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Police threated, assault uniformed Army officer at traffic stop based on incorrect assumptions
- Thread starter mbpm
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Man I aint even surprised when I read Windsor Va. thats like bumfuck hickville over there. Thank god I never have a reason to go over there.
and yea, fuck them cops.
i hate how cops have this holier than thou superior attitude, like, you gotta bow down to them and shit.
and yea, fuck them cops.
i hate how cops have this holier than thou superior attitude, like, you gotta bow down to them and shit.
What. The. Fuck.
Clearly no one is getting anything from these traffic stops. As much as American police have been awfully racist, it's also easy to get into the mindset of a police officer in the situation.
You pull someone over. You have no idea the situation you are getting into. If the other person is armed. What their identity is etc. It's a terrifying situation. And they often react in terrified ways.
Putting myself in the mind of a civilian pulled over is even worse! You know things could escalate or you could be killed if you move your hands in the wrong way.
It's terrible policing! Putting your officers on the defensive. Sending them into situations that could easily spiral, with them having so little information and control. Also: everyone has a gun.
It makes no sense.
Systemic racism is awful, and these officers need to be fired, but also : stop doing so many traffic stops! It's a fucked situation for everyone. Think about how the policing tactics you use are making the racism out there even worse.
I guess people would say that's the point.
I think that there is some stupid law where if cops find cash they can take it because "nobody carries $1k+ in cash except drug dealers" logic
So yeah Civil Asset Forfeiture laws are completely fucked up.
It behooves small town cop to stop as many cars as possible to maximize profits for the city.
Like how else is a 2k person city going to make money??
Thank you. My Grandmother told every woman who married into the family what happened to him. It's the reason why I'm from Michigan and not the South.
This is all by design. They want it like this. Cities profit, cops profit, and white supremacy profits. I firmly believe this system cannot be reformed but needs to be rebuilt.
Civil Asset Forfeiture is garbage. You aren't guaranteed defense counsel because the police are going after property and not a person. Most people don't know they can fight it and if they do, they often don't have the means to. It's easy money for police departments and cities.
Rear license plate magically appeared when they found out the man was doing nothing wrong. I wish these cops the worst. Literal dangers to law abiding citizens.
That lieutenant bout to get paidddddd
Where do they get the money from all these lawsuits? Oh yea tax dollars smh. They should all go for the union coffers for this shit for protecting these assholes oh but wait I think the union leaders are all KKK/white supremacist....
We've been trying to tell yall that the police union leadership and union leaders are compromised because the KKK infiltrated them
Where do they get the money from all these lawsuits? Oh yea tax dollars smh. They should all go for the union coffers for this shit for protecting these assholes oh but wait I think the union leaders are all KKK/white supremacist....
We've been trying to tell yall that the police union leadership and union leaders are compromised because the KKK infiltrated them
Cops pensions need to be put on the line for shit like this. It's time to mess with their money.
Hope they get what's coming to them, especially the older cop, dude is not compatible with society.
It's ok, guys, I'm sure these are good cops that just need more training. /s
Really though, how can this ever be considered proper procedure? If anything, pulling over into a well lit, public area that is assuredly filled with security cameras should lead to a presumption that the person isn't dangerous.
Really though, how can this ever be considered proper procedure? If anything, pulling over into a well lit, public area that is assuredly filled with security cameras should lead to a presumption that the person isn't dangerous.
I hate to say it, but his choice not to get out of the car may have saved his life. It's too easy to imagine a scenario where the lieutenant reaches inside to turn off the engine, the cops assume his movements indicate he is grabbing a weapon, and they fire on him the moment he steps out of the car.
They hire aggressive bullies with no other career path.
All the wrong power gets put into the wrong hands.
All the wrong power gets put into the wrong hands.
So they pulled him over cause they saw he didn't have a license plate. But when they got to a well lite area (which they admit was typical when stopping black drivers) and noticed he had tempt tags they then escalated the situation that right?
Pretty much but honestly they probably decided he escalated the situation by deciding to pull over in an area that had better lighting and in doing so made them have to wait for their chance to target and bother a minority and/or lowered their chances of being able to murder him and claim they didn't have a choice.
Someone help me out here. I want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.
The only reason he was pulled over is because the officer claimed he didn't have a license plate?
... but the truth is that it was dark and the officer simply couldn't see the license plate?
The only reason he was pulled over is because the officer claimed he didn't have a license plate?
... but the truth is that it was dark and the officer simply couldn't see the license plate?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...officers-of-assault/ar-BB1fvTvV?ocid=msedgntp
So the Army officer is suing for 1 million dollars in damages and violating his civil rights.
and...
So it's a small town with only 6 police, and they have gone media silence since they realized they fucked up "arresting" a Army officer. The two "cops" are Officer Joe Gutierrez and Officer Daniel Crocker. Their Chief Rodney Daniel Riddle tried to buy the Army Officer's compliance by saying he don't mention it then they won't press charges to "ruin" his career.
So the Army officer is suing for 1 million dollars in damages and violating his civil rights.
and...
So it's a small town with only 6 police, and they have gone media silence since they realized they fucked up "arresting" a Army officer. The two "cops" are Officer Joe Gutierrez and Officer Daniel Crocker. Their Chief Rodney Daniel Riddle tried to buy the Army Officer's compliance by saying he don't mention it then they won't press charges to "ruin" his career.
Yeah, I figured that the higher-ups would be getting involved once word of this spread.
Though as an side, it's always weird that in America you have partisan officials ordering (or "suggesting") police investigations.
Though as an side, it's always weird that in America you have partisan officials ordering (or "suggesting") police investigations.
Probably just easier for them not to cover or acknowledge it at all
Damn that police department is gonna get so much heat for these racist fuck officers. Good
Side note, I have NEVER seen an arrest video where the officer talks calm & isn't aggressive once the suspect has made it obvious he is done/not resisting. Like what the fuck!? The dude was yours; I see this behavior in every damn video
Side note, I have NEVER seen an arrest video where the officer talks calm & isn't aggressive once the suspect has made it obvious he is done/not resisting. Like what the fuck!? The dude was yours; I see this behavior in every damn video
At this point, I expect the Windsor PD to try to settle this out of court and media circus, promise training, suspend the officer with pay, investigate themselves and find no wrong doing and hope it all goes away.
I've seen so many stories were the police themselves tell you to pull over to a well lit area if you feel uncomfortable, especially on a dark road. The guy does exactly that and gets maced and handcuffed for it.
These freakin backwoods cops are the worst. Only something like a dozen officers on the force so this power shit goes to their heads. Hope he sues the shit out of them.
These freakin backwoods cops are the worst. Only something like a dozen officers on the force so this power shit goes to their heads. Hope he sues the shit out of them.
May be a little tough to claim this particular police force only has a few bad apples when 66% of your entire officers were present at this stop.
I can only hope this lawsuit "defunds" them into non-existence.
I think it's because ANY level of non-compliance is taken as a a blow to police officers' egos, even if the non-compliance is perfectly reasonable under the circumstances (like waiting to pull over until you are in a safe, well lit area, or being scared for your life to step out of your vehicle when two officers are yelling at you, guns draws). They need to make sure that, first and foremost, you know your place and submit to their authority, rather than working towards the resolution of least resistance.
Plus, in this case, add in the high degree of likelihood that these particular officers are racist.
From that press release, the town sounds scared shitless. Sounds like they might be trying to do the right thing, but I still hope they get the crap sued out of them.
The murder of Philando Castile made that abundantly clear. The guy had a valid license, tried to show it to the police, and was still gunned down
They need to but this will never happen.
What we need is to put control of the police union into civilian hands and somehow convince POC in large numbers to join the police force and start calling other cops out when shit like this happens to the point the "blue wall of silence" stops to be a thing. Also, they need to make it more difficult for ex-military to join the police force, but this would probably never happen and I can just imagine the narrative FOX News would take if they tried.
Police departments are mostly a baby-sitting service for people who were too stupid, violent, or blatantly corrupt to enlist or stay in the service, anyway.
It's a protection racket we pay to keep thousands of psychopaths from turning to outright banditry, though they're inching ever closer all the time.
It's a protection racket we pay to keep thousands of psychopaths from turning to outright banditry, though they're inching ever closer all the time.
Yeah that was my first thought. The officer was mad he had to drive after this person, and his anger only rose when he saw it was a person of color serving in a branch of the military the officer couldn't dream of cutting it in.
Of course that's me making a bunch of assumptions about individuals that make up the police force. I don't know the make up or if police institutions recruit heavily from the Armed Forces whenever a service member retires.
In my experience (as a veteran) there's a pretty robust military->police->corrections pipeline, in descending order of "can you hack it", though it should be noted that one of the things cities trying to cut back on police brutality do is limit the amount of recruiting they do from soldiers released early from service (ie, disciplinary or fitness issues not bad enough to warrant Dishonorable Discharge). I know Seattle PD has in recent years changed their preference to not hiring prior service members, for example.
Oh they have their moments against 'white' people as well. There are less consequences when they assault and murder POC though for sure. Also I believe you are over 2.5x more likely to be killed by police using force if you are Black, but of course that doesn't take into account massive swings in statistics across the country. Some areas have cops killing black people at 6 times the rate of whites.
Though the worst police shooting, nay execution, I have ever seen remains the Daniel Shaver one in Mesa. It shows that yeah, USA police are fucking crazy.
Sadly, the system is so stacked in the favor of cops that as we've seen before, this officer will likely just be hired by another department later this year.
