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Oscars Launch Formal Review of Will Smith After Chris Rock Slap (Read Staff Post)(Update: Smith apologizes)
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What makes you think Will Smith can't control his temper and emotions just because he decided to slap someone as opposed to not? That is getting into some racist stereotype territory, yeah he was obviously pissed but it doesn't mean he's lost control
I just said that he should talk to someone. I'm not saying he's mentaly ill or that he needs treatment, just that maybe he could benefit to talk to someone about controlling his emotions. That's all I'm saying. Not that he's some evil person who is irredeemable or that he is some violent off the chains lunatic. Just that maybe that kind of public outburst is something that he could have handled better if he had a better handle on his emotions.
And with that, I will be putting this thread on ignore. If someone else has something constructive to say to me, hit my DM's, because this is insanity.
Anyways, this thread is just becoming a proxy/stand in for the thread that got locked yesterday. I don't have the energy so I'm not doing this again.
If you want it to be a "Just walk away" situation, then my advice to you is to do your walking away before you say some shit that gets you rocked. If you want peace, then choose that shit upfront instead of lighting a fire and complaining about the smoke later.
"People who think that punch was weird actually don't care about systemic violence" is by far my favorite take out of this entire mess. There are a lot of amazing takes here, but that one is almost mesmerizing.
After review I fully expect them to upgrade the foul to a flagrant 2 and suspend Will from his next awards show appearance.
Honestly that would make me want to watch the Oscars even more.
Yea and then compares the pointless ass wars US has done to a slap after someone has insulted their significant other. Like please shut up and go do something more productive lol
It's not in this thread, but the other thread has someone literally advocating in favor of state violence. So, it's not much of a stretch.
Absolutely this. Like people are losing their shit over this saying Will Smith is mentally ill over it. The dude slapped a guy who talked shit about his wife's medical condition. I live in Scotland and I can't think of a single pub I've been in that such behaviour wouldn't result in some form of physical altercation. Let alone in a highly charged emotional situation.
Like I said, Chris is an asshole and I never liked him. But its super disturbing to see someone get slapped that hard on TV. Without warning, essentially sucker punching him. There was nothing right about that overt display and toxic of violence, when Chris didn't attack him physically. It's completely disheartening to see a black man do that to another black man on live TV. And I say this as a black man.
If you don't agree with my opinion, then just ignore me. Like i'm about to do to you.
He doesn't need to get help. Please stop with that nonsense.
Only reason this shit is overshadowing anything is cause the bubble pearlclutchers live in got popped lol
I'm not going to entertain an adult who doesn't know the difference between a punch and a slap.
This is pure lunacy that people around here are ok with physically hitting someone because of words. I tell my children violence is never acceptable, ever. If someone makes fun of your mother at school WALK AWAY.
I can't imagine people here tell their children it's OK to hit other kids at school, if they make fun of your parents or siblings. WTF
Chris Rock's comedy is 25 years old too, the first mistake was the Oscars booking him for the event and not expecting Rock to punch low. Or perhaps expecting him to punch low and thinking it's a good thing.
And yet again, someone downplaying the impact that words have.
Agreed, I don't know what's going on with some of the takes. Since when is this OK? WTF is going on??
I mean I tried to use words when I was bullied through all of middle school. I tried for three years.
The only thing that stopped them was me punching a kid in the face on a school trip and kneecapping another one with a baseball bat in the gym locker room. Nothing else worked. Words made it worse.
Stop calling it a sucker punch lmao. Will telegraphed that shit from a mile away and Chris stuck his head out like he was Anderson fucking Silva lol.
It's why so many people thought this was fake. Will's slow saunter, Chris's shit eating grin, the stage slap. It was so fucking ridiculous.
This isn't an endorsement for what Will did, but a sucker punch is a very different thing.
It's why so many people thought this was fake. Will's slow saunter, Chris's shit eating grin, the stage slap. It was so fucking ridiculous.
This isn't an endorsement for what Will did, but a sucker punch is a very different thing.
I actually have a question and hope someone can link me to something that it can explain it a bit more. I had no idea about this black culture around black womens hair(though I should have based on the black hair issues in gaming). I had always assumed that having extremely short hair or shaved heads was more accepted for women as it seems far more common than other cultures.
Watching the Oscars last night was like playing one of my violent videogames. I'm a rabid maniac now.
Well they had to do something since it was live but i don't expect much .
He will keep his Oscar and maybe get banned for next year .
He will keep his Oscar and maybe get banned for next year .
Did, did, did we just have a MOTHERFUCKING US MARINE come in here and say he doesn't like violence!?
Still insane to me that Will Smith charged up on stage, slapped Chris Rock on national television, won an award and then gave a crazy unhinged speech about how God and Devil made him do it. What a show haha. More chaos is what these shows are missing. Loving it.
Come on. He walked right up to him in full view. To call it anything like a sucker punch is insane. Stop it.
That's really the long and short of it.
I mean in some fantasy land where we're all emotionless husks who act as beings of pure logic, sure, you should be able to keep from slapping someone who insults your loved one. But we're human, and humans get emotional, especially where it concerns family.
And Chris Rock wasn't maimed. He got slapped in the jaw, and as pointed out plenty, doesn't care to escalate things further. If he felt any sting this morning it might have been to his pride, but he'll be okay.
At least more okay than Judd Apatow. 😂
I mentioned it upthread, but what strikes me as systemic here is that there is no way in hell let a white presenter get slapped by an audience member for any reason. And if that somehow did happen, there's no way the slapper returns to their seat, no questions asked.
I get that Chris Rock didn't really paint a sympathetic figure here, but I do think the back and forth about what would happen "at a <mundane place of poster's choosing> if someone joked about your spouse" distracts from the fact that the Oscars for sure let this slide in a way that doesn't sit right. Not saying Will Smith needs to go to jail or anything silly--what's done is done--but the fact that they hired Chris Rock as as presenter and then just sat on their hands before, during, and after someone walked up and slapped him in the face is just...I dunno, it seems like that would go a lot differently for a white presenter.
Well let's be fair, that wasn't a punch, it was a slap. Just to get technical here.
Indeed. What people are ultimately arguing for is a world where all verbal harassment is fair game. It's just words.
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These Hollywood celebrities are so precious. The Smiths despite being millionaires and having lives 99% of the world could only dream of, can't take a joke or have their egos deflated without one of them thinking violence is the answer. Pathetic.
Yep.
Anyone saying "just walk away" is speaking from a place of privilege. Sometimes the only way to make it stop is make them know there are repercussions.
The military and police called dibs on all violence (which also is NEVER the answer). Sorry.
Little rough to pin it on a single person tho...
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Yeah lol, just take the verbal abuse man, Violence is never the answer even if the words are that much of an attack on someone's being.
Just because you have money or privilege doesnt mean you have to just take shit on the chin all the time. Are yall ok? Like someone's humanity is automatically stripped away once they have some money, esp when they weren't even born into this shit.
Oh go away. Words have meaning, consequence. Imagine saying this in a world where certain groups have been oppressed and marginalized through words and rhetoric.
You don't get to tell them what is or isn't an acceptable response.
People saying "hitting someone over words is wrong" are not fucking slick. You can't just remove the whole ass context, and the specific language used, of this situation like it isn't the entire reason this shit happened.
Damn, it only took like 7 posts to get another one of these.
Two facts:
1) Being rich doesn't make it okay to be bullied or mocked for medical conditions.
2) It was not a joke. Stop downplaying it and say what it actually was: making fun of how she looks. Words matter.
I mean, it would've been weirder if they didn't. A contractor got hit during their show by a guest and eventually an award winner. Of course they need to review the situation to figure it out.
- All this is is a review. They haven't condemned Will with this, nor have they condemned Chris his joke with this announcement. All they said they are looking into it to figure out what their stance and opinion on the matter are.
- 'But all the sexual predators..!' At the end of the day the Oscar orgs aren't responsible for that nor is it their responsibility to review and assess all those situations. But this did happen on their watch and so they are responsible, so of course they need to review it. If they should even allow or honor sexual predators is just another discussion entirely.
- 'But Chris Rock didn't press charges!' No of course he didn't. He'd come out looking bad no matter what. And at the end of the day it shouldn't matter if he presses charges or not for a review from the Oscars of the situation. Bit different, but in many situations when people report sexual assault they say they don't want the person fired when asked while in reality that person should definitely be fired after a proper review.
The toxicity you have in this post is appalling. People can change. You don't know them or their story.
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