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GK86

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Oct 25, 2017
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Link.

Vice President Mike Pence announced Thursday that the Pentagon has begun planning to create a Space Force, making it the first new armed service since 1947.

In June, Trump called for the establishment of a sixth armed service, the Space Force, to join the Air Force, Army, Marine Corps, Navy and Coast Guard. Thursday's plan, which requires authorization and funding from Congress, would develop forces to defend satellites from attack and other space-related tasks.

"The time has come to establish the United States Space Force," Pence said.

The force would be created by 2020, Pence said, after interim steps that include establishing the U.S. Space Command, which will be led by a four-star officer and draw forces from the other armed services.

When the proposal for a separate force was launched last year, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis resisted it. He wrote to Congress that it would "likely present a narrower and even parochial approach to space operations."

But Mattis signaled earlier this week that establishing a combatant command was a possibility.

"We need to address space as a developing war fighting domain and a combatant command is certainly one thing that we can — we can establish," Mattis told reporters. "This is a process we're in. We are in complete alignment with the president's concern about protecting our assets in space that contribute to our security, to our economy. And we're going to have to address it as other countries show a capability to attack those assets."
 

belushy

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Oct 25, 2017
272
I like the idea, but we're like 10-15 years too early.... and that is me being optimistic as hell.
 

Bishop89

What Are Ya' Selling?
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Oct 25, 2017
34,916
Melbourne, Australia
US govt been playing too much Cod

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MetatronM

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Oct 25, 2017
5,851
Nobody has yet to say what a Space Force would actually DO. Or how they would do it. We don't even have a space shuttle right now.
 

Abstrusity

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Oct 27, 2017
2,656
We all know it's going to be used in violation of international law, to put weapons platforms in space.
 

Nivash

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Oct 25, 2017
1,464
Have anyone, anywhere, bothered to present what this space force is supposed to do and why it can't do that as part of the USAF? Or is this yet another example of Trump's cabinet rushing to retcon what's basically another of his impulses?
 

Mesoian

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Oct 28, 2017
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Being a Recruiter for the Space Force is going to be such an easy job.

The washout numbers are going to be (wait for it)....ASTRONOMICAL!

Seriously though the amount of people who join this thing thinking their going to be piloting mechs and can't make it through basic is going to be ultra high.
 

Marossi

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,997
Wow. Are they really going to do this? It makes you wonder if they had some contact with aliens and they aren't making it public and think now that they had contact they need a new army to prepare for Space stuff. Anything other than this explanation is literally waste of money.
 

Masoyama

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Oct 27, 2017
5,648
It will probably needed someday. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree with this. However, the focus on space should be about developing new human-capable vehicles and missions. Probes and drones are great for science, but we need to have inspiration to motivate new blood, and what is more motivating than actually going to space?
 

steejee

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Oct 28, 2017
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I feel like the 'by 2020' part is almost like a confession that they're worried if it's not ready by then it'll just be nixed after the election by (hopefully) Trump's replacement.

The only way I could see a 'Space Force' making sense would be to fold it into the Air Force as a sub-command (like the the Marines to the Navy) and then migrate any space related ops across the branches to this sub-command.
 

Downhome

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Oct 27, 2017
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I have no problem with laying the groundwork for this right now even if it's a decade or so early. May as well be ready for what is likely the inevitable future and plan for it now instead of waiting and falling behind. It wouldn't shock me if other countries are in the process of doing so as well.

I'm just not sure what all it will entail in the meantime.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
38,435
Sometimes I think this is in response to the rich going "well, we know we've fucked up the planet beyond repair, and our lineage is going to need to fuck off the planet eventually sooooo we might need some soldiers in space."
 

Bonejack

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Oct 27, 2017
16,654
So, health care is too expensive, yet an armed force to defend the USA against ... what ... junk satellites falling back to earth (?) ... is a totally viable proposal for government funding?
 

Tempy

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Oct 25, 2017
3,334
Instead of working together in space we're going to have to fight each other for every molecule of resources are we?
 

Orion

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,840
Does this mean the aliens are coming?

Trump is going to piss them off and get us all killed isn't he
 

Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
6,119
Another way to fuck with other countries and divert our tax money from shit we actually need right now, yay.
 

Maquiladora

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Nov 16, 2017
5,136
Remember this all started with an off script joke from Trump during a speech. But because he was mocked so much for it, he doubled down and now it's actually going to be a real thing.
 

Like the hat?

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Oct 25, 2017
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If they're going to throw more money at military shit at least this might put a greater focus on space exploration
 

daveo42

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Oct 25, 2017
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The best thing that could actually come out of this is more funding for NASA and space exploration in general, though I bet if funding does increase, it'll have caveats that it can't be used for environmental research. Cause you know, climate change is a hoax.
I doubt it gets off the drawing board.
It won't, but you totally know they'll spend billions of dollars on that single drawing board.
 

RionaaM

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Oct 25, 2017
1,852
Don't these fuckers realize how ridiculous they appear to the rest of the world? Or do they simply not care?

I have no problem with laying the groundwork for this right now even if it's a decade or so early. May as well be ready for what is likely the inevitable future and plan for it now instead of waiting and falling behind. It wouldn't shock me if other countries are in the process of doing so as well.

I'm just not sure what all it will entail in the meantime.
I'd like to think other countries are busy with real problems, but maybe you're right...
 

Advance_Alarm

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Dec 4, 2017
316
Can we have space TSA next?

"You can't bring that item on board sir. Do you know what the fuck you can do with 4oz of toothpaste in space?"

I'm ready.