They really should have included the gen 1 roms in this. But thats probably asking too much. Being able to play your Pokemon game on the TV and being able to speed the game up was cool.
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Pokémon Stadium is now available for Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack Users
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Lol I never knew this was a thing.
I probably put like 100 hours into this as a kid and never beat it.
Reason being, as a dumb kid I used rentals despite owning Blue and a Transfer Pak.
Same thing with 2 and owning Silver.
In my defence there was no point using my own Pokémon because I had a level 100 starter and nothing else.
OH it's definitely rigged against the player. The game seems to always know what you're going to do for the next move/Pokémon swap in round 2.
Oh fuck, I had completely forgotten this but I dropped my controller with Red in it on the glass table in our living room. Save was wiped and I was devastated as a dumb kid (still played Blue and Yellow all the way through and probably Red again as well)
That being the case, I really did just use rentals. Never played 2 and I really didn't know it was basically impossible to beat it with rentals. Knowing 1 is possible seems like kind of a fun challenge, really
I always have a controller in slot 2 with the pack instead of the controller in slot 1. I don't know if started doing it cause I lost data or not.
So you do understand.
This isn't hard. Middle of Pokemania. 90s. Pokemon game on the N64. In 3D with actual animations, much closer to the anime than the proper games. Easy access to multiplayer not requiring a second cart and you could battle your friends. Mini games.
Stadium 2 is perfectly possible as well, speedruns of both games use rentals exclusively. There are two important details to keep in mind:
1: If you get a continue (for beating an opponent without losing any Pokemon) you essentially have infinite continues, all you have to do is select to suspend your game, then continue your game and it lets you attempt the fight again without using your continue.
2: Fully evolved is not always best because their stats don't make up for garbage movesets. The best Pokemon are the likes of Kadabra (with great speed/attack and top movesets), or ones that have Explosion/Selfdestruct/Destiny Bond/Mirror Coat/Counter like Voltorb, Haunter, Graveler, Pineco Wobbuffet, Corsola etc. as they can guarantee OHKOs on Pokemon that would otherwise demolish you. With them you can turn a 3v3 into a straight 1v1 against an opponent's weakest Pokemon.
Rental only is actually the most interesting way to play the Stadium games, because usually the Pokemon you want to use are the ones that would otherwise be defined as useless.
You can hide the PAL apps. But maybe you are playing one of the European languages?
I forgot the total BS of some of Gen 1's mechanics lmao. It takes a while to get used to all the old typings of Pokemon and moves as well
It's not much you have to keep track of to be honest basically all you have to remember that there's no physical/special attack split, critical hits are tied to the speed stat of the Pokemon and Psychic Type Pokemon are the strongest Pokemon with Mewtwo being THE strongest Pokemon in the game.
149 of 151, Mew and Mewtwo aren't in rentals from what I remember, and some of the cups have their own restrictions on which pokemon you can bring as well. I think you can use Mew in Prime Cup R2, but Mewtwo ain't going to be available in Rentals.
Generally the Rentals were balanced around the best moves being given to the unevolved pokemon. Whilst the fully evolved tended to get either weaker moves or the stronger less accurate moves in comparison. A good example of this is Vulpix and Ninetales. Both get Confuse Ray and Dig, but Vulpix gets Flamethrower and Barrier whilst Ninetales gets Fire Spin and Bide.
The AI does not follow by these same rules and will have fully evolved pokemon with great movepools, especially in R2, so good luck with them.
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I actually remember getting a strategy guide back in the day for Pokémon Stadium 1 and 2 which comprehensively detailed how to beat the game with rentals. It was kind of wild how so much of it felt like gaming the system, or that it was even possible.
Did you miss the Doduo/Dotrio gameboy option? Grinded my Pokémon using that lol.
I'm really looking forward to getting back into those mini games. Spent so many nights with the family just on that mode.
Yes I can see for the time why it would be fun but I don't see the appeal of playing it today.
Imma be real with you, I don't think the Transfer Pak functionality is ever coming to Pokémon Stadium.
No, I played on that, I just never trained Pokémon properly to use them in Stadium's battles.
When I re-covered the game a few years back to improve the site's section, I got really frustrated with it because a fast Dragonair with Wrap basically stopped me doing literally anything.
All Pokémon are available through rentals. Different modes have different Rental Pokémon.
Got them all listed on Serebii if you want to have a browse
Playing this again is a full dose of nostalgia. This was my first pokémon game, as I didn't hava a game boy at that moment. Soon after I was gifted with Stadium I bought Pokémon Yellow. So many memories of the TV spots while I couldn´t believe how good Charizard was looking on 3D.
That said, I´m fine with the rental only Pokémon, even if it reduces the playable value of the game. The only thing that bothers me is that we wont be able to use Mewtwo without the GB games.
That said, I´m fine with the rental only Pokémon, even if it reduces the playable value of the game. The only thing that bothers me is that we wont be able to use Mewtwo without the GB games.
Similarly, last time I ventured into this game in the gym leader castle, onix just trapped my primeape in a bind loop for eternity
Good times!
That must've been well over a decade ago but the trauma remains
Apart from "ooh, everything is in 3D!", all of my big reasons to love Stadium are related to Gen 1 game connectivity, so they have no relation to the NSO version.
- In gen 1, where the games didn't really tell you anything, it was a massive information repository.
On GB, you get the move name, PP and (in battle) the type:
In Stadium, you get the full info - PP, type, power, accuracy and description:
- It simplified box management by a ton - you could move mons or entire boxes between games, reorder boxes easily, and transfer your mons around freely without having to wait for move animations.
To this day, Stadium is my favourite box management system in terms of sheer speed and accessibility, even more so than Stadium GS.
- You could store items from the GB games in Stadium, so all those TMs/vitamins/etc. that the pitiful in-game limitations won't let you keep. You can also transfer items between games, which isn't possible in the games themselves.
- It was the only way to get Surfing Pikachu, which also unlocked the Pikachu's Beach minigame in Yellow.
That's some good info. I figured it couldn't have been literally impossible. I think I reremember seeing movesets being worse on final stages and the OHKO technique on that guy's youtube show where he's trying to beat every N64 game.
Thanks!
That was how the real N64 champion was decided, none of that silly Mario Kart or GoldenEye
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seWx4jxwLXE
Presentation wise, this holds up surprisingly well considering the few things it still tops the main series on.
Played this last night and those mutherfuckin computers gettin in my way and stealing my combos out from under meeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spent a lot of time as a kid with the minigames. Otherwise this game isn't stellar.
More and more, though, I'm considering subscribing to the Expansion Pass. My dream was to always have all first-party Nintendo games playable in some official form on modern consoles, and we're getting closer and closer to that goal. (DS and 3DS will be harder if not impossible, of course, but still.)
More and more, though, I'm considering subscribing to the Expansion Pass. My dream was to always have all first-party Nintendo games playable in some official form on modern consoles, and we're getting closer and closer to that goal. (DS and 3DS will be harder if not impossible, of course, but still.)
Could never master the Drowzee minigame even now lol.
Got up to the Elite 4 now in the Gym Leader challenge though with rentals.
Got up to the Elite 4 now in the Gym Leader challenge though with rentals.
I need to dig out my transfer pak and buy that n64 controller for the Switch. I'm sure no one has made this joke.
The animations for the Pokemon are still very impressive, as is the way they made the GB cries sound like actual animal noises while still being recognizable as their GB cries
This is the biggest failure of Pokemon games since gen 6. Pokemon lost so much expressiveness in their animations since the games went properly into 3D.
The 3D Pokemon games leading all the way up to Battle Revolution all had Pokemon animated in such a lively manner.
The early Pokemon cries retaining their 8-bit audio quality is also really bizarre to me. Stadium made them sound so much better, so why not reuse them when the technology allowed for it?
Round 1 is actually good with rental Pokemon. It feels like it was actually balanced around them while round 2 was designed for the rental Pokemon. While it's still a shame a large part of the game is missing, it's still a good play even without transferring anything. The same can't be said for Stadium 2.
Playing through it now. Got through to the Fuchsia Gym in the Gym Leader Caslte. Rentals make this very tough, but im gonna try to beat it all. It's annoying when some fully evolved Pokemon have worse attacks than the pre-evolutions.
The Ekans minigame is really fiddly on a pro controller…
Hard to hold the controller and flicking the stick isn't as easy as the N64
Hard to hold the controller and flicking the stick isn't as easy as the N64
One of the few voices I can close my eyes and hear perfectly in my head. I'm 37 and haven't played this game since the N64 days and it is clear as day.
I played my first Pokemon RPG (Yellow) through Stadium using the N64 Transfer Pak. I never thought to ask for a Gameboy until Gold/Silver came out (and never got one, my Dad just set up an emulator on our Windows 98 PC).
I don't think I played Pokemon portably until GBA like 5 years after my first experience with it.
I don't think I played Pokemon portably until GBA like 5 years after my first experience with it.
Gonna try at least beating Round 1 with the rentals. I never did when I owned the game on N64 despite playing the hell out of it.
I don't know if I can touch Round 2 until (fingers crossed) R/B/Y transfer pak support is added in. These rental movesets are awful.
I don't know if I can touch Round 2 until (fingers crossed) R/B/Y transfer pak support is added in. These rental movesets are awful.