Tell that to Gamefreak. We'll discuss what we want to discuss. You don't need to bicker, discuss whatever you want to discuss.We want to be able to talk and discuss a game we are looking forward to without it descending into pointless bickering.
Tell that to Gamefreak. We'll discuss what we want to discuss. You don't need to bicker, discuss whatever you want to discuss.We want to be able to talk and discuss a game we are looking forward to without it descending into pointless bickering.
it'll still be low tier. that's something people sick of charizard can have to look forward to, at leastCharizard is the champ's main pokemon.
its getting a new form.
(also its fucking Charizard lol)
Tell that to Gamefreak. We'll discuss what we want to discuss. You don't need to bicker, discuss whatever you want to discuss.
Thats all well and good but voicing it in every single thread to people who can do fuck all about it does nothing but force people to join in on your misery.I guess the spoiler is speculation, since I don't think we know that based on the leaks.
Because unlike what some of you may think we don't hate Pokémon. Quite the contrary. This is actully puting a damper on our enjoyment of the franchise and we don't enjoy shitting constantly on the games and receiving backlash for voicing our concerns. What we want is for something to be done, and we won't stop until something is done, and we sure aren't stopping just because some of you find it annoying. Honestly, I don't care.
It's also not like we made a heel turn because GF has decided to stop letting us transfer our Pokémon. I'm barely affected by it, I don't care that much. What I DO care about is raising awareness of the trend GF adopted back around Gen VI which has led to this situation and will lead to more in the future. We've been warning everyone for years, particularly last year with Let's Go and very few people actually listened. Mostly because they never cared much, which is fair, but we could do without your constant whining about people's criticism towards GameFreak.
just say "fuck off" it's shorter.
thanks for this post. Best way to sum it up.Thats all well and good but voicing it in every single thread to people who can do fuck all about it does nothing but force people to join in on your misery.
The lack of national dex sucks. the reasoning is bullshit. the animations are wonky and yes Gamefreak needs to do better. BUT at the same time not everyone wants to have to wade through the same posts every time some new pokemon news happens. Not everyone wants to focus on the negatives all the time.
Contrary to what many seem to think constant negative criticism doesn't actually foster much discussion as yall think. Its kind of a one way street and honestly tends to only end in these meta discussions.
No. The people being "negative" are not trying to shut down the other side of the conversation.
I see, the usual "tu quoque".When it takes over the conversation to the point of derailing the thread I don't see how it's that easy to not respond. You just responded yourself and you didn't need to. It's not that easy.
You were complaining about someone else, you were bickering.
We are not hijacking anything. If you are so desperate to discuss a videogame in a videogame forum and want to turn a blind eye to the pressing matter that centralizes every conversation use the ignore function. Or, hey, keep on complaining, but I don't see the point on that, you are just contributing to the derailment.Yeah, taking your next post as a reference, our goal is to enjoy the news about the games we're hyped about without having to listen the repetitive banter of people who doesn't want to enjoy it. Basically every single thread is hijacked by the exact same discussion and it's getting annoying.
You want something to be done. We want too, but you're infinitely more noisy.
No, we're telling that to YOU, who are the ones incessantly hijacking threads. YOU go talk to Game Freak, for fucks sake.
Thanks for actually taking the time to form a good answer. I do agree, but it's an inevitability. I, for one, don't usually post much about it precisely for the reasons you stated, there's already enough people talking about it. But I also don't feel that much interested in talking about any other aspect of the games because this is what is really defining them for us. So what can we do? I'm not making up a problem, it is a problem that can't be avoided. Sucks if you don't have that problem and want to discuss other topics of the game (which I'm sure you can if you really ignored the issue) but can you really blame us for it? This is what GF decided, not me.Thats all well and good but voicing it in every single thread to people who can do fuck all about it does nothing but force people to join in on your misery.
The lack of national dex sucks. the reasoning is bullshit. the animations are wonky and yes Gamefreak needs to do better. BUT at the same time not everyone wants to have to wade through the same posts every time some new pokemon news happens. Not everyone wants to focus on the negatives all the time.
Contrary to what many seem to think constant negative criticism doesn't actually foster much discussion as yall think. Its kind of a one way street and honestly tends to only end in these meta discussions.
I guess, but its a very safe bet.I guess the spoiler is speculation, since I don't think we know that based on the leaks.
Uuuuuuuuh yes, they are. Positive discussion is ignored and quickly reverted to negative, and this is the place that takes it more easily.
As you have already said, if you want an echo chamber go make a Discord.
This kind of shit works both ways as you can see.
lol you are trying too hard man,I played more than 100h of this game and nothing close to that happened.Yeah it's not like other games that have 1000 people working on them and the highest budget in video game history have issues or anything.
If you are so desperate to discuss a videogame in a videogame forum and want to turn a blind eye to the pressing matter that centralizes every conversation use the ignore function
Or, hey, keep on complaining, but I don't see the point on that, you are just contributing to the derailment.
No, that's clearly not happening. No one is trying to stop you from having a "positive" discussion.
Use the ignore button, better to keep your sanity than to bicker on a conversation that you hate.We want to be able to talk about and discuss a game we are looking forward to without it descending into pointless bickering.
No. The people being "negative" are not trying to shut down the other side of the conversation.
But I also don't feel that much interested in talking about any other aspect of the games because this is what is really defining them for us. So what can we do? I'm not making up a problem, it is a problem that can't be avoided.
lol you are trying too hard man,I played more than 100h of this game and nothing close to that happened.
I'm not ignoring anyone because I really don't feel I should. But you are free to ignore me, I'm not getting mad about it.Yes, you are.
Same to you. In fact i can recommend you to start using the ignore function right now.
Or. Go make a discord.
Again, same. Every.single.thread.gets.derailed.by.the.same.banter.
And no, I'm not leaving to make a discord just because you don't want to hear about us, lol. Wtf.
And no, I'm not leaving to make a discord just because you don't want to hear about us, lol. Wtf.
I mean, there is a function literally called "Ignore".You are shutting down the conversation by taking over the conversation. Just saying "ignore it" is not an answer either because the negative people are trying their best to make sure that we can't ignore it.
There was a thread specifically where all the negative people hung out in. Where did that thread go?
You can ignore posters, skip out on reading their posts, not acknowledge them, or whatever else. Not allowing people to talk about something because their opinion isn't positive is just silly. And no, I don't think people with positive opinions should leave and go to Discord either.You are shutting down the conversation by taking over the conversation. Just saying "ignore it" is not an answer either because the negative people are trying their best to make sure that we can't ignore it.
I'm shocked this was less of a concern on the N64 than the Switch.Anchor points look really bad without particle physics for when the emitter is moving around. It makes sense for a move that's shared between all fire types to be fixed. Unreal Engine would be great for particles, but this looks like a much more designed and less generated effect.
I don't care, that person is not me. I'm not advocating for them.They were only saying that because that was what was suggested for us to do.
Plenty of glitches in 10h? unlucky guy ,and what camp bug? I know RDR2 has one.You are shutting down the conversation by taking over the conversation. Just saying "ignore it" is not an answer either because the negative people are trying their best to make sure that we can't ignore it.
There was a thread specifically where all the negative people hung out in. Where did that thread go?
I played 10 hours (because imo it sucked) and I had plenty of glitches (including the camp bug).
Well, you just told us to make a Discord if we want to have an echo chamber. And then there's shit like this
If you are so desperate to discuss a videogame in a videogame forum and want to turn a blind eye to the pressing matter that centralizes every conversation use the ignore function
Yeah sure, nobody is trying to stop us from having a positive chat. We just have to go make a Discord and have our little own echo chamber
You are shutting down the conversation by taking over the conversation. Just saying "ignore it" is not an answer either because the negative people are trying their best to make sure that we can't ignore it.
Also, it's up to the mods to take action if they feel a thread is getting derailed or if they want conversations confined into a single thread. You are not one of them as far as I know.
And no, there was not a thread about it? There were threads related to the issue directly, but every Pokémon SwSh is directly connected to it so is fair game.
It sucked and still won more awards than all Pokémons combined,constantly praised as one of the greatest games ever.
It can be tiring to read a lot of negative reactions, but this is a forum for people to discuss their reactions to gaming news. It's completely fair for them to do so in a thread about a trailer for said game.Yeah, taking your next post as a reference, our goal is to enjoy the news about the games we're hyped about without having to listen the repetitive banter of people who doesn't want to enjoy it. Basically every single thread is hijacked by the exact same discussion and it's getting annoying.
You want something to be done. We want too, but you're infinitely more noisy.
No, we're telling that to YOU, who are the ones incessantly hijacking threads. YOU go talk to Game Freak, for fucks sake.
It you don't like it, maybe it's on you to stop reading the threads.
Just so you know, guys, I'm fuming every time someone says they like Rolycoly. I can't wait to jump at that little fucker's yugular and tell them how much I hate Gamefreak.
I'm just being facetious. And I love Rolycoly.
Yeah, I feel you. I was actually quite positive about the game after the Direct, it sucks.Yeah?! Well, and I hate it even more! Pokémon should just be animals!
I actually quite like a lot of what they're showing. This seems like it could be the best game in the franchise and I'm super bummed I can't be excited for it.
But I apparently have an agenda against game freak or something
Era doesn't really have a strong community for that either way with Pokemon. Trades will probably be possible for the first month or so, but good luck finding battles.Or perhaps it's on both sides to try and be as considerate as possible to each other (I understand personally I need to do better in this regard). Why is it on us to leave the thread? I saw someone yesterday who was upset because they didn't think they would have somewhere on this forum to discuss, in peace, organising trading and battling when the games come out. That's how dumb it's become.
Look, I'm not really that fussed about Dexit, animations or whatever. I'm looking forward to playing the game when it hits in November.Or perhaps it's on both sides to try and be as considerate as possible to each other (I understand personally I need to do better in this regard). Why is it on us to leave the thread? I saw someone yesterday who was upset because they didn't think they would have somewhere on this forum to discuss, in peace, organising trading and battling when the games comes out. That's how dumb it's become.
It's the melee vs Brawl/Smash 4/SSBU debacle again, this time between gen5 fans and SwSh playersThe leak kinda makes me wonder how they're going to bullshit a thing.
what? that doesn't apply to my reply chainIt's the melee vs Brawl/Smash 4/SSBU debacle again, this time between gen5 fans and SwSh players
The difference here is that Melee has less content than the later games.It's the melee vs Brawl/Smash 4/SSBU debacle again, this time between gen5 fans and SwSh players
Era doesn't really have a strong community for that either way with Pokemon. Trades will probably be possible for the first month or so, but good luck finding battles.
I seem to recall there was a recent thread that was quite positive about some of the other potential changes made that stayed very positive throughout because they asked that people didn't discuss anything off topic (the animations, Dexit etc.) from the subject in hand. There can be (and will be) places to talk about the game where positivity can take control, but as I said, people are entitled to their opinions in threads about the game in general
I seem to recall there was a recent thread that was quite positive about some of the other potential changes made that stayed very positive throughout because they asked that people didn't discuss anything off topic (the animations, Dexit etc.) from the subject in hand.
Who is pretending? It's been commented on multiple times. It's not Furukawa is going to come out and say something.I'm always on the side of debacles that Nintendo pretends doesn't exist smh
Who is pretending? It's been commented on multiple times. It's not Furukawa is going to come out and say something.
You kind of went out of your way to turn this into a big deal and are actively derailing the thread, so yeah, I'd say people like you are the issue.Don't you realise the fact that the only way to get a decent discussion about the game is telling people to tune out the negativity a bit?
That's the level this whole situation has. And it's us the issue? Really?
You kind of went out of your way to turn this into a big deal and are actively derailing the thread, so yeah, I'd say people like you are the issue.
I'm having a look for the thread now, will let you know when I find it!Do you have a link to that thread because if it's what I think it was then there was still plenty of negativity and mods had to step in.
Because this is an online forum with people talking about Pokemon in topics about Pokemon.Yeah, well, i exploded when i got told that we should make a discord so we could have our own little echo chamber of positivity.
I'm pissed off right now
I mean why the fuck should i have to use the ignore function, or swim through rivers of mud, or go open a Discord if i wanted to have a discussion about SwSh that wouldn't spin about animations and how mediocre is game freak yaddayadda?
Nobody has given me a reason that isn't "Deal with it"
Yeah, well, i exploded when i got told that we should make a discord so we could have our own little echo chamber of positivity.
I'm pissed off right now
I mean why the fuck should i have to use the ignore function, or swim through rivers of mud, or go open a Discord if i wanted to have a discussion about SwSh that wouldn't spin about animations and how mediocre is game freak yaddayadda?
Nobody has given me a reason that isn't "Deal with it"