I feel like it would be a completely different game at that point and would further lead into the idea 1) she isnt the main character or 2) its not P5 base with FeMC
P3P's scenario was reworked because it actually had a FeMC version of the original story. Marie wasn't playable in P4G, but was retrofitted to be significant to the story (and proved to be fairly divisive).I haven't followed P3P or P4 The Golden closely, so I don't know how stuff like this was handled in the past, but inserting a new (playable? as in party member) character into the story would change the game on a fundemantal level, at least from a story perspective?
This is the first I've heard of it.She's talking to Akechi. She could be lying.
And if you think she's an antagonist what do you make of the Smash datamine?
He does but introducing a character by having them speak for themselves and express strong opinions kinda goes against the Persona protagonist tone.
Yeah, sounds dope.Yo that idea sounds so clean. I really hope it is something like this now. Imagine if this were an Eternal Punishment like game where the perspective is from a different group with some crossover from the original cast in the manner that you proposed. The idea alone is tantalizing.
I feel like it would be a completely different game at that point and would further lead into the idea 1) she isnt the main character or 2) its not P5 base with FeMC
Yeah a bunch of consoles sold but software was pretty much dead.
Did you watch the trailer
I just took a couple minutes and looked at some of the awakening scenes from 5 showing the in game characters and how they look and honestly this trailer don't look as big a leap as I had in my head. Guess it's been awhile since I saw 5 in action.What you're theorizing would be completely at odds with the two spinoffs we got for P3, and the spinoff we got for P4.
you're saying it "feels like too much effort" but atlus has literally done it three times already, and is doing a similar naming convention here that indicates this is more of the same.
Actually would now be a decent time to make a thread about the "Jane" datamine?
I wanted to when it first cropped up but after talking with people we decided it was to vague at the time.
Now we have an actual conection and I'm wondering if it's worth it's own thread of discussion.
Actually would now be a decent time to make a thread about the "Jane" datamine?
I wanted to when it first cropped up but after talking with people we decided it was to vague at the time.
Now we have an actual conection and I'm wondering if it's worth it's own thread of discussion.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be dense, but Do you mean the rpg genre? If so, yeah that totally lends itself to the idea that it's the fes-golden update. But like I said it could be a rpg spinoff. A game where you team up with Akechi and solve crimes like LA Noire and you level up and get new abilities to deduce when people are lying and stuff. There's lots you could do with an rpg spinoff.
I'm not trying to argue with you haha I just don't see the reasoning behind updated the visuals this much this soon on the same platform. That feels like too much effort.
Edit : I saw you edit about p4 golden graphic upgrade. That's true, I just think this p5 upgrade could be far larger. I just don't see the reasoning from their perspective to do it? Seems like a waste of resources.
Do itttActually would now be a decent time to make a thread about the "Jane" datamine?
I wanted to when it first cropped up but after talking with people we decided it was to vague at the time.
Now we have an actual conection and I'm wondering if it's worth it's own thread of discussion.
I just took a couple minutes and looked at some of the awakening scenes from 5 showing the in game characters and how they look and honestly this trailer don't look as big a leap as I had in my head. Guess it's been awhile since I saw 5 in action.
I was just so impressed visually when the two dancing games came out that I thought there'd be no way they could have those visuals in an updated 5 this quickly but I think it's possible looking at it now.
That was my only holdback from thinking this was A fes-golden game, was how much effort it would take to get those graphics. My bad dude sorry haha I guess I should have looked at the original game before posting what I thought it looked like in my head.
Yeah, I think people are jumping the gun when it comes to the Smash leak. Might not be relevant tbh.
I didn't take the screenshot, lol. But yeah, I dunno. They explicitly made it out that Joker is the one that was announced, it wouldn't make sense for her to be the default considering Joker is the only one that appears in the announcement trailer and all the promo material surrounding his inclusion into Smash so far. That's even assuming she's FeMC. If she's her own character entirely that isn't affiliated with the Phantom Thieves then it would make even less sense for her to appear.Feels a bit weird to quote this instead of the actual post but what if Joker isn't the CSS default? Maybe Sakurai would wanna have another female character displayed by default, or maybe Atlus pressured them into putting the Brand New Character front and center for marketing purposes?
She could also be the 6th or 7th alt, like Zero Suit Samus's latter costumes, or like Alph, where it's divided straight down the middle.
(also I think she's gonna be called Jack which might play into Joker not actually being the primary character)
makoto is queenIf the title is a reference to the Royal Flush then we could see a party featuring members named after a straight flush, namely ace, king, queen, jack, and ten.
Jack would naturally be the female MC, and of all the characters to come back for a potential sequel/standalone RPG, Makoto would make a lot of sense, though it'd be awesome if it was Sae instead.
Ace, King, Jack and Ten would be trickier, especially the last one, though most of them would be new characters (a cynical part of me thinks this sort of move would be for merchandising potential). If it takes place concurrently with P5, then I could see Ace being You-Know-Who, running some sort of anti-Phantom Thief operation. Which'd be a little out of character but I will not be surprised if Atlus goes on a redemption rollercoaster with him.
But yeah it's fun speculating, to the extent I'm gonna be a little bummed out if it is just a FeMC route
I always thought the naming convention was off on it since there is apparently only one instance of the pony tail, there is a "." In the filename which would suggest other extensions, and its in the 6th slot rather than 2nd or 5th or even 8th for that matter
Yeah man I'm well aware of the previous games getting updates. To me they all visually look quite similar even if golden got a bit of an upgrade. I just was expecting the game to look visually almost indentical to 5 while containing new events and maybe a social link or 2 not a graphics upgrade like I had thought in my head. But it's all cleared up :)To give some context to that P4 upgrade, P4 Golden was originally intended to be a PSP game, and a DOWNGRADE from the base game. The graphical upgrades you see there were implemented in a couple of months when development was shifted to Vita.
Obviously it's not a waste of resources- it's not quite "free money" for Atlus, but it's close. P3FES, P3P, and P4G were all exactly the kinds of upgrades to the base game I'm talking about, all were received positively, and therefore Atlus keeps doing them.
Especially in a situation where this could simply be done via DLC (as opposed to a retail release which was necessary for all of the other ones), Atlus is in a position to rake in a lot of profit for what would be very little work- the fanbase routinely buys these things and has been asking for exactly this kind of upgrade since the day P5 came out. Do a google search for "Persona 5 crimson" to see what I mean.
This really doesn't mean anything because multiple Smash alternate costumes don't follow this specific pattern for outright model swaps (which makes sense given how we now know that Jane isn't just "girl Joker", her costumes would be further back, the same way Alph is in the back half of Olimar's outfits, because her name most likely won't be "Joker"). On top of that, these datamined parameters are all in-progress and the costume placements may not be final.
This really doesn't mean anything because multiple Smash alternate costumes don't follow this specific pattern for outright model swaps (which makes sense given how we now know that Jane isn't just "girl Joker", her costumes would be further back, the same way Alph is in the back half of Olimar's outfits, because her name most likely won't be "Joker"). On top of that, it's all a WIP and the costume placements wouldn't be final.
Ann never made sense for this. Now that we have a female character with a ponytail, it's practically confirmed.
Clearly not. If it were, there wouldn't be much point to only confirming PS4.What's irritating is that I've been waiting to play Person 5. But I dont know if I should play it now or hold off. Is Royal the full game with more content? Is the rumored Switch version really a thing? Because if so, the portability is a big selling point for such a long game for me. I guess I'll continue to hold off until there is more clarity.
Could change to that when localized (much like not using "The Golden" for P4G).
That might be the title here. P4G was called Persona 4: The Golden in Japan.
I didn't take the screenshot, lol. But yeah, I dunno. They explicitly made it out that Joker is the one that was announced, it wouldn't make sense for her to be the default considering Joker is the only one that appears in the announcement trailer and all the promo material surrounding his inclusion into Smash so far. That's even assuming she's FeMC. If she's her own character entirely that isn't affiliated with the Phantom Thieves then it would make even less sense for her to appear.
makoto is queen
ann is panther
ryuji is skull
futaba is oracle
Haru is noir
Yusuke is fox
if she is a femc she has the wild card and will be another joker, probably
Final Smashes aren't dictated by costumes, so this makes no senseExcept if Joker's final smash is their: "All out attack", it's likely Ann will show up. Who has ponytails.
First off that's not how that file works I'm guessing.Except if Joker's final smash is their: "All out attack", it's likely Ann will show up. Who has ponytails.
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