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Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Passes announced. 'Isle of Armor' coming June 2020 and 'The Crown Tundra' Fall 2020 (New 'mons, new areas) - US$30
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Liked it.
It won't fix any of the issues I had with the base game, but it's more than I expected.
I'm happy they're ditching the 'third version' model in favor of an expansion pass. I'm excited to see two entirely new areas with new characters to meet and places to explore and Pokémon to catch. I'm very pleasantly surprised that these new areas will allow full camera control everywhere. I like all the location art they showed. I love snow and snowy areas. I love the designs of the Pokémon and characters.
The only thing tempering my excitement is my disappointment with how the base game turned out, but these expansions need not be defined by that.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about these expansions as they get closer.
Liked it.
It won't fix any of the issues I had with the base game, but it's more than I expected.
I'm happy they're ditching the 'third version' model in favor of an expansion pass. I'm excited to see two entirely new areas with new characters to meet and places to explore and Pokémon to catch. I'm very pleasantly surprised that these new areas will allow full camera control everywhere. I like all the location art they showed. I love snow and snowy areas. I love the designs of the Pokémon and characters.
The only thing tempering my excitement is my disappointment with how the base game turned out, but these expansions need not be defined by that.
I'm looking forward to hearing more about these expansions as they get closer.
In your opinion, SwSh reviewed quite well and people seem happy for more of it.
It clearly didn't last if we look at this generation, but that's on Game Freak. Other developers (like Monolith Soft, Nintendo EPD, CDPR, etc.) can scale their games when they target more powerful platforms, but with Game Freak we keep getting less and less of what we used to ever since the 3DS. Now, we've to pay twice the price for in principle what we used to get. I'm not even talking about a third version, as even the base games used to have a ton of content for the postgame.
Yes, but they would release a new version for $60, so $120.
That was my fear lol
It's just that I can see they are starting to make the right choices regarding game design with this expansion content. New big wild area-like zones with new story content, focusing a bit more on exploration, expand the co-op with "dungeons", lots of new customization, ...
Now, I don't know how much of this is the new director or Masuda+Ohmori, but I'm seeing things that make me hopeful for future games.
Now, I don't know how much of this is the new director or Masuda+Ohmori, but I'm seeing things that make me hopeful for future games.
The female rival in the part 1 dlc for sword is cool.
Also seems to have a white hair bow that looks like a white dustox *thinking emoji*
To a degree. People are saying it's unfinished and rushed but it was still received well, the threads on here about it are still super active 3 months later. If people are still playing it they are not doing so begrudgingly 3 months after release, they would have dropped it and move on if the game was really as bad as the hyperbolic takes make it out to be. Could it be better? Absolutely. But people are still enjoying and actively playing the game.
The only scenario in where I'd expect to not have to "pay" for additional SwSh content is if they billed these DLC packs as an ostensible erratum to what was a serviceable but pretty half-baked main campaign.
That's not what they're doing here by focusing on brand new regions/stories, and the part of this update I would expect to be free actually is. Since the core of SwSh was never the problem, there's ample room for them to improve via that content as well, so I have no issue whatsoever with them charging content that was clearly conceptualized and built from scratch after the completion of the main game.
That's not what they're doing here by focusing on brand new regions/stories, and the part of this update I would expect to be free actually is. Since the core of SwSh was never the problem, there's ample room for them to improve via that content as well, so I have no issue whatsoever with them charging content that was clearly conceptualized and built from scratch after the completion of the main game.
I'll definitely buy Sword and Shield when the expac is all released, but it really does feel like this all should have been included in the main game. It's content that I think is worth $30, but given how light Sword and Shield appears, it really could have bolstered a more robust game.
"unfinished" has become the new "anti-consumer" on this board when it comes to terms being driven into the ground and losing all meaning
Why? A third version would have brought in less content than this expansion pack does
Isn't that part of the second DLC? That's what I imagine the "explorable Pokémon Dens" to be.
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dont forget the term Toxic, when referring to someone who disagrees with you
I haven't been grinding at all and I've spent close to 40 hours with the vanilla game, just getting my 8th badge, so I'm not done yet. They aren't my favorite Pokémon games of all time and they definitely do have pacing issues, but to say they are light on content is weird to me as I'm spending pretty much the same amount of time playing through the games as I did playing through the older games. Granted, I'm not a competitive player. Just talking about the campaign.
If this website had forum signatures every single one of my posts would end with "but only in my humble opinion"
And maybe some edgy pop-punk lyrics.
I think this is a big reason why they've moved to expansion passes. Selling two very similar $40 games back to back in a year was already pushing it. I guess they figured they wouldn't be able to convince fans to double dip on $60 titles.
If they released that erratum first and fixed the second half of the main game, you would not hear a single peep of complaint out of me about these expansions. I would just be excited about seeing new things. My criticism comes from selling these expansions when the base campaign remains in such a woefully poor state.
I admit, that was a great trailer. The way the artwork/concept art was used felt smooth and effective.
That aside, it's GameFreak so there are the usual concerns: price and quality, especially when taking the base game's rushed state into consideration
Only "half" of the price for this pass compared to previous 3rd editions falls a bit flat when the games are $60 now. $40 + $40 is less than $60 + $30.
"But what about Ultra Sun/Moon!" Yeh, what about comparing this to the exceptionally bad rip-offs by even poor Pkm standards?
That said, if these DLCs are high quality than the $30 can certainly feel alright, ignoring the base games' rushed state anyway. But how much hope is there on that when the story, mission design and much more was rubbish before?
That aside, it's GameFreak so there are the usual concerns: price and quality, especially when taking the base game's rushed state into consideration
Only "half" of the price for this pass compared to previous 3rd editions falls a bit flat when the games are $60 now. $40 + $40 is less than $60 + $30.
"But what about Ultra Sun/Moon!" Yeh, what about comparing this to the exceptionally bad rip-offs by even poor Pkm standards?
That said, if these DLCs are high quality than the $30 can certainly feel alright, ignoring the base games' rushed state anyway. But how much hope is there on that when the story, mission design and much more was rubbish before?
Either way I'm glad they're not doing a third version. Leave more time in the oven for whatever game they got brewing.
A feel like they made more of the girls knock-kneed in Galar. I notice it most with Gloria. It's one of my biggest design pet peeves. 😥 Maybe it just seems like it's more prevalent because Gloria is and Moon/Selene wasn't.
Fun design otherwise though. I also like her male counterpart a lot. Looks NB or GNC. I like the androgyny a lot.
Keep the DLC baking until they can add all the missing pokemon back into the games, maybe.
Maybe I did too good a job mocking them. No worries.
We all did by associating ourselves at all with Game Freak in the first place.
Do you seriously, SERIOUSLY, think people who have different opinions than you are getting paid by a multi-billion dollar company to defend their work? Is it not far more reasonable that you are in the minority of opinions, and a vast majority do not see the game as unfinished?
This isn't some 'we developed the DLC before launch but stuck it behind a paywall' BS. They literally didn't have enough in game footage for a real trailer. None (as far as I know) of the content teased today was found by hackers and data miners earlier.
Calm down.
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If you listen to the word choice in the trailer, it's a direct response to the perception of SwSh being barebones. They literally say they are still working on new features to add in the trailer.
I'm thinking this will be meaty.
Hmmm, I like this even better. Let me get those Ultra Beasts.
Nope, sorry. Both my X and Y have all 721 Pokemon in their boxes all the way up to Volcanion, who is #721. Yes, I transferred some from earlier gens but the games have a National Dex with all Pokemon up to that point. So there was a way to obtain them all as long as there was a National Dex in the game. The same goes for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as well.
Ha, fair enough -- I think it's a little unfair to include extra editions in the comparison but my statement set the comparison up.
I understand a bit of the confusion. TPC needs to name the expansions separately (Pokemon Sword Expansion Pass and Pokemon Shield Expansion Pass instead of Pokemon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass) to make sure people understand it's for both games but it adds a new layer of issues.
Making them into the Psychic-Dark-Fighting triangle would be awesome.
Yo, since they like to give Regigigas moves to represent the smaller Regis, it'll get Dragon in its coverage. PogU
This DLC seems pretty cool.
It will make Sword/Shield way better. It's still a ways off, so I still won't be playing much of the base game until then.
It will make Sword/Shield way better. It's still a ways off, so I still won't be playing much of the base game until then.
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...Yes. There are 721 total Pokémon and of those there are 595 CATCHABLE pokémon in the games.
On one hand, it's nice that they are finally going the true expansion route, instead of the terrible third version / improved sequel route.
On the other hand, with how barebones the main games were, it feels especially like a punch in the gut to see such expansions come so early. It kinda feels like the full game is 90$ :/
On the other hand, with how barebones the main games were, it feels especially like a punch in the gut to see such expansions come so early. It kinda feels like the full game is 90$ :/
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