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grand

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So I've just finished a reread of Arlong Park. When Luffy starts destroying the map room, I think it's just as powerful a moment as Luffy putting his hat on Nami.

When Hawkeyes goes to see Shanks, there's a couple of things that stood out. He first mentions camping on the beach is bad and I'm not sure why he says it. Next he calls Shanks a washed up pirate. Then Shanks says he's in a bad mood and when the Luffy wanted poster is revealed, Shanks has the claw marks on his face.

A couple of questions:
- Is Shanks in a bad mood presumably because he just has a fight with Blackbeard?
- Is Shanks a Emperor at this time?
- if yes, why would Mihawk call him a has-been?
- if no, is Luffy appearing on the scene what motivates Shanks to keep pushing ahead and eventually becoming an emperor?

Edit: scenes in question
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Not sure I understand Mihawk's deal here. Is there a problem with camping on the beach? Or a problem with this beach in particular?

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??? Why the has-been comment?
Oda didn't plan out the 4 emperors by this point so this scene is actually supposed to be a moment of hyping up Shanks since it's revealing that Shanks is (or was with two hands) on par with the greatest swordsman in the world.

The rest is just set up for the hangover joke. Beaches are bad places to camp because of high tide (this setting up that Shanks & co likely just passed out on the beach after partying all night). Shanks is in a bad mood because he's hungover. Mihawk is calling Shanks a hasbeen because he's a one armed drunk (so it's an insult at Shanks being obviously hungover and not at his reputation worldwide). And so forth.

As Oda later established, Shanks was an emperor for several years before this scene.
 

Tace

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Poodlestrike

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Wait, does all that mean that Mihawk is Emperor-tier all by himself?

I knew that dude hit different.
 

Morlas

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Wait, does all that mean that Mihawk is Emperor-tier all by himself?

I knew that dude hit different.
yeah presumably the only reason Mihawk isn't a Yonko himself is because he's a loner and is only interested in fighting strong opponents rather than normal 'pirate activities'
 

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Chapter 1,022: "The Stars' Entrance" (čŠ±å½¢ē™»å “ (ćÆćŖ恌恟 ćØ恆恘悇恆)).

In the cover, some members of Tontatta tribe and a frog play hide and seek in hydrangea bush.

Chapter starts with an update of Onigashima's war. The narration says that the difference in numbers between the two sides are narrowing. We can see too a map of Onigashima's castle with the position of where each Tobiroppo was defeated. Despite the map shows the position of the 5 defeated Tobiroppo, we only see 3 panels with Black Maria, Who's Who and Sasaki unconscious after their battles (Page One and Ulti haven't their own panels).

Then we see Onigashima island flying in the sky, the Flower Capital is near. We can see in a small map that the island has already traveled half the distance from the coast of Wanokuni to the Flower Capital. We also see Luffy screaming and full of energy, he's inflated after eating all the food that Caribou gave him. Onigashima is 15 minutes away from the Flower Capital.

Cut to Onigashima's 3rd floor, Raizou and Fukurokuju are fighting. Raizou uses his technique "Ninpo: Bunshin no Jutsu" (Ninja Art: Clone Technique) to create some clones. Fukurokuju uses his technique "Ninpo: Mimitabu Crackers" (Ninja Art: Earlobes Crackers - č€³ćŸć¶ ć‚Æćƒ©ćƒ„ć‚«ćƒ¼) with which he can control his earlobes (that have firecrackers at the edge) at will like whips.

Despite the fact that Raizou attacks him with several clones, Fukurokuju is able to see through Raizou's technique and manages to hit the real Raizou.

Raizou: "Why you chose to serve Orochi!!?"

Fukurokuju: "I'm a ninja and it is ninja's duty to serve the Shougun of Wanokuni. In contrast, the man you serve is merely a ghost. You can't become a true ninja because you can't contain your personal feelings!!"

Raizou: "Our actions are sincere because we act with our personal feelings!! We all died along with Oden-sama on that day. What you see are merely ghosts who are here to carry out Oden-sama's will!! What we do isn't "duty" since they are our feelings that drive us. The night of Kaidou and Orochi is about to end, and the sun will shine upon Wanokuni as Momonosuke-sama becomes the Shougun!!"

As Raizou speaks, we see the other Red Scabbards. Kinemon, Kiku and Ashura are still lying on the ground (we can't see their faces) and the other are all running or fighting (including Denjirou).

Cut to another part of Onigashima's 3rd floor, Killer and Hawkins are fighting. Hawkins is using his scarecrow-like form, we can see some straw dolls in the ground. It seems Killer attacked Hawkins many times but there's no effect thanks to Hawkins' powers.

Killer: "How many lives you stored!!"

Hawkins: "Not many left... Fufufu."

Killer stabs Hawkins but Hawkins laughes.

Hawkins: "Yeah, I haven't many lives left... But the question is "whose life" is it...!!"

Cut to Onigashima's 2nd floor, Law and Kid are fighting Big Mom. Suddenly, Kid kneels down with a stab wound appearing on his chest. Back to the 3rd floor.

Hawkins: "If you kill me, your captain will die too... By your own hands!!"

Cut to the "Live Floor". King and Queen (this one in hybrid form) are annihilating the entire floor together. They are attacking all Gifters that betrayed them. The area is on fire, King is grabbing the head of a 4-armed Gifter while his hand burns. Marco has reached his limit so he can't stop them anymore. Sanji tried to fight both of them too, but he was thrown away.

Sanji shouts at Chopper and Miyagi to take Zoro and run if the drug doesn't work. Miyagi says the drug may take some time to activate since Zoro was in critical condition. Sanji enters the fight again and kicks Queen's face. King goes for Zoro.

Perospero is still in the room, but he's moved a bit out of the action zone. He has drawn his candy bow and is aiming at Sanji, his intention is to shoot Sanji to avenge for the wedding. Perospero has Sanji within range, but just before shooting his arrows, Nekomamushi comes at full speed and slaps Persopero in the face. The blow makes Perospero fly off the "Live Floor" (he hits some rocks near a bridge).

Chopper, Miyagi and Tristan are running along with Zoro (a pair of samurai carry him). However, King appears before them cutting off their path. King "conjures" a fireball in his hand and attacks Chopper and the other with a new attack called "Andon" (Emperor Flame - ē‚Žēš‡ (ć‚¢ćƒ³ćƒ‰ćƒ³)). Marco appears at high speed and blocks King's attack with his "Fushi Azami" (Immortal Azami Flower - äøę­»č–Š), the same attack with which he blocked Kizaru's "Yasakani no Magatama" in Marineford (now that attack has a name).

Marco: "I heard that long time ago, a race of being that can create fire lived on top of the "red wall" (čµ¤ć„å£). King the Fire* could it be that...?"

*Marco doesn't use King's normal nickname ("King the Wildfire" - ē«ē½ć®ć‚­ćƒ³ć‚°) becouse he changes the term "kasai" (ē«ē½) for the term "kaen" (ē«ē‚Ž) which means "fire".

King: "..."

But then Queen enters the scene too and says he has already tired and that they are going to kill Marco. Queen prepares his laser beam while King "conjures" a fireball in his hand. They are both about to attack Marco.

Marco: "Okay, okay. I give up... I've fought enough. My part ends here. It's time for the "stars" to enter the stage!!

As Marco says that, we see Zoro's bandage being torn apart. Chopper is shocked (another "Enel face" lol)

Zoro: "Santouryuu...!!"

Sanji: "Diable...!!"

Zoro: "Rengoku Oni Giri!!!"

Sanji: "Mouton Shot!!!"

In a BADASS final double spread, Sanji and Zoro attack King and Queen together.

Zoro: "Hey swirly, if we manage to win this battle...!!"

Sanji: "Yeah, I can begin to see it... The image of Luffy as "the Pirate King"!!!"

End of the chapter, no break in next Jump issue.
 

Doc Holliday

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Can we all agree that Mihawk had the greatest One Piece introduction ever? So many things were accomplished when he showed up.

- The world is full of monsters that completely outclass the straw hats
- Sets up the grand line as being scary as fuck
- Zoro sees how far he has to go
- The first time really that One Piece gets serious

It was just so damn good on so many levels.
 

Skeeter49

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Can we all agree that Mihawk had the greatest One Piece introduction ever? So many things were accomplished when he showed up.

- The world is full of monsters that completely outclass the straw hats
- Sets up the grand line as being scary as fuck
- Zoro sees how far he has to go
- The first time really that One Piece gets serious

It was just so damn good on so many levels.
It's insane that Zoro was the first character to get a huge barrier he has to beat, and not only is he still not there yet, but Mihawk is one of the strongest characters we've seen in OP to this day.
 

djinn

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Can we all agree that Mihawk had the greatest One Piece introduction ever? So many things were accomplished when he showed up.

- The world is full of monsters that completely outclass the straw hats
- Sets up the grand line as being scary as fuck
- Zoro sees how far he has to go
- The first time really that One Piece gets serious

It was just so damn good on so many levels.
It was definitely the first real hype moment for me. So much stuff happening with Kreigs and Baratie and then this guy in a raft with a giant cross on his back turns up and cuts a ship in half. I was like, what the hell is this now??
 

Garrod Ran

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i find it really neat how Zoro whips out what he calls his ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE so early against Mihawk, it doesn't work, and he doesn't get the chance to use it until aaaaaaaaall the way in Thriller Bark
 

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Can we all agree that Mihawk had the greatest One Piece introduction ever? So many things were accomplished when he showed up.

- The world is full of monsters that completely outclass the straw hats
- Sets up the grand line as being scary as fuck
- Zoro sees how far he has to go
- The first time really that One Piece gets serious

It was just so damn good on so many levels.
Oh, yeah. For sure.

I was talking about this after I read that Boichi take on Zoro vs. Mihawk a couple weeks ago but as a character and as a moment he sort of exists in a class of his own. He's monstrously strong - able to keep up with even the current dizzying heights of the protagonists, possibly stronger - and almost uniquely, there's basically no comedy to him or his intro. His design isn't silly or exaggerated, and neither is his personality. He's presented accordingly, and the corresponding impact is huge. Great stuff
 
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He'll never see it coming when we run his pockets

And if he does he short anyway I'll jump over him šŸ˜œ

The nerve! And than gon try and rob me. Thought we was close. Not even gonna show u the zenitsu figure I ordered

You'll show me tho right?

I'm in Pa so I'll help. We'll all wear Flampe costumes.

I could pull it off I think
 

TheChits

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Oh, yeah. For sure.

I was talking about this after I read that Boichi take on Zoro vs. Mihawk a couple weeks ago but as a character and as a moment he sort of exists in a class of his own. He's monstrously strong - able to keep up with even the current dizzying heights of the protagonists, possibly stronger - and almost uniquely, there's basically no comedy to him or his intro. His design isn't silly or exaggerated, and neither is his personality. He's presented accordingly, and the corresponding impact is huge. Great stuff
Yeah I think this is a big reason why Mihawk hits so hard and makes such an impression. Dude is not here to mess around, so when he shows you know it is serious
 
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