Official PlayStation Next-Gen plans (2020, Wired Exclusive Article) [ Ray Tracing, BC, SSD, & more]
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There's not caring about VR and then there's hoping it dies and others not able to enjoy it. One is fine and the other is just childish.
I didn't realise until someone pointed it out either, but by 2020 PCIE 4.0 will be standard, good thinking by Cerny to make sure PS5 has it, PS4 having Sata 2 was an issue.
Yeah I seriously want this officially from Sony. Combine a monthly payment plan for 2 years with 2 years of PS+ and you can make getting the new console day one really attractive, even if the RRP is 500 or whatever and maybe higher than is ideal. Let's say hypothetically a £500 console and £50 a year PS+ Premium, that's only £600 which is £25 a month for 2 years. Most people would jump at that sort of contract to get the console day one.
they are going to 7nm from 28nm. thats a 4x chip size reduction. the Pro was 4.2 tflops on a 16nm chip at $399. X1X was 6 tflops on a 16nm at $499.
Going from 16nm to 7nm should allow them to at the very least double the number of compute units which should give us as 12tflops GPU. Combined that with power efficiency improvements and they should be able to put the clock speeds even higher. Expect 14-15 tflops console in a $499 box.
SSD prices are dropping fast. you can get a 1TB SSD for $80. Sony should be able to get a better deal on it. Compare that to $40-50 regular HDDs and you are looking at roughly double the cost. Not worrying about the $399 price tag lets them go for a fancy SSD and a fancy cooling system like the vapor chamber cooling in the X1X.
Well, the OP says customs SSD faster than what's available on PC. Could be an SSD with an optane like caching solution? IDK, but yeah probably an nvme pcie.
According to what rumor mill? Last I heard MS was still pretty confident they'd have the power edge next round.
Fine with me. This is a console that will last the next 8+ years. I would rather have them go all out the the hardware with a higher price at launch.
The price can always come down over time. Certain hardware features, like the CPU and other key technologies, can't simply be added later on. This console will serve as the baseline for most developers going forward. Giving them a higher minimum bar to work with makes everyone's game better.
I doubt this is going to be less than $500 but I doubt it's more either so it is in all reality probably going to be $499, which is fine this isn't 2013 anymore. Hell my iPhone cost $1200 and I don't even do anything with it, I think $500 for a console you are going to keep for 5-7 years is probably not that big a deal to many. Sony also doesn't need the "THIS COSTS $399" thing this time especially since this thing is BC to a console that by the time this comes out is probably going to have 110+ million users.
I am sorry VR isn't enjoyable to you, but to many of us, it's a deciding factor since VR is remarkable.
There is no rumor of this. It was people taking brad sams speculation out of context and twisting it to fit their narrative.
The price was one of the lesser reasons that PS4 did so much better than XBox One at launch. And we live in a different world now, where the generations aren't as fully separate from each other. We already have two power-levels of PS4 with games fully working with both and taking advantage of the extra power, and we know PS5 is going to be fully backwards compatible. Likely most new games will be written to work on both PS4 and PS5, with more features on PS5, and only the occasional exclusive. So PS5 becomes an option for those who want to spend more money, and for people who want to pay less, they can get a PS4 Pro.
Consoles are becoming PCs, where most games work on most PCs, but take advantage of whatever hardware you have. It's my thinking that when they release PS5, they will phase out PS4 so PS4 Pro will be $350, PS5 $500 or $550. Then after a few years they can release a PS5 Pro, and PS5 will drop in price and they'll phase out PS4 Pro.
Not a smart move for a console that might release in 2020. Microsoft can smile and see "you'll see" and after a few months of the too-far-off PS5 dominating the hype cycle, everybody will have eyes on Microsoft in the run-up to a release to a Sony console, and that's a poor PR cycle position to be in. It's more likely that Sony did this to put a damper on Microsoft's current goodwill momentum what with positive stories about Microsoft plentiful in the press and Sony being the target of an unhealthy amount of negative press as of late.
Unlikely. People are going to ask why they don't care about it now and why they didn't start as soon as they were able. They had the last few years of positive BC press and planning the PS5 to try and push out PSX and PS2 compatibility for PS4 (it can't be that hard; they had a SOFTWARE emulator available for the Cell processor in short order) just to convince people that they're serious about that level of BC, rather than say "hey, we're fully committed to letting you play legacy Sony software...on our next console," which is why I don't think we'll see any real effort to expand compatibility with a legacy library outside of existing PS4 titles and anything else that can be played on PS4, which is par for the course, considering the PS3->PS4 generational switch was a hard ecosystem reset.
Navi 10 & Ryzen 3600, which will cost about $600 to build on PC, $700 with an SSD, but Sony take a loss & get a discount.
You could compare to Nvidia as well i guess, maybe a GTX 1080.
and just like that
Lmao. Let the gif wars begin!!!
In the article it mentioned Sony is getting dev kits out faster, so this is a good guess.
Hopefully they opens the flood gates for some actual other leaks.
Waiting to hear about ram now....
No last video by Brad Sam? Soesifically said matching ps5 with ananconda and close to x with lockhart
Hard to say without more info on the graphics chip itself, but everything else sounds excellent so far. It will be a great leap forward in many ways just on the main processor and solid state drive alone.
Exciting news. Would buy day one for:
-BC with PS3 games
-Performance enhancements for PS4 games (specifically Bloodborne and RDR2)
Otherwise, I'll wait it out.
-BC with PS3 games
-Performance enhancements for PS4 games (specifically Bloodborne and RDR2)
Otherwise, I'll wait it out.
Yeah.
They probably have no problem changing phones every year for $700-1000.
But another $100 for an atleast 5-year device? Nope.
Considering the price of newest GPUs, 499 is more than fair.
I'm gonna join the Waitansee tribe.
I'm gonna join the Waitansee tribe.
I mean sure, and the PS5 can also be 999$, everything's possible!
I'm actually positive the PS5 will have SSD drives by default, I just don't believe it will be as complex as what could potentially be achieved on 500+ motherboards with dedicated lanes for the SSD itself to show very little gains over your regular, now low cost (1 tb for 99$), 2280 NVMe ssds.
One thing I don't get about Backwards compatibility is, don't you need publisher permission to make them games backward compatible for new hardware. Don't Xbox have to get permission for each 360 game released on Xbox one?
Quadruple-layer discs have theoretically existed in Blu-ray specifications for almost a decade. It is not a mass production format. Would/should Sony invest to bring it into mass prodiction while physical media is rapidly declinging? I doubt it.
With these specs I wonder if they will do a ps5 pro as well. If so I might just wait for that. Idk though the system seems future proof if it's going to be 8k capable
it sounds more like 1000$, and This comment about VR is why I don't think he is actually trustworthy
There are lots of rumors going around, but I'm just going by what Phil Spencer actually said last E3. Microsoft "will once again deliver on our commitment to set the benchmark for console gaming." It also seems highly unlikely both next Xbox Skus will be weaker than PS5. Lockhart maybe, but Lockhart and Anaconda?
Suuurreee because that worked out so well for PS3.. It's nice but less important for many people than new games and features. Also price.
It might release a year and a half from now and we're missing a lot of info (what kind of SSD, dedicated hw for RT or not?, RAM, CPU/GPU perf ..)
Who knows what the price will be (even if $499 wouldn't surprise me)..
Who knows what the price will be (even if $499 wouldn't surprise me)..