Some folks are still stuck on events and presentations. We're still getting one anyway at some point. It's not like anything negative will come from this.
Official PlayStation Next-Gen plans (2020, Wired Exclusive Article) [ Ray Tracing, BC, SSD, & more]
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Some folks are still stuck on events and presentations. We're still getting one anyway at some point. It's not like anything negative will come from this.
Would like to know as well, would be nice to not need my standalone player.
NVME in PCIE 4.0 actually sounds about right, i didn't think about that.
Excited i guess…
I have SO many games to play on PS4, this can actually wait. Or PS5 will give PS4 games a significant boost.
I have SO many games to play on PS4, this can actually wait. Or PS5 will give PS4 games a significant boost.
Higher end NVME is expensive because every drive on the high scale requires a controller. On Samsung this is stuff like UBX or Polaris, etc. So on the little M.2 PCB, you have a little processor and all the traces on there to manage data.
What I imagine Sony might do here is have their own NVME PCIe 4.0 controller (or purchased from Samsung/etc) but have it ON the PS5 main board itself, OR baked into the APU by AMD to take advantage of the new Ryzen 2 architecture.
This would allow for VERY cheap controllerless m.2 nvme 4.0 X4 SSD.
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Yeah this I noticed as well. No RAM size or FLOPS in sight. Purely the major architectural decisions.
Biggest games are 60fps. Once upon a time Battlefield had that same argument over COD.
Now their multiplayer games target 60fps, when Metal Gear FP was announced it was the first major 60 fps released on this gen. Then came the Uncharted remasters and Shadow of the Colossus, all had 60fps upgrade because of the demand. It is there and has a bigger traction than the PS3 era.
It would be insanely idiotic not to get this option right off the gate. Bells and whistles are no longer impressing when games like Apex are breaking large market and an expectation to meet back the sales for the obvious budget enhancement.
My bigger concern is actually external storage. If this is a specially engineered SSD, then external storage goes out the window, doesn't it? I'm not keen on how fast USB C is, or if Sony would have to release their own specialized external drive at a premium price.
Even the ps3's generation of low red textures and brown/puke colours wouldn't fare all that well.
I've never seen the point of endless PR smoke. It diminishes in value everytime you say something. Worse still, that value starts to plummet at break neck/free fall speed when people figure out that what you're saying is just PR.
Cerny spoke all of 3 times this generation. PS announcement, Pro announcement, PS5 Specs. And every time has caused a sea change within his target audience.
If this isn't proof that less is more, then I don't know what is.
This is a blowout? We barely know anything yet. PS4 was unveiled in 2 stages, PS5 might be unveiled in 3 stages:
First: today's info
Second: formal announcement and name of the console with features, tflops and specs and game demos (PS Meeting)
Third: Showing off the console, games lineup, price, launch date
I don't think it would add that much more cost, the "SSD" is very likely a single chip "cache" (32 or 64GB?) directly on the motherboard, very close to the CPU to maximize bandwith.
Wow, Sony officially talking about this this early is not what I expected. Sounds damn great.
An SSD with Performance that's not currently available on PC??
You are telling me that the Ps5 will have an even faster ssd than my 2500/3000 Mbps write/read Nvme SSD in my MacBook Pro 😲
With the rest of the specs...can you please let me edit 4K video and render it on that thing lol
Edit: also where is that thread a month ago about Sony's silence and demise and their inevitable loss of next gen haha
You are telling me that the Ps5 will have an even faster ssd than my 2500/3000 Mbps write/read Nvme SSD in my MacBook Pro 😲
With the rest of the specs...can you please let me edit 4K video and render it on that thing lol
Edit: also where is that thread a month ago about Sony's silence and demise and their inevitable loss of next gen haha
Which could mean that the numbers people expect to be high, are not that high and the actual system is pushed more towards CPU and RT tech, than GPU flops.
Day 1 for this and Anaconda....give them to me, straight into my veins!!!
Can't wait to see what Horizon 2 looks like...holy shit...
Can't wait to see what Horizon 2 looks like...holy shit...
Laughing at all those threads and people really out here fake concerning about the PS5 not having BC for PS4. Like some of y'all was really on something else.
I don't mind someone having thought that a while ago, but man, some people are all up in my face about it. xD~~
Even after Kotaku was saying, "Hey, we spoke to developers, and all of them expect 2020 and none of them are planning for 2019," some people still thought there was enormous wiggle room.
I've been saying that both raytracing and an SSD were highly unlikely for a while. Glad to be proven wrong like I was with my 2gb of RAM prediction for the current gen :p
3D audio chip sounds awesome. I always use headphones and the games that support it feel so much more immersive. Very excited about that.
3D audio chip sounds awesome. I always use headphones and the games that support it feel so much more immersive. Very excited about that.
By the way, given the nature of CELL in PS3, will the dream of PS3 BC remain a dream?
Also, with regards to 8K output, I wonder if this means that it will at least feature UHD BD player like Xbox one X.
Also, with regards to 8K output, I wonder if this means that it will at least feature UHD BD player like Xbox one X.
There were seriously a lot of Nvidia flag wavers going around and touting AMD could not do this. And yet here we are talking about consoles having it baked in. Navi more than likely has something akin to extra cores or something more CU'S IDK to use Ray tracing.
And I think we will get a demo within this year or close to next year from Unreal showing ray tracing running on AMD. But seriously you can sigh all you want. I know ray tracing has been around for a long ass time, it's been used in films mainly CGI, and animated movies. But took a shit ton of time to render. Now the hardware can do it without sacrificing so many resources gpu performance wise.
I'm no expert, I dabble in making custom scripts for NLE systems, and building them for clients that do this type of shit for a living. So I am not well versed 100% on a technical level. But know enough to understand.
ANd currently to be honest the landscape of tech especially when it comes to graphics has been something that Nvidia has done some shady shit in the past. It's nice to here that AMD is firing back even if lets say RTX cards and what comes next from Nvidia is better at ray tracing than what AMD has. It's nice to not have a false narrative of nvidia being the only guy in town.
Which has been a huge narrative for along time, especially in the PC market same goes for intel.
I truly hope NAVI is a real market changer, even if it may not be the most powerful thing regardless of it's architecture and models that come from it.
Last I heard from one of my contacts, GTA 6 will be first out on current gen consoles and have a remastered version on next gen. But this piece of information goes all the way back to sometime mid of last year. So may be GTA 6 will be out on both current and next gen simultaneously?
At first, for sure. I can see them finding a happy middle ground a few years in, though.
I don't think he meant the speed of web slinging was limited by the HDD -more that the speed of moving through any open world is limited by HDD speed. In Spiderman's case I would hope/expect they'd agree on a preferred max speed for movement, and then they'd tailor the engine and streaming assets around that - taking into account the HDD speeds.
It's due to PCIE 4.0, which is coming in few months to PC with Ryzen 2.
