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PC Gaming Era | July 2018 - Where the Duffs are Whales and the Slashes are Grizzlies
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Really? You don't understand why people want a bunch of games that come free with something mostly everyone has anyway? There are some bangers in there dude.
Probably in murica. because rest of world don't exist. Apart from UK/France/Germany, probably zero countries get anything out of Prime and still has to pay full price.
Though I guess you could use free trial to get all the free games once, that'd be good value I guess.
So, it turns out that Valve killed SteamSpy not due to GDPR or some other noble reason, but probably just out of spite:
The guy above invented an algorithm which allowed to estimate the number of players of a given game on Steam based on the numbers of people having certain achievements (which is a completely open information not related to GDPR or privacy in general in any way). This algorithm worked for a few months, but Valve has just killed it (by rounding some numbers), clearly intentionally. Which means that probably the original algorithm which SteamSpy used was rendered useless by Valve not because of GDPR or other privacy reasons (like many people on this forum said), but because they decided that SteamSpy is bad for their busieness or caved in from the pressure from the large publishers.
Rami Ismail chiming in:
Some other responses by devs of smaller games:
https://twitter.com/antumbral/status/1014428682524418049
This is probably worthy of its own thread.
The guy above invented an algorithm which allowed to estimate the number of players of a given game on Steam based on the numbers of people having certain achievements (which is a completely open information not related to GDPR or privacy in general in any way). This algorithm worked for a few months, but Valve has just killed it (by rounding some numbers), clearly intentionally. Which means that probably the original algorithm which SteamSpy used was rendered useless by Valve not because of GDPR or other privacy reasons (like many people on this forum said), but because they decided that SteamSpy is bad for their busieness or caved in from the pressure from the large publishers.
Rami Ismail chiming in:
Some other responses by devs of smaller games:
https://twitter.com/antumbral/status/1014428682524418049
This is probably worthy of its own thread.
You get my point. Free trials exist for those that don't have it.
New deal every hour but it lasts 24h. Definitively getting Moonlighter at -25% when I get home.
I can understand how Valve doesn't want a tool that might tell people how poorly some games are doing to exist, but I wish they wouldn't outright lie about it, like talking how they wanna make Steamspy better.
A simple "no comment" is nothing to be ashamed about.
A simple "no comment" is nothing to be ashamed about.
Yeah, precisely. The lying part is what irks me. Now it's reasonably clear that they didn't really care of any privacy reasons like many believed, they just decided to kill SteamSpy.
Is Life is Strange 2 likely to get any cheaper before luanch, can't see me preordering a game that I don't even know what its about yet
I hope we have some kind of super power in LiS 2. I know a lot of people like the more grounded setting of Before the Storm, but I prefer non natural things.
No, I really don't. Prime is a non-entity outside of US of A.
Also, what's the difference in abusing the free trial to get the free games vs using pirate sites to get free games?
Amazon Prime is the Humble Monthly of physical goods: you pay a subscription which provides you with incentives to stay in their ecosystem for every other purchase. It is too expensive imo. How much money do you have to spend on their store to make a 50€/year subscription worth it?
Yeah, I just played through it once getting every character. It's easy to see though how they provisioned the different paths for different characters.
People will probably argue that one is legal and one is not, but really, that's pretty weak reasoning.
Amazon Prime is the Humble Monthly of physical goods: you pay a subscription which provides you with incentives to stay in their ecosystem for every other purchase. It is too expensive imo. How much money do you have to spend on their store to make a 50€/year subscription worth it?
There's Prime Jeunes. 25€ per month.
Surely GMG will have a 25% off voucher between now and September. Don't see a point in preordering a game we now nothing about.
I live in Germany and Prime is totally worth it here. I get back what I pay for it just in free shipping, Prime deals and game preorder discounts alone. And on top it has a good streaming service that is cheaper than Netflix alone. And now the free games program that rivals PS+ and Humble Monthly too.
One is illegal and the other not? And how is using a free trail abusing it.
I live in Germany and Prime is totally worth it here. I get back what I pay for it just in free shipping, Prime deals and game preorder discounts alone. And on top it has a good streaming service that is cheaper than Netflix alone. And now the free games program that rivals PS+ and Humble Monthly too.
One is illegal and the other not? And how is using a free trail abusing it.
Top Sellers 2018 (so far)
https://store.steampowered.com/2018_so_far
of course without numbers.
well if they wanted to just kill steamspy they could've done it years before too.
Estimating owners from player numbers is even more guess work.
Isn't shipping free for everyone on German amazon though?
https://store.steampowered.com/2018_so_far
of course without numbers.
well if they wanted to just kill steamspy they could've done it years before too.
Estimating owners from player numbers is even more guess work.
Isn't shipping free for everyone on German amazon though?
You get free 1-day shipping, access to Prime Video, Music and Reading, and free games for a little over 4 euros per month. That's not too shabby IMHO.Amazon Prime is the Humble Monthly of physical goods: you pay a subscription which provides you with incentives to stay in their ecosystem for every other purchase. It is too expensive imo. How much money do you have to spend on their store to make a 50€/year subscription worth it?
Debating if I should get Prime for the Twitch stuff. Have a student discount which cuts the cost by half. Don't know if I need need another place where I have games but never play them though.
Books and orders above 30€ get free shipping.
Books and orders above 30€ get free shipping.
As much as I like Steamspy, the reason why its done is not out of goodwill. Sergey is earning 11k $ just by that and even more before Valve "locked" it down.
That's my library of games they have given away over the last couple of months. I probably wouldn't solely subscribe to Prime for these games, but I've had Prime before and it's a nice added bonus.
As other said it is more about lying and hiding than doing it. Just come out and say "we don't want SteamSpy for that and that reason".
And they will never fix Queue...
So someone made a web site that a lot of people like and earned a lot of money? The horror!
Its more that he made money with stuff that devs/pubs might now want to be public.
Also Valve might have killed it because they are doing their own, big pubs might told Valve to "shut it down" or leave Steam or whatever.
In the end no one knows. I like/liked Steamspy but it was only a matter of time till it shut down. Already happened when big pubs contacted Steamspy to not publish their sale numbers.
Come out and say, don't kill only current method. silently
Amazon Prime is the Humble Monthly of physical goods: you pay a subscription which provides you with incentives to stay in their ecosystem for every other purchase. It is too expensive imo. How much money do you have to spend on their store to make a 50€/year subscription worth it?
You know, looking at that price I don't get why it still cost 19.95 in Spain (not that i'm complaining).
Yeah, but whats so bad about it? If publishers wont their sales data to be "leaked", there is not much you can do. Steamspy always used "exploits" and "crawlers" to determine that. While its nice to see as a customer what sold well where, I can see why publishers or some devs dont want others to see that data.
Wait, you guys have Parks & Rec?
Don't think I'd subscribe to Prime for the Twitch Prime games stuff but since I use the other services Prime offers anyway (especially 1-day shipping), the games are a nice bonus.
Yup Amazon Prime is like really good 1 day delivery is a game changer then you get free games on top of that.
I mean my free Warframe stuff was already worth it but the gameS of the month is the topping.
I mean my free Warframe stuff was already worth it but the gameS of the month is the topping.
Yeah, it's awesome to see 'in the shadows' titles like House Flipper and Bus Simulator 18 ranked.
Titles that most enthusiast sites couldn't be bothered to even mention, let alone talk about.
Also really happy to see how prevalent Paradox is on the various lists, both as a dev and a publisher (CK2, Stellaris, Surviving Mars, BattleTech, etc.). They really are the Nintendo Magic (tm.) publisher of my gaming world.
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