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Post some bad character/monster redesigns
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Goddamn it, now I got to preorderThey have the fucking audacity to hide the better look behind a pre-order bonus
The first image is a dead ringer for snake girl from ninja scroll which I'm assuming is some kind of an arch typeSMT thread? SMT thread.
Lilith
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Almost every redesign in SMT4 and 4A is an abomination.* Kamen Rider Odin is among the least offensive, and he's still a huge downgrade from Soul Hackers Odin.
*Although I'll give Doi some credit for cleaning up a few of the terrible SMT4 designs for Apocalypse.
*Although I'll give Doi some credit for cleaning up a few of the terrible SMT4 designs for Apocalypse.
I know some of yous don't like Tokusatsu Odin, but I think he fits right in with the other Norse Gods.
look at that flex
look at that flex
SMT thread? SMT thread.
Lilith
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Which game was the redesign in? All the Lilith's i've seen look like the first pic.
Fire Emblem 3, I like you, but I think that ultimately, you giving Marth a pair of pants was a mistake.
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Now to pick one out of the hat for Megaten...
Let's go with... say, Medusa.
And game-wise... let's go with Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei (the remake of MT1 and MT2)
MT1:
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(bonus sprite: Medusa Shadow, a different enemy. And for some reason, has a different design from the original Famicom version)
MT 2:
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(Famicom artwork, upper left corner)
You know Medusa, while I do recall kicking your ass in the MT1 half of Kyuuyaku, the part where your entire body below the head disintegrated away, but also leaving your head intact, is not ringing any bells.
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FE3:
Now to pick one out of the hat for Megaten...
Let's go with... say, Medusa.
And game-wise... let's go with Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei (the remake of MT1 and MT2)
MT1:
(sprite)
(artwork)
(bonus sprite: Medusa Shadow, a different enemy. And for some reason, has a different design from the original Famicom version)
MT 2:
(sprite)
(Famicom artwork, upper left corner)
You know Medusa, while I do recall kicking your ass in the MT1 half of Kyuuyaku, the part where your entire body below the head disintegrated away, but also leaving your head intact, is not ringing any bells.
Hot take: These are good actually.Castlevania Judgement and Dawn of Sorrow anime twist go here
Going for Takeshi Obata's art was a good idea on paper, but the results are a complete misfire for the most part.
Though Mummified Grant and armoured Cornell I kinda low key dig.
He looks significantly better in the redesign. SorryFire Emblem 3, I like you, but I think that ultimately, you giving Marth a pair of pants was a mistake.
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I actually like this change. Old Lucifer is way in the nose and cliché (fallen six wing angel + regular demon). I very much appreciate the series nonstandard takes in mythical Abrahamic creatures, like the archangels in SMT IV.I love SMT ,but what were they thinking with Lucifer when they were doing SMTIV/A:
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This I'll agree is a step down. The original had something going for it with that mother Alien look. New one isn't bad but should be a new demon entirely.Another bad SMT one:
Satan
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While the Lucifer redesign could have been better in execution i still prefer the idea over stupid horned fabio demon.
Kinda bummed we got old lucifer back in SMTV. Lucifer should be either strike fear or be a charmer and not looking for the nearest gym.
Kinda bummed we got old lucifer back in SMTV. Lucifer should be either strike fear or be a charmer and not looking for the nearest gym.
Why does he have the 7 heads/10 crowns motive anyway? That's not Satan, that's his pet Beast.Another bad SMT one:
Satan
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Fire Emblem 3, I like you, but I think that ultimately, you giving Marth a pair of pants was a mistake.
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Redesign looks much better IMO
Typhlosion is still in my top 5 favorite Pokemon, but I never used him in the 3D games for this very reason. Very dumb decision by GF's design team.
I will never get over this
I thought this design was hilarious and a throwback to the god-awful box art of the older Mega Man games. (Specifically MM1)
I love SMT ,but what were they thinking with Lucifer when they were doing SMTIV/A:
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All of these designs are good though.Another bad SMT one:
Satan
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IIRC wasn't this more of a bad timing & planning sort of thing? This probably would have made way more sense if Mega Man Universe actually came out which was the first to acknowledge US Boxart Mega Man as a Capcom character proper. Glad they committed to the joke despite the complaints and had RE3 show off in-universe merchandise featuring this version (well, a much more idealized version of this version anyway).
They're not really good examples of redesigns imo as they span different narratively unconnected games, right? A design for "god" or "satan" wouldn't ever cross over between unrelated titles like this.
It's more a different take than a redesign. And this isn't just a semantic argument. A redesign writes over a previous established design for a specific character whose sotry is continuing or evolving, not the same as a different take on the same concept in an unrelated game. It's not overwriting something, which is what a redesign does and why a bad one can be so shit.
The Ivy in RE2
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 2 Remake
Naw, i prefer the remake design here. That old one looks like some goofy Final Fantasy enemy that doesn't belong in a horror game.
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The Satan redesign, while lame, is not that bad but I really don't like the Lucifer one , to me it looks lame.
I don't consider them actual redesigns though either, as reasoned above.
This is one of the worst character redesign to date. It's gets even worse when there's concept art of a more faithful recreation...
Lol, I was going to say the old one looks straight out of Zelda 64, right down to the color palette
satsuki in demon's souls
Yeah this is crazy. "Blah blah blah the new one is obviously superior". They butchered the character designs and style in general.
From high schooler to savvy business woman who's so busy she forgets her underwear and dresses 5 sizes too small.
Another bad SMT one:
Satan
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Eh. It's a good design still. Just different. Granted, not as great as the SMT2 one, but not bad.
Eh, probably not. Lucifer's back to normal and the only redesign from Apoc that's carried over has been Odin, seemingly.
Speaking of which, holy shit Odin sucks.
Kaneko Odin is nice and simple. He's got Gungnir, he's got the eyepatch, really the only problem is that he's got the horned helmet but that's the kind of embellishment attached to Vikings. SMT Odin is a super streamlined view of Odin down to his core essentials.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS ASSHOLE
Having a raven with him is nice but come the fuck on, they turned him into Kamen Rider.
Old Odin sucks. Get that Wagner shit outta here. I'll handily take the new one.
Yeah well, feast your eyes on Soul Hackers Odin
This ain't too bad. Minus the horns.
This is one of the worst character redesign to date. It's gets even worse when there's concept art of a more faithful recreation...
The bottom art is still not that great. While the design is more faithful, the style isn't as great, the face looks somehow more infantilized, the pose is more passive, and there's increased focus on her legs, hips and butt. In some ways that unused concept is worse than the actual redesign.
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Are you speaking of the Tyrant? Because he has one of the derpiest face I ever saw.
Also modern Pinky is a mess that seems coming out directly from Doom 64:
SMT thread? SMT thread.
Lilith
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Cause she had to go shoot some scenes in blade runner?
She looks fine? Also, better "off looking" than continuing the trend...Halo 5 Cortana just looking off and weird
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Demon Lucy is meant to be seen in contrast with Angel Lucy
Which I personally think is better as a Lucifer design.
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Demon Lucy is meant to be seen in contrast with Angel Lucy
Which I personally think is better as a Lucifer design.
I agree that this should be the Lucifer design going forward.
But that's another demon right? Helel. I know it's just pre-Heresy Lucifer but I rather have both of them.
No idea what game this is but the second pic looks better to me? They gave him an actual neck and his hair doesn't look like a helmet anymore.Surprised no one mentioned him yet:
He thankfully has been redeemed now. :)
From high schooler to savvy business woman who's so busy she forgets her underwear and dresses 5 sizes too small.
Eh. It's a good design still. Just different. Granted, not as great as the SMT2 one, but not bad.
Old Odin sucks. Get that Wagner shit outta here. I'll handily take the new one.
This ain't too bad. Minus the horns.
The bottom art is still not that great. While the design is more faithful, the style isn't as great, the face looks somehow more infantilized, the pose is more passive, and there's increased focus on her legs, hips and butt. In some ways that unused concept is worse than the actual redesign.
He looks like he should be throwing hands with the Power Rangers!