I don't think anyone would mind if they take their time and add the missing pokemon later. Unfortunately it seems highly likely they aren't going to do that.
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Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles
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Welcome to the new world of Pokemon. It's going to be like this with every game now moving forward. Every new game will have its own exclusive lineup of Pokemon that differs from all the other games. Compatibility now changes with each new game. Games become gated communities with player bases that are separate from other games, resulting in a massively fractured player base. Players looking for a new game will have to look up compatibility to see if their preferred Pokemon will be able to work in the game.
It's fucking awful. I still can't believe they're doing this to the franchise.
There is no massive conspiracy. They lied at the conference. That's it.
Seriously, miss me with the don't like it don't buy it shit and quit with the weak ass damage control
Being able to bring your old pokemon to new generations has been the fucking cornerstone design philosophy of pokemon for more than 10 years, for them to show an image that just shows arrows in a very similar manner to pokemon bank implying a system that we've grown accustomed to for a decade and then say "Well, technically they never said you could transfer all your pokemon so actually they're totally fine" is the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard.
No they didn't.
The game isn't out until the end of this year. You're acting like they told us this after the game released.
I have start playing Ultra Sun again. It's not as pretty but at least it has every pokemon
If some thing is going into Home, the implication that it can go from Home to Sword and Shield and back again is clear as day.
Like how are you seriously not getting this.
okay, they were intentionally misleading at the conference, but they didn't technically lie
I can't really say that I buy that they were being purposefully deceptive with that image when they easily could have not mentioned this until the very day Pokemon Home launched, you could argue they were being careless if you want but to be honest this entire gripe of it being a lie or not is pointless.
But everything that can go from Home to Sword and Shield CAN go back to Home.
What are you even talking about now.
Yeah im with you on pokemon Home
for a paid service and what its trying to sell it would have behooved them to be fucking clear
That said Game Freak and the massive Pokemon machine... I wonder how well they coordinate and communicate franchise direction and changes
Seems like a tight ship but its possible that they didnt know the full roster wouldnt be supported lol
Seems unlikely but since people are sniffing out dysfunction amongst their processes already i think its plausible
What a PR nightmare
Yes they did lie.
They only told us this after four different Pokémon streams, at the tail end of a demo stream that most people would have not stayed to watch
What bugs me the most about this part is that say a sequel comes out a year later. I bet they're going to, instead of putting resources into a new feature or mode or chunk of story, they'll probably put it into new returning pokemon making the regional dex bigger. If we're taking everything they said at face fucking value, then every future sequel is going to get kneecapped because of one decision at the start of Gen 8.
Why patch it if they can sell it to us for $60 later?
Oh come the fuck on now.
Just let the idea of them being intentionally deceptive go, it's really pedantic at this point. Call em incompetent or careless all you want but this being some sort of hidden lie is a stretch.
Japan isn't very happy about this either, Gamefreak might not care but Nintendo surely isn't happy about this.
We didn't even know Home was a thing that existed until the week prior. Fans need to stop acting like these companies are obligated to reveal every aspect of a game while it's still in development.
This is kinda a big deal that makes Home utterly useless. If they had advertised it with "you can bring only certain pokemon to Sword and Shield" people wouldn't have cared about Home.
How does it make home useless? I don't need to own a 3DS now, I can see all of them from my phone, and I can trade over the internet from the phone app.
And it means our Let's Go pokemon aren't stuck forever in that game which was my biggest concern with it.
Why does it matter that they cared for a couple of weeks, months before anyone could even think of paying for Home?
Like I don't this is okay but this is such a weird thing to get stuck on
I care about pokemon Home as a hub for all my pokemon from past and future. Does this make me crazy?
Im talking about clarity of information. That isn't clear from the slide or from Masuda's comments at the cofnerence
Like look at the damn picture. Who is going to think the arrows going from Bank, Let's Go, and Go to Home and then to Sword/Shield means "umm no actually only very specific Pokémon can go to Sword and Shield" and not literally anything that is in Home.
They made a point to have everything except Sword and Shield be one way trips, why would anyone think that sending something to Home would trap it in Home until a new game allows it? Like how do you glean that information from that slide?
Haha I really hope Galar doesn't introduce a generic fish or butterfly Pokémon, there will be rage.
Whats the use of a perfectly trained pokemon if it stays stuck on a mobile app?
I can, the thing I don't understand is people are defending the decision. It's indefensible.
You have to pay a subscription fee for the privilege of owning certain Pokemon.
INb4 "haha just wait for the next game to be compatible with that Pokemon then xdddd"
What did you expect? Game Freak are incompetent developers.
I can, the thing I don't understand is people are defending the decision. It's indefensible.
So? They have said that not all pokemon are able to carry over and right away that makes home pretty much useless
I mean...all of your pokemon in Let's Go were trapped until Home allows it. They wouldn't even officially confirm when Let's Go released that the pokemon would be transferable.
Stop making excuses for them. It is absolutely a lie of omission. It is blatant.
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Just noticed the backlash to this eclipsed Shenmue to Epic.
there's a slight difference between "your Pokemon are in the game where you caught them, still perfectly usable" and "your Pokemon are in a box somewhere until we add compatibility and they can come out of the box"
I can't get on board with the idea of that being deliberate and then having Masuda a couple of weeks later go out of his way to tell people. It isn't a deliberate lie, stop fucking continuing this dumb sidebar when there's actually a really bad deliberate decision to discuss.
Then only move the pokemon you can put in Sword and Shield into Home if you want to keep using them on a 3DS?
It wasn't even weeks later. It was like 6 days.
Nah, makes sense to me.
It does suck for people who want to play with all their Pokemon in Sword and Shield, but for someone like me I'd be fine with just storing all my Pokemon in a central location, instead of transferring them between game every time.
I prefer using as many new Pokemon as possible in the new games, and the main reason I transfered pokemon between games was just so I wouldn't lose them and to keep the national dex as full as possible. If the national dex is just the Home app then I think I'd be OK with that until the next Switch Pokemon that DOES allow for all of them to be brought over.
I mostly agree, particularly because we don't know what features Home has beyond "you can put pokemon in it". Unless I missed something, they never even gave us a price for it.
I do think it's fine to say that there's basically nothing that justifies the existence of Home yet based on the information they've provided.
We knew something would be done about it, they mentioned in interviews that they were looking into ways to transfer them forward.
We've kept giving them passes all in the name of having all the Pokémon.
"We chose quality" will become some famous last words.
Kinda like "Fortunately we have a product for that"
Best case scenario for the fans, but I wouldn't bet on it
Yeah...you ASSUMED something would be done. In the same way that you ASSUMED orange and yellow arrows means "everything".
It sucks. This sucks. But we can still be rational adults about the situation.
This is the most likely scenario.
But I think the next game will sell well but they'll be severely disapointed with Home earnings.
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