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blamite

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So, if this turns out to be a "National Pokedex is needed before you can transfer", will those who were misinformed realize this or will the rush to give bad news win over?

Spoiler: It's the later.
it was very clear on the stream that it's not that. It's a technical/development resources thing.
 

Fosko

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Oct 27, 2017
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They said that you can't transfer Pokémon that are not in the regional dex because there are over 800. I heard him loud and clear.
You heard the translation and it was a quick conversation. Even then, they could just block non regional for a limited time, like they did in 3ds, where you had to wait for the pokebank to open.
 

udivision

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Matsuda gave a frank excuse:
They need to keep dev times down.
Too many Pokemon.
Need to keep things balanced.
Switch hardware increased production times.
 

RochHoch

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WHAT THE FUCK? WHY?

What's the point of Pokemon Home if you can't even fucking transfer ALL of your Pokemon over?

Fuck you Gamefreak, this bullshit is unacceptable.
 

GuitarGuruu

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Oct 26, 2017
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Actual super upset over this, "hey lets just remove some of these Pokemon."

I really didn't think anything would turn me away from a mainline game but this has me torn. It looks great but to cut Pokemon? What the hell.
 
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Doesn't it seem weird that they have 800+ Pokemon and they still can't put them all in a game in 2019?

I get there are a ton of 3-D Models with animations but it seems incredibly lame.

That kind of explains why the basic game design looks like a big leap forwards. They're focusing on improving the core of the game rather than the bloat of full backwards compatibility.
 

Pokemaniac

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If this is accurate it's completely unacceptable. And just when things were starting to look promising, too.
 

Yukiko

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This had to be done at some point. At least from a competitive perspective. Some pokémon were way too useful (landorus-t, incineroar ...)
 

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but... i named my account after the pokemon i was going to use
So i have to pray snowpix is in the game? Galar Brexit itself haha
 

GoldStarz

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Everyone: I hope the National Dex is back in Gen 8.
GameFreak: Any Pokemon outside the Galar Dex don't exist.
 

eonden

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IF there is no National DEx and they mean there will be only 300-400 pokemon in the game and the rest are not transferable, Fuck GameFreak.

If it means that you can only transfer from the National Dex after the game is over = OK.
 

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So I'm assuming what they mean is that they haven't had enough time to develop all pokemon models, and hence some pokemon will have to wait for the next game.

This is the weird part. This was part of what they said, but a lot of models are being carried over from Legacy 3DS games (which they already more or less future proofed for later games). So it might be more of a balancing and technical side that they haven't had time to implement all Pokemon. Which makes me wonder if they really didn't have enough time to honestly get the game out in time by the end of the year, but parties are still pushing for it...
 

Shedinja

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Is the idea that once you unlock the National broader pokedex in the new games that you can then move any Pokemon into Sword and Shield? If so, I'd understand.

But are they saying any Pokemon not in the initial Galar dex are forever trapped in gen 7? Wtf?
lol The National Dex is gone in Sun and Moon. Despite Let's Go existing for more casual play, I've never expected it to come back for Sword and Shield because Game Freak.
 

Birdie

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To be honest the way Masuda worded it sounded different than what we've had in the past...this is the first time I felt they were choosing Pokemon to keep in the next Gen.

I don't think the rest will disappear or anything but it doesn't seem like the usual "wait a few months and everyone can come over".
 

Lant_War

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If all the Pokedex save for version exclusives are catchable, I welcome this change.
 

Ushojax

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Isn't that the case for all pokemon games...?

Not in the sense that you are blocked from transferring them into the game. They just wouldn't appear in the Pokédex.

This is a terrible change and one that they eventually have to undo. Unless Masada explained himself poorly then it seems like the "increased power" of the Switch meant they could give more detail to the creatures with animations, interactivity etc and as such the creatures that didn't make the cut are simply not compatible with the games.
 

Woylie

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I'm sorry, what?

This must mean "at launch," right? There's no way they'd take out such an essential feature of the series lol. Right? Right!?

I guess there's always Ultra Sword and Ultra Shield... ugh.
 

SirNinja

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Not disappointed at all; this was completely expected. As the mainline games continue to add more and more to the roster, it becomes increasingly unreasonable to expect that all 800-900(+?) mons will make it in. There will still be a ton to catch and choose from.
 

gardfish

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Will wait to hear more confirmation about this, but incredibly disappointing if true. Every other Pokemon game (except Let's Go, but those are their own thing) has allowed you to transfer any Pokemon you want over; it's really going to suck when people can't use their favorites at all because they're not included in the Galar dex.
 
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