We don't always agree, but you're absolutely right, she should have stepped down. The fear we've lived in as a result of her random health issues is more than a lot of us should have had to deal with and heaven forbid something did happen, it'd be highly problematic at this time.
I've already said I'm voting for Biden. I don't dislike Biden for the way he treats me personally. I dislike Biden for the way he treats black Americans, Palestinians, illegal immigrants, Yemeni citizens, Iraqis, Libyans, victims of police brutality and more. If Americans actually gave a shit about the imperial machine that wrecked havoc across the world pretty much no current Dem would have their job.
A lot of Americans do in fact give a shit. There is also next to nothing they can do about it in this system.
They do not. It's not just at a presidential level but for local races too. The amount of representatives that are actually outspoken about how terrible the US is overseas are the vast minority (like 5 out of 200+). If it was as many as you think then the ghoul hawks wouldn't keep winning elections.
If they cared they would back candidates that actually give a shit. But they don't. They don't care about politics until it's time to pick between a red or blue
It won't be forever because humans aren't forever. The question is whether or not we'll get rid of it ourselves or if ecological collapse will do it for us.
I admire the optimism but there just isn't a way forward that would make it happen. As frustrating as it might be the Supreme Court works for what functions it provides.
Okay. If Trump wins, there is zero chance of it going away by getting rid of it ourselves.
Same reason I made the thread. 'progressives' more concerned with getting what they want or taking their ball and going home, than trying to save the damn country.
Nobody in here has said they're not voting for Biden. It would be nice to discuss the politics of voting, campaigns and the state of the US without this type of shit in every thread.
I mean people are literally fearing for their lives being determined in a month in a half right now, so it's a hard thing to discussed about why Biden is apparently "debatably as bad"
It's not really optimism. Or rather, it's not optimism in that I think it will happen, but in that I think it needs to happen. What we do now isn't sustainable, and we need to change. I'm skeptical of electoralism because it's designed to prevent much change. Why else would they have the Supreme Court, presidency, House of Representatives and Senate? Other than to slow down any progress via bureaucracy.
Possibly, but I mean, I don't feel any enthusiasm voting for Biden. Maybe I'll vote for him, but it's not a vote I'd be proud of making, as it'd almost make it seem like I'd be endorsing whatever he does as president, including militaristic actions abroad.
Considering how hard people hammer that point for Trump and how they're responsible for everything he does, I think that's an opinion people do genuinely hold here.
Oh, that's rich. To clarify I was just laughing at your thread derail.
M4A is going to be a fucking CAKEWALK with a conservative majority Supreme Court. Progressive wonderland here we come!
Do you have a blueprint to tear down the system before November?
How did I derail the thread? I quoted a post saying someone got mad at saying Biden wasn't good enough and I said agreed. Where is the derail there?
It would hopefully be stacking the court but I don't think Biden is for that unfortunately. I know Warren does and I think Sanders was wishy-washy about it. The idea that Republicans can bend all the norms for Garland and we shouldn't do the same is silly. Stacking the court isn't illegal!
I think our best case scenario is we drop the pretense and just make the Court outwardly partisan. It already is and has been for anyone remotely paying attention so just make it when we have a dem president and senate we stack progressive justices and then when Republicans take power they'll stack it with their judges etc. and it just rotates.
What I'm saying is, that you can't simultaneously say that voting for Biden means you don't endorse everything he does while saying that voting for Trump does. Well, I guess unless you're speaking from a personal standpoint, which I did. I'm not saying necessarily that voting for Biden means you endorse everything he'll do, but for me personally that's how voting for someone, especially if they win, feels. In the elections I've voted for though, the candidate I chose lost, so maybe I wouldn't feel that way, I don't know though since it's never happened.
You need Biden to win first before you worry about which judges he'll appoint to the SC.
Voting for a candidate means you're voting for that candidate to win. It doesn't mean you agree with every last thing they say or do. If you don't vote Biden, you are giving a vote to Trump.
Wow, that was a pretty big whiplash there. Is the implication there that I am responsible for what happens if Trump wins? That'd seem to negate the very first sentence of your statement.
At this point, stacking feels like common sense. It's going to happen inevitably with the court as blatantly partisan as it is and the masks of decorum off.
The point is that discussing who Biden might add to the SC is not relevant. At the least, he won't appoint someone who will definitely try to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Of course, these are people who unironically use "orange man bad" to characterize and then minimize a substantial chunk of Trump critique while also unironically posting "Biden dementia" memes...but then generating bizarro world whiplash by championing super progressive causes.
The future is irrelevant.
