Yeah, but why would anyone listen to us? We actually play games on PC. Those that kept saying Epic was good for PC gaming only play on console. Obviously they know more about the PC market than we do.
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PC Gaming ERA | May 2019 - Romance of the Three Storefronts
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And the media who are supposed to be reporting on it get their game codes for free, so prices aren't a concern for them....
Friendship with Ajax ending.
Now Spurs are my best friend.
huh??
EGS exclusives being removed from other stores isn't some Nostradamus revelation... that's what the entire word exclusive means
I was pretty naive about this until I jumped in to PC gaming a few weeks ago, thinking it was a storm in a teacup.
But now I realise - especially as a Big Picture user - that Steam isn't just a digital store or a launcher, it's an entire platform. Xbox gamers would be pissed off if a new game came out that they couldn't launch using a controller, doesn't have any Achievements, doesn't use your Xbox Live account, doesn't store its saves in the cloud, doesn't have the Guide accessible during gameplay, doesn't let you play with your friends list, etc. But that's what we have here.
It's "Put the boot into gaming media" time again, though just a mild criticism this time around, as it's the English grammar pedant and media critic in me:
A full collection of Artifact cards now reportedly costs around $40
The "reportedly" is absolutely unnecessary, because they've confirmed it::
So, unless they're doubting the accuracy of the Artifact tracking site, the "reportedly" has no reason being in the headline - it's a fact, and should be stated as such. And if they are doubting the accuracy of the site, they should say so.
And, yes, it's a teeny-tiny criticism, but it's just basic bloody English language and framing of a headline. Lord!
A full collection of Artifact cards now reportedly costs around $40
The "reportedly" is absolutely unnecessary, because they've confirmed it::
So, unless they're doubting the accuracy of the Artifact tracking site, the "reportedly" has no reason being in the headline - it's a fact, and should be stated as such. And if they are doubting the accuracy of the site, they should say so.
And, yes, it's a teeny-tiny criticism, but it's just basic bloody English language and framing of a headline. Lord!
That is why I think a lot of people "rooting" for Epic do not even use Steam or maybe just to start games.
My wife is using my shared library.
I am using the Steam market, VR plattform, BPM and Workshop as well as achievements and cloud saves (since I travel to China and back twice a year).
Sounds like the Phoenix Point mess all over again. Are they giving you the option to refund?
I really wish someone would initiate a class action lawsuit for these kind of situations. How about the platform you said you would provide, day one?
Remember when I was a crazy complotist when I said that the cut would mean higher priced games, that it would lead to tighter or even no more 3rd party stores ?
These people can fuck off anyway.
I mean, fuckin hypocrites clapped when Sony made that "how to share a game" video, claiming they won the console war.
Now sharing a game is a "useless feature".
Exactly. In fact I'll echo the sentiment from Durante or Dusk Golem : A looot of console warring going on. A lot of these people when you look at their post history often wander in the switch threads, ps4 threads, xbox threads. You never see them in PC related thread except when it's EGS.
Because the thinking is that if something makes Steam worse, it disrupt the platform, hence making it weaker. A weaker platform is one less likely to be supported.
These console only games now on PC ruffles a lot of feathers. And let's not be fuckin hypocrite. It's on these boards we had people physically ill that Final Fantasy X was coming to PC.
It's thinly veiled console warring disguised under the concern trolling of people who never use the platform in a regular way as legitimate customers (I'm not going to out people who use it as a side platform for piracy here :) ). Concern trolls who knows better than us what's good for us.
Yet it's the same people whining about Capcom not making a physical switch version or championing PlayStation for that share a game video.
Hypocrisy and console warring through the roof.
It would be laughed out of court (or more likely lawyer's offices because it would never get there). You can't even really sue crowdfunding campaigns for flat out never delivering on the product at all.
The Phoenix Point kerfuffle showed Epic are happy to buy off anyone and make the problem go away. Fig.co should be ashamed and cut ties but we know they don't care and an epic compliant media say nothing. It's probably fraud but no one cares.
What if a Steam key is provided one year after release?
I don't believe one could sue any of the game devs on Kickstarter for delivering the game much later than promised.
Or people would sue Volantia devs for never giving a Steam key to Humble subscribers:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/799670/discussions/0/1694920442944848232/
Headline looks perfect to me. The journalist didn't investigate the pricing themselves, but instead used unverified data from another party. The headline accurately reflects the fact that these are the numbers only as reported by 'How Much Does Artifact Cost'.
Having the headline 'A full collection of Artifact cards now costs..." would be bad practice, because it reports something as fact that the journalist has not verified.
There is a conflict of interest between Epics conditions and the original intent of the Fig kickstarter - yet the backers who carried the initial risk and weight are being pushed aside because Epic are stepping in at the last minute. I understand there would be a lot of unintentional consequences to litigating kickstarters, but this kind of action goes on by without any real consequence and its somewhat frustrating to see Epic cherry pick games so close to release. All of these restrictions are completely arbitrary - they can have their cake and eat it too.
I'm a bit confused because I've seen the devs call it 'our VR game Away', but on Steam there's no mention of VR.
Looks pretty interesting.
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Which implies that the author has checked the site to verify this information. That said, though there's no press release from the site that is linked to or quoted, on second read I think you're right, and PC Gamer were sent something from the tracking site and they regurgitated it, which would make the "reportedly" accurate.
I've had this on my wishlist since february. Looks like Sony just bought console exclusivity?
New Ghost Recon being expensive and not on third party stores
That site is just something that a random person made. It is not an official or original source of information that you can use for verification. In order for a journalist to communicate things as facts, they have to know they are such, and, in this case, unless they spend the time doing the sums themselves, they can't be certain that the information on that site is correct and reliable.
Which is all fair enough. But in that case, where's the value of reporting it? "Here's this thing which may or may not be true. We don't know because we haven't spent 3 hours checking the sums on the Steam Market, so, hey, it might not be accurate" isn't exactly a great article. :/ Media is supposed to inform and enlighten, and this article does neither. Or, at least, doesn't do either without the reader expending time and effort to verify. Which is also supposed to be the media's job.
They give you the option of saying, "No thanks," to receiving a key for an "unannounced platform" at a later date and then... nothing. So I'm assuming they'll quietly send emails out? I don't know. I'm getting a fucking refund one way or the other and I'll buy the game during next year's Summer Sale if I'm still excited for it.
Not a problem. Would rather the game go to someone who would enjoy it rather than sit in my library and never get touched.
Enjoy.
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Back and I'd like to share what PC gaming thing I've been doing.
FREE/EXPERMENTAL GAMES!!!!!!! I've been into sampling these since early 2011 and every now and then I find a new article/writer to follow regarding this.
Priceless Pay by Kat Brewster @ RPS.
Read the entire series, as each entry is focused on a theme rather than simply what is new. Therefore the quality of the entries are pretty consistently good.
A Bewitching Revolution is my favorite out of all of what I've played.
Back and I'd like to share what PC gaming thing I've been doing.
FREE/EXPERMENTAL GAMES!!!!!!! I've been into sampling these since early 2011 and every now and then I find a new article/writer to follow regarding this.
Priceless Pay by Kat Brewster @ RPS.
Read the entire series, as each entry is focused on a theme rather than simply what is new. Therefore the quality of the entries are pretty consistently good.
A Bewitching Revolution is my favorite out of all of what I've played.
I know I'm VERY late to the party (i got myself into too much mess lately and don't really have time to follow forums anymore), but I repeat again - they had their chance with UT4, and they decided it was not worth it, so fuck them. New UT is the reason why I have epic account in the first place, so all this EGS crap and exclusivity news really annoys me every time because they always remind me about what epic did to UT, they literally killed it on the day EGS was announced. I understand that after Fortnite success they don't really have resources anymore and can't even develop a proper launcher because they are too busy crunching next update, but ffs they can always spend few millions from their war chest and hire other studios to make a proper UT game, instead of wasting them on this pointless war against the Steam. So yeah, I probably won't ever touch their launcher again, fuck this company and their endless greed, it's hard to imagine that just a year ago I was rooting for them and hoped they'll succeed.
These devs that try to screw over backers with EGS keys when they know everyone wants a Steam / GoG key are a special kind of asshole.
The whole reason the game is happening is because people cared enough to give you cash upfront. It's a serious dick move to turn around and abuse that goodwill.
The whole reason the game is happening is because people cared enough to give you cash upfront. It's a serious dick move to turn around and abuse that goodwill.
I wouldn't be surprised if future crowdfunded games are forced to specify if they will remain committed to Steam or if they will go wherever the money is.
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