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Pokémon Sword and Shield Sells 16 MILLION in 1.5 months
- Thread starter Nikachu
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Well, I'm basing myself in the fact previous portable-only titles didn't had such sales rate. Sure Switch has a portable option, but if this is the only reason and console element is meaningless, care to explain why this didn't happened before?
DS was booming, too, perhaps even stronger than Switch, but it's Pokémon games never had such fast performance. Care to explain this?
What about the Wii? You think it "didn't worth the risk"? Well, that's some controversial opinion, for sure.
You're right, but my reference to Zelda was in reference to the animations. The only sacrifice required for good animation is development time.
For the dungeons in Pokemon, there's really no excuse for not including them. They've always been separate areas and there would be no problem with having them as separate areas in Pokemon Sword & Shield. The dungeons were intentionally omitted from the game, and not for technical reasons. And still, the scope of Pokemon Sword & Shield is much smaller than Zelda.
What the fuck lmao I expected a great opening from it but not that insanely massive.
I thought that 20m could be the ceiling before the end of the year but now it's the FLOOR and beating G/S isn't impossible.
also im enjoying the salt in this thread. games were great 🤙
I thought that 20m could be the ceiling before the end of the year but now it's the FLOOR and beating G/S isn't impossible.
also im enjoying the salt in this thread. games were great 🤙
Funny thing. I've played the entire series and I enjoyed this one more than many others. I guess you can please millions of people even when angering cynics.
I mean the last generation starter did 14.69 million, so it's not like this is miles ahead
Please, stop with the hyperbole. This is just ignoring all the QoL and other stuffs added in SW and Sh
You're not wrong tho. The story was very lame. But I still had lots of fun with it. I mean I played already 175 hrs and actually don't know how I managed to do that. The raids are just addictive as hell and there are many very cool QoL improvements. I'm also very looking foreward to the DLCs
in my previous post i made the exception of the wii.
would a pokemon game have sold anywhere close to the handheld games if on Gamecube or wii u? not even close. even then, I think even the wii would be a stretch. perhaps pokemon is just on a rise thanks to other factors. I dont see how this means theres a correlation between the desire for console pokemon and sales
That's kind of my takeaway, both GameFreak and the fandom are transitioning into making Pokemon an MMO-lite. Probably a good way to keep engagement going longterm.
Maybe someday we can get a campaign as meaty as Platinum or Black/White 2 again.
All it's doing is proving to myself that staying out of Pokemon threads is still a good idea heh.
Eh... not really. By April 2014, X/Y sold 12M, it came out in October 2013. It wasn't anywhere close to what Sw/Sh did in 1.6 month.
Makes sure if a mainline Pokémon were announced for either GCN and Wii U it would attract some serious attention from the whole gaming community. I can't say it would outsell the portable games at the time, I'm no fortune teller, but claiming it would pass unnoticed doesn't make any sense. Neither this neutralize the (very big) demand for a console mainline title. This was discussed for ages everywhere.
Really, I don't get why you guys try to exclude the possibility that a console option for Sw/Sh boosted it's sales and shouldn't be something that Game Freak would have tried before.
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I stand by my comment, SwSh has the worst single player campaign of the whole series. Virtually no story, no sidequests, nothing to do in each town but going to the Gym, absolutely garbage pacing, bad characters (especially coming from the great SuMo).
I'm looking forward to it too!
Like I was expecting quite a response to lower sales. The fact it did better than I thought and the responses to it are as they are...it's a good morning
Sun & Moon is the last generation starter...
IIRC we don't actually have accurate sales numbers for Red and Blue.
Pokémon Sword and Shield is interesting in that it's a fun game, but every pre-release criticism of it was completely valid.
EVERYBODY WINS
Second worse gen for me. I feel like this game solidified that we are never getting real dungeons again. And twenty years later breeding is still boring.
EVERYBODY WINS
Second worse gen for me. I feel like this game solidified that we are never getting real dungeons again. And twenty years later breeding is still boring.
Did you forget Sun/Moon exist ?
Ah yes, refering to something without actually mentioning the word Console.
It sold so much that Game Freak never bothered to improve anyth- oh
Ooooooooooh!
To thing the series' sales themselves would go against the lazy dev rethoricists
Breeding's basically been unchanged for those 20 years. The only thing that's improved since then are minor QoL improvements.
Unfortunately, it feels like most of GF's attempts to fix the tedium of preparing for competitive battling are just time reduction instead of changing the mechanics to be more interesting.
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I mean your on era when someone says generation 9 times out of 10 they mean console, they probably just forgot.
This is just a communication mix up.
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I think this answers anybody's questions about the hows and whys regarding this game. They have no reason to revolutionize the formula until these are the sale numbers. It's the same as Call Of Duty or FIFA: the loud minority of people doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, expect big innovations only when sales are starting to plummet.
A split between the regions would be nice. Thought it was cool that it was 2/2/2 millions in its OW between EU/US/JP so I wonder how that 16 million is split now.
Huuuuge numbers regardless. Even in a 'weak' country for the Switch like the UK it was still what Nintendo's second or third highest opening week ever and on par with the highest selling PS4 exclusive (Spider-Man) too? They're doing great everywhere seemingly. Reversed the series' decline in Japan too. Looking forward to the DLC now.
And it was only a week before the games came out that I had the pleasure of conversing with at least one person here who was hoping that they would sell less than the LG games. That was certainly a silly thing to say in hindsight.
Huuuuge numbers regardless. Even in a 'weak' country for the Switch like the UK it was still what Nintendo's second or third highest opening week ever and on par with the highest selling PS4 exclusive (Spider-Man) too? They're doing great everywhere seemingly. Reversed the series' decline in Japan too. Looking forward to the DLC now.
And it was only a week before the games came out that I had the pleasure of conversing with at least one person here who was hoping that they would sell less than the LG games. That was certainly a silly thing to say in hindsight.
To people being snarky, please allow me to clarify: nobody ever thought the backlash would make a difference. That's kind of why it was such an upsetting situation. Because we knew that, no matter what choice GameFreak made, it would be reinforced by massive sales and they would move forward with that decision. We weren't sad that we wouldn't have all Pokemon in SWSH, we were sad because we wouldn't have all Pokemon ever again because it would sell well regardless.
Even aside from the controversy, this was a bottom tier Pokemon for me (I deliberately bought it used). It could have been absolute garbage-- there was no way that the first console Pokemon RPG would flop. People have been wanting this for over two decades, myself included. It just didn't happen in the way I wanted.
Even aside from the controversy, this was a bottom tier Pokemon for me (I deliberately bought it used). It could have been absolute garbage-- there was no way that the first console Pokemon RPG would flop. People have been wanting this for over two decades, myself included. It just didn't happen in the way I wanted.
30 millions imo. It's gonna keep selling strong decent throughout 2020 with strong boosts on June and Fall (dlc releases). By end of 2020 it will be above 25 millions probably.
I agree but on the other hand how do we know the backlash effect? I mean we only know how much it sold know, we don't know how much it would have sold without the backlash. For example I bought Let's Go Eevee day one but decided to skip this one. I can't be the only one and we all know of a few people who actually didn't buy the game because of the dexit. (for me it wasn't the dexit, there were other factor too and lack of communication from GF)
Pokemon gonna pokemon, Switch boost, Switch Lite co-current release, vouchers. This game pretty much had everything going in it's favour aside from Dexit which was never going to have a big enough effect anyway (At least the dexit campaign made them change their mind on the DLC at least, assuming we take PR by it's exact word.)
I love how people in this thread are saying First Console Game as well. If I hear anyone say they should stop creating new pokemon and just do Kanto over and over and over. I'm gonna point out how Sw/Sh outsold Let's Go life time sales in just 2 months, and can even double it's sales lifetime sales as well. I don't wanna even hear the Let's Go titles ushered ever again.
Now to see how much it does in the long run because this one has the edge it's not immediately going to have it's legs cut off like what happened with Sun and Moon with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.
(And I personally hope the DLC can improve the quality of the game and give it at least some cool areas to explore or cool story beats. It's going to slowly fix the pokemon problem in the long run hopefully.)
I love how people in this thread are saying First Console Game as well. If I hear anyone say they should stop creating new pokemon and just do Kanto over and over and over. I'm gonna point out how Sw/Sh outsold Let's Go life time sales in just 2 months, and can even double it's sales lifetime sales as well. I don't wanna even hear the Let's Go titles ushered ever again.
Now to see how much it does in the long run because this one has the edge it's not immediately going to have it's legs cut off like what happened with Sun and Moon with Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.
(And I personally hope the DLC can improve the quality of the game and give it at least some cool areas to explore or cool story beats. It's going to slowly fix the pokemon problem in the long run hopefully.)
Game Freak puts band aids on problems instead of overhauling or fixing them. Remember in Sun/Moon where they purposefully put a little enclave that you could spin around in next to the breeding center? Instead of fixing the main problems of breeding (heavily RNG based, limited gameplay interaction when it comes to hatching, time-wasting), they just let you spin in a box so you wouldn't have to go back and forth down one route.
"EVERYONE WILL THINK THIS IS FUN!" - Someone who hates me
I was afraid it was the wrong decision but now realise, it's the best thing they ever come up with
I would put it over XY lol. XY doesn't even have E4 rematches.
Story-wise gen 2 was actually pretty weak though even compared to gen 1 and then you had them adding Kanto.
There were certainly people that did. Even here there have been polls as well as people claiming that the games would sell less than Let's Go.
All of the games have an area near the Daycare for hatching eggs.
I don't think they're ever going to make breeding more interactive lol.
The worst part is that despite the ability to breed nearly every Pokémon with dozens of different Pokémon of various types and species, the only unique thing breeding provides is a few select inherited moves and the boring eugenics of IVs.
You'd think after two whole decades we'd be getting half Charmander/half Totodile hybrids or something like that, not just going from DVs to IVs.
I think people are forgetting that this generation of nintendo the handheld and the console are one so you are getting cross over sales. Some people who only bought the home consoles are now having access too the handheld games.
You take 2 separate platforms and you make them one platform then logical reasoning says you should get more sales for the games that were only on one or the other platform before.
The switch itself and pokemon being in peoples minds since 1998 are the reason for the sales. The quality of the game is not selling the game. Its the same with star wars. You know what traditions are? Things people do regardless just because that what they do. COD, madden, etc. people buy no matter what like pokemon but in this case you have one platform instead of 2.
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When you are in a pokemon thread 10/10 times generation means Pokemon Generation.
S&M sales aren't comparable to Sw/Sh's, either. S&M sold 16.18M by December 2019.
Why are you trying to say 3DS games sold on similar rate to Sh/Sw when this clearly isn't the case?