confusion about that party recording notification that pops up when you join a party too. People thinking Sony is automatically recording chat and not that they are trying to say that other players themselves can record you and report you.
They need reverse this until they can fix the friends list issue. Maybe at the same time just rethink the party system change.
That's some premium garbage right here.
What a horrible firmware right before PS5. Restrictions to this, restrictions to that, everything dumber and more complicated, welcome to the future.
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Oh cool, and friendlists are dead.