And don't think they ever will, price is king here and whoever hits the cheapest out of ms and Sony and whoever hits first will be my favourites to win next gen.
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PAL Charts - Week 43, 2018
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Someone forgot about slim bundles.
https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/1tb-xbo...&ranSiteID=aBCSbjOIq8Q-YkS5IpLoaQTiAlobYf3l_g
I don't understand what's the strategy with Forza. Your most accomplished exclusive, according to the media, and the company basically uses it as fodder in not one, but almost every bundle available in the market. It happens in most of Europe, too, not only in the UK.
If you already have the system, the reasonable choice is to go only after the game. But if you're about to buy an Xbox, and the game is that good/attractive, it's as if they're leaving money on the table by "gifting" that game in bundles, instead of waiting for people to buy it. They could put any other title in those packs, instead of a new release selling at 50/60€.
It seems to work because it's cheap, compared to other choices, but I doubt there is no better alternative.
If you already have the system, the reasonable choice is to go only after the game. But if you're about to buy an Xbox, and the game is that good/attractive, it's as if they're leaving money on the table by "gifting" that game in bundles, instead of waiting for people to buy it. They could put any other title in those packs, instead of a new release selling at 50/60€.
It seems to work because it's cheap, compared to other choices, but I doubt there is no better alternative.
of course they never will.....i mean, only a small fraction of car owners read car magazines. Or only a small portion of runnners read runners' world (disclaimer: I am a marathon runner and i don't read such magazines too :P )
That's what MS have been doing this gen, constant deals with multiple games, price cuts, etc.. they need to sell their consoles and doing deals is an easy way of doing that, this is why next gen will be interesting, Sony have been pretty chill with deals and PS4 is flying off shelves, what will happen if they go all in?
I hope you are not one of those people who think the US is bigger than the rest of the world.
But in Europe, Xbox is pretty non existant. UK is the only relevant counry for xbox.
I wonder if the game sales split between PS4 and XBO is also reflected in hardware sales split for this week? Did PS4 sell 68% hardware units to 32% XBO units? or better XBO hardware deals helped MS to keep the PS4 to XBO split less extreme?
PS4 is outselling Xbox even in the US, factoring WW sales this 68% sales share is impossible to drop down, hell I can see minimum 75% or even higher split overall.
Remember Capcom report of last week or so? you can apply that split among all publishers. PS4 is just dominating this gen.
haven't checked these for a few months but damn, what happened to nintendo's presence? they used to consistently have multiple evergreens in the top 15 or so, now they're all but gone. i remember weeks where they had the most in the top 10, now there's... one first party title. have things recently gotten worse for them in uk or am i being overdramatic?
Well they need new AAA games. Zelda and Mario Odyssey can't stay forever in the top 10 charts. PS4 and XBO are getting big AAA 3rd party games like Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Call of Duty or Red Dead Redemption 2. The Switch does not. Then you have Sony's big AAA exclusives.
The next big Switch game is Pokemon, which will boost sales again.
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New AAA multiplattform releases - its expected.
Unless you expected BotW and Splatoon 2 to outsell CoD, Fifa, Asssins Creed and co. in their launch months or shortly after.
Pokemon is the next big Switch release.
Ik most of the shift I'm seeing is due moreso to numerous incredibly successful non-switch games, but I guess I would have expected them to fall a bit less than they have tho, same with Mario tennis and splatoon 2. How Pokémon and smash do is most important of course.. has been a bit underwhelming in terms of big releases for switch lately
You're right. Don't know why, but I thought Smash Bro will launch first.
RDR2 68/32
FIFA19 68/27
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It has become ridiculous, imagine the rest of EU.
Is it wild for me to think Spyro Re-Ignited could outsell Pokemon Let's Go in the opening week for the UK? Spyro has always been really popular in the UK, Crash did exceptionally well, and Let's Go response has been... let's say mixed.
Individual Units - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
Individual Value - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110033
PS4 Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110042
XBO Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110041
NSW Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110048
Individual Value - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110033
PS4 Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110042
XBO Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110041
NSW Top 20 - http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110048
Wrong week.Individual Charts are up:
Hang in there, Astro Bot =D
Ha, I was expecting to be a couple percentage too high, not too low.
I doubt those games are selling any worse than they were before, the difference is a lot of big games have come out recently and they're selling a lot better. I think a lot of people forget that during slow weeks games might only have to sell a thousand units to get into the top 15, whereas in bigger weeks they might have to sell five times that number.
You forgot FIFA, likely their biggest get for the UK market. Its fair to say RDR2 bundles are doing well for Sony https://www.game.co.uk/en/hardware/...?cm_mn=TopNav-_-PlayStation4-_-Main-Consoles/
I picked up the X1X + RD2 Limited Edition, FH4 and FM7 for £399.99 last week, loads of heat on Hotukdeals.com. I wonder how many people are like me and have a FM7 code they do not want. The X1X will be my multiplat console till the end of this gen.
The definition of winning is going to need redefining.
Do units count or revenue or services...
The X has definitely shown that there is a considerable market for a high end console. Whilst its never going to sell the same units as the S - the latest NPD shows it isn't perhaps quite as niche as many tried to say it was. I think it will get a price cut at X018 and likely have a higher sales trajectory still. It won't outsell the S but I think it'll come close.
Dont worry they will come back after holidays, same thing happenned last year
You know that wouldn't even surprise me since we are talking about UK lol.
Seeing Soul Calibur VI lurking near the bottom of the charts so soon makes me sad, especially with the Xbox One version out of the top 40 altogether...
That Forza Motorsport 7 + Forza Horizon 4 + Red Dead Redemption 2 bundle did very well!
The Switch evergreens are doing okay actually.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is at 13, Breath of the Wild is at 28 and Super Mario Party is still in the top 10. I am curious to see how Pokémon Let's Go does, given its lukewarm reception.
What if the Xbox One Two sells more than the PlayStation 5 in units, but the latter brings much more revenue? Would that change your definition of 'winning'?
That Forza Motorsport 7 + Forza Horizon 4 + Red Dead Redemption 2 bundle did very well!
The Switch evergreens are doing okay actually.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is at 13, Breath of the Wild is at 28 and Super Mario Party is still in the top 10. I am curious to see how Pokémon Let's Go does, given its lukewarm reception.
What if the Xbox One Two sells more than the PlayStation 5 in units, but the latter brings much more revenue? Would that change your definition of 'winning'?
Well...yeah you cant sell what doesnt exists xD
We have known the fall release schedule for quite a while - no big surprises so far.
The last big release was Super Mario Party and its been performing quite well worldwide.
Those games dont have alot in common....but Spyro being cheaper and multiplattform, works in its favor....after Crashs performance everything is possible.
Playstation VR Worlds as an ever-present in the UK chart shows there is a market for VR. Is it even possible to buy this title at retail without buying the headset?
Sony should release a PS4 slim (in PS1 Grey) with Spyro and Crash for this Christmas it would do so well. They could even stick a Fortnite sticker on the box.
Sony should release a PS4 slim (in PS1 Grey) with Spyro and Crash for this Christmas it would do so well. They could even stick a Fortnite sticker on the box.
I don't think it'll happen. Kids buy Pokemon and they don't post on the internet. They'll eat that shit up. Spyro will only appeal to nostalgia driven folks. It will do well, but nowhere close to Pokemon.
I don't think there is "winning". Its far more complex now. Companies continuing to produce consoles and increase revenues is winning. Alongside investment in new services and features.
I don't understand the obsession with proclaiming a winner or whatever. If one company for example focusses on the traditional mass market and the other focussed on high end hardcore and had a services package to mop up the bottom end - its totally disruptive to the normal way of looking at the market. But ultimately options are good. And all three are winning right now, so that bodes very well for next gen.
There is some commonality, they are both remakes of games popular in the Late 90's. Spyro 2 actually came out 1 month after Red and Blue did in the UK (October 5th 1999 for Red and Blue in the UK, November 5th 1999 for Spyro 2: Gateway to Glimmer) The first Spyro Game actually came out 3 days before the japanese version of Pokemon Yellow did.
It's funny to see Spyro Reignited launch around the same time Let's Go is, history repeats itself.
Spyro is also going to sell to kids as well. It would be foolish to say that it won't espicially after seeing Crash dominate Summer Last Year (And do quite well this year with the releases to other platforms, it's still in 10th as of this moment).
Guess the question is which platform does the kids have, do they have their switches, or do they have their XB1 and PS4's?
I also wonder how that recently announced Spyro/Crash bundle will play into things.
If the digital/physical ratio is higher on Xbox than on PS (which I assume to be the case), it's a pretty good explanation for the reported split.
And it will be HUGE since there's a big casual/go players that they can tap. I think a lot of veterans are gonna get it just because it's Pokemon.
Worldwide you'll be looking at a good 75-25 split fir RDR2 on PS4 given the European and Asian markets. That's getting on for the kind of split you see for Japanese titles. I think it being a single-player 'cinematic' game helps.
PSVR is quietly building up a nice following. It will no doubt have great deals over the holiday period which will give it a great boost.
Nearly one million in the UK alone is incredible. Add digital in there and it could be along the lines of 1.2-1.3 million.
I'd love to know worldwide figures.
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Thats def. a way to look at both of these releases heh.
I think it will be huge as an everygreen title because it will be the to go Pokemon console game for the broader casual audience as you said. I dont expect massive first week sales though, we will have to wait for next years Pokemon game to get those.
Even if that were still true, and we don't have a lot of data on it, digital sales on PS could still be higher just because of the difference in the size of the userbase combined with the effect of the marketing.
Due to the new releases those evergreens could still be selling the same as when they were charting.
The difference in digital adoption is nowhere even remotely large enough to "explain" that kind of retail split. Of all the factors that would've gone into creating that split, I'd put that somewhere near the bottom.
Xbox having a higher digital share doesn't equate to PS having a small digital share.
Nah
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