This is too big. Definitely building a PC before Starfield now. Though it might be a Minecraft scenario where the big money making games would be put out everywhere. And there is no way you can stop Doom ports from happening, pretty sure they just spread through osmosis or some shit. We are in for an interesting generation not matter what scenarios play out that's for damn sure. Holy shit.
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I was thinking the same thing, Honestly hoping for more specifics in the coming months but for now it's safest to assume that PC is the place to go if your truly looking at games from Bethesda in the near future. Wonder if Bethesda was in some kind of financial trouble to lead to them becoming a part of microsoft, outside of financial security what did they gain?We are on page 145, and I think by this thread's ending, we'll make it to the end folks. Just sit tight.
He still thinks it's 2006 and it's still being run by Howard Stringer.
a few people keep talking about market cap when it comes to buying companies. market cap does not equal cash on hand.
Microsoft has an over 130 billion scrooge mcduck cash pile right now. Sony I believe is between 20-30 billion a few years ago, growing, but still.
Microsoft has an over 130 billion scrooge mcduck cash pile right now. Sony I believe is between 20-30 billion a few years ago, growing, but still.
They are owned by Microsoft. They do not have autonomy. Phil has already made this clear.
Not really though. I can't buy a PC just for doom. It's cost prohibitive.
I don't see Sony in danger at all so I don't get the "sink or swim" attitude. I do hope this kind of spooks Sony off from major acquisitions, but it'll probably do the opposite - but I hope it doesn't. Maybe they'll get MS on the line and cut a deal.
Here's what happened today. Any ideas of getting MS out of the gaming space vanished. 3rd parties will think twice before eliminating the Xbox Eco system out of their game with an exclusive tie-up bid. MS has full control of it's destiny in the gaming space once again! Oh yea, MS has games now!
They're owned by Microsoft, but they can still function as an autonomous entity.
I did not expect to wake up to this news.
Clearly this is all a ploy so that Master Chief or Doom Marine can be in Smash and be Echo fighters of each other like the Belmonts. /s
I'm all seriousness I do wonder what kind of knock on effects we have in store to see.
Clearly this is all a ploy so that Master Chief or Doom Marine can be in Smash and be Echo fighters of each other like the Belmonts. /s
I'm all seriousness I do wonder what kind of knock on effects we have in store to see.
They're not giving games away on game pass, you're paying up to $15 a month for it depending on your sub. You gotta remember that most people don't buy every new release day one, they might buy the yearly CoD and Madden. That's money locked up and reserved for their usuals. If you have subs to gamepass, that's a revolving door.
Sony Corp only has around 9 billion USD of free cash flow as opposed to Microsoft's 45 billion....
I didn't plan on getting an Xbox this generation (though Sony's $100CAD 1st party titles gave me pause), but this is huge. The value of gamepass cannot be understated now. What is the gaming landscape going to look like after the generation? How is Sony going to respond? It's all so much to process.
Anyway, I'll probably be getting an Xbox now.
Anyway, I'll probably be getting an Xbox now.
That's how it can work. Subsidiaries don't have to always be babysat by their parent companies, they can still function independently.
that does not mean what you think it means, its talking about the command structure within bethesda studios, not zenimax. They are now a first party microsoft developer
It's not console warring, it's the absolute truth. Sony acquiring whole studios and an assortment of 3rd party game delay exclusives, modes, hasn't been met with the same kind of vitriol that this thread has seen, and it's not like you can't play these games on at least one other platform. It's too much.
They've got 33 billion cash on hand right now, jumped to 25 from 2018 then to 30 from 2019, now 33. And since acquisitions are rarely done with all cash(usually cash + stock), people are really exaggerating Sony's posiiton here. If they think it's worth it, they'll respond. Though imo, they should secure a few developers they're partners with, not full ass publishers
...how does that prove that Microsoft has no control over them? Why would you pay 7.5 billion dollars for no advantage? Come on dude
Blind hope and optimism judging from their other posts in this thread.
This kind of deal with be less and less now. You can only step on a Great White's head so many times before he bites back!
If MS wanted to do a Bethesda again, it would be Capcom.
They're refering to Bethesda Softworks, the publisher. Damn, you people really are in denial, LOL.
MS has show they at least can make there games avaible on other platforms if they want to. Guess elder scrolls 6 showing up on ps5 isn't any less likely then last of us 2 showing up on pc at this point. Ya gotta believe!
This comparison makes no sense. Marvel's Spider-Man on PS4 is not the same 'IP' the PS2 games for example.
Sony buying Insomniac hasn't locked Marvel's Spider-Man to PS consoles because Sony had the rights to that game franchise already. Don't be disingenuous.
Microsoft still approves Bethesda's decisions, but Bethesda can largely still function on their own.
IIRC it was, essentially, one of the Doom devs calling the Series S a steaming pile of weaksauce shit.
I vaguely remember hearing something about this. What's the story again?
You're simplifying thing to a massive degree. "More competition" can mean many things, but the absolute worse form of it is a consolidation of established products from a large consumer market to a much smaller one. It just isn't healthy as it just takes the games away from people who would've 100% bought them, and this kind of practice will now surely just escalate. This isn't about proving anything.
I see many Xbox gamers here overjoyed, but what then when Sony or Google or Apple announces that they've bought some big third party publisher and now you have to buy their system to play the games. People aren't just going left and right buying all the consoles. An overwhelming majority only has one, that's it and it isn't going to change. How is this a good thing for consumers or makes gaming better for everyone? Having creative control in fewer hands is newer a good thing. I guess we'll have to wait until that day until most realise that this is just a really bad thing for consumers as a whole.
MS just spent 7.5B which doesn't really go towards making games better and just takes many established franchises away from millions of gamers. That money would've made wonders to gaming in general if it was spent to form new studios.
I mean, many could say that for any first party titles or even titles like FFXVI. Acquisitions happen mate, but if gaming has worn thin on you then no need to push to make something enjoyable when it's not. Just be mindful that games being locked away from other platforms isn't new, nor is it new to Microsoft.