cool tyvm
no measurement on the width tho. do we know if any of these cards require 3x 8-pins?
Yes some of the custom AIB's are using 8 pin, and specifically from your picture, the EVGA FTW3 is using 3x 8 pin.
So I don't see nvlink support for the 3070 or 3080. Am I gonna need to get 2 3090s? That would be ridiculous...
Only 3090 supports Nvlink this gen. Jensen doesn't want you to combine that crazy value of two 3080's. (Tbf most games don't work with SLI nowadays)
Any educated guesses on the performance differences between the 3080 and 3090? From the specs it seems that the difference isn't huge outside of the VRAM size. About 20%. If it reflects to the real life performance, I don't see how it's worth the extra in money. I was mentally prepared to buy the 3090, but the more math I do, the more I am becoming skeptical.
For double the price, it has to be at least 30%. Has to be.
Just doing math, shows that the 3090 (outside of 8K and VRAM usage and bandwidth constraints) is 20% faster. So it can only be at best 20%, likely a little less. But hey you get to pay $800 more than the 3080! Its not good value for gamers.
what in the absolute fuck
I will have nightmares now thank you
My main takeaway from this is that they've increased all their prices. 70 series bumped up to where 80 series was, and 80 series slightly higher than where Ti was
I don't see how when they are offering a 2080 Ti for $500, you see this as a bump in prices. You gotta stop focusing on the names and focus on the performance per dollar.
When I saw how they were handling heat during the presentation, I facepalmed. That is going to be a problem.
Your gpu dumps hot air into your case. This isn't really different.
No, RTX Titan is slightly faster than a 2080 Ti, and the 3090 is far faster than a 2080 Ti.
The "starting at $699" part is what worries me. I remember them using some sort similar verbage with the 2000 series unveiling.
It is confirmed on Nvidia's website, that Founder's Editions are priced at MSRP.
As much as I want the OMG BEST right now which would be pairing the 3090 with my still-perfectly-fine 9900k and 32GB RAM setup...I think instead of dropping what i can only assume will be +$3,000 AUD for a single item; i will instead upgrade my monitor to a 4k/high refresh rate ultrawide and keep ticking with my Asus 2080ti OC card.
(or maybe will just buy the 3090 anyway...).
Why not get the 3080? Still a really large upgrade from 2080 Ti, and it isn't kicking you in the nuts with the price.
I'm assuming the 3090 fondle my balls while I play games if it's $1500.
Only if you don't mind fan blades.
Isn't that an exponential scale? It's a great card, but this seems disingenuous lol.
Uh what? How do you see that as exponential? They didn't even start from higher numbers this time, these are the most honest Nvidia's graphs have EVER been.
Should I be worried about my pcie3 setup?
Is PCIe 4.0 necessary for the 3090?
No, all benchmarks and slides were using a PCIE 3 computer. PCIE4 may provide some benefit, but we assume thats in the range of 1-5%. Not something to lose sleep over, or upgrade your whole computer before you are ready.
I have a question about DLSS that is kinda key in deciding which card to buy, if anyone would be so kind.
I have an LG B9 which only supports G-Sync in the range of 40-60fps on 4k resolution, and 40-120fps on 1440p. My question is, if I play a game in 1440p with DLSS reconstructing the image to 4k, what is my actual resolution in regards to the triggering of the G-Sync? Would I be able to play games in the 40-120fps sync range while the image is being reconstructed to 4k?
You will set your game resolution as 1440p 120hz or 4k 60hz, and then touch DLSS settings separately. And yes, you can always use DSR to supersample, DLSS same thing, but if you want 120hz, its going to be supersampled down from 4k to 1440p. your monitor doesn't give a shit about what the internal resolution is, only the frame presented to it.
Do we know why the 3090 is more than twice the price of the 3080? Why so much? Not that it matters much with the specs on the 70 and 80, but still.
It is a card for people who are prosumer and are using RTX Titan's to upgrade to. It's not a good value for a gaming card. Its at BEST 20% more performance, starting at $800 more. Gonna be even more than 1500 for AIB 3090s.
Also just noticed the number of inputs....damn
2 x HDMI 2.1
3 x DP 1.4a
5?!? Makes my TV seem old
Reference board is only 1x HDMI 2.1, some custom boards are adding an extra.
I usually upgrade every 2 generations. Pascal-Ampere seems like a solid upgrade path.
Jensen literally called you out in the video and said it was ok for you to now upgrade.
I just found out that we're getting HDR Shadowplay finally too. Nvidia not holding back.
Nice!
So RTX 3070 is 20 teraflops? Is this TRUE?
Of course this is true, unless we are all just a simulation, or a hallucination of an alien.
To everyone of y'all that sold their Turing cards just before the conference, I tip my hat. That was quite the heist!
Thank you! I feel so good that I sold it when I did ^_^
Unless the 3000 cards are instantly sold out for months.
Ye of little faith.
Agreed. I had a good experience with EVGA when I had to RMA a 780 Ti, so I'm inclined to stay with them. Hopefully, they allow you to turn off all the RGB shit on the FTW3.
I was able to turn off the RGB shit on 2080Ti FTW3, I have no reason to expect you can't this time.
Hmmmm, interesting, EVGA's RTX 3090 card is a two expansion card slot sized graphics card instead of being three expansion card slot sized like the FE RTX 3090:
The EVGA GeForce® RTXᐪᔿ 30 Series are the absolute definition of ultimate performance.
www.evga.com
Only the reference board. The FTW3 is a 2.75 slot beast. And the reason for this, is because one, they want you to pay more for the better FTW3, and two, some people can't fit more than 2 slot cards in their case and they still want to have a 3090 for them, without having them to go watercooling route.
What are the chances 3rd party cards could have more than one HDMI 2.1 port?
100%. Custom AIB's already have shown us that some of them have added an extra HDMI 2.1
so....the $499 RTX3070 is more powerful than 98% of the people's PC graphic card right now?
Going off steam, only 0.88% of people had a 2080 Ti.
So yeah $500 buys you more gaming power than 99% of computers currently have. What a time to be alive :)
Just saw this video a lot of info goes a bit over my head but am I right in assuming he is claiming that non rt performance from 2080ti to 3080 will be minimal?
This guy is fucking insane and full of shit. Watch Digital Foundry if you want some real information.
Are benchmarks out? Don't buy just based on what Nvidia say. It's marketing bullshit. Wait for benchmarks and see what they say.
Digitial Foundry has a limited benchmark right now for 3080. Watch the video, its good!
After some late night considering, I may go for a 3080 over a 3090
I mainly want to play at 4K 120hz, so the cheapest card that can get me close to that or on it would be the choice
My current 2070 super doesn't compare to even the 3080 so that's that
Having a difficult time deciding
Don't waste your money on the 3090, it is at BEST 20% faster than a 3080 at 4k. Not worth paying an extra $800+, you could be getting a PS5 or a new monitor, or half of an LG OLED with that kinda money. Or a whole lotta games!
Gotta make some space for the 3080 Ti.
Probably ~9500 cores and 16GB Vram. At £999 or £1,099 (3080 is 649 and 3090 is 1499)
This is not possible without completely fucking the bandwidth of the card up. It can only be either 10,11,12,20,22,24.... 3080 Ti will be a 12GB card, mark my words.
Really tempted to go for a 3080 instead of a 3070, but I only have a 650w PSU... Hopefully some brave soul can test the card out on a lower wattage PSU and see if it's fine or not.
Unless you have an overclocked 10900k, 650w is enough.
Is the 3090 double the performance of a 3080 or is the price just stupid?
The price is more than double for 20% (at best) of the performance at 4k.
3x 8 pin means you can provide more power to the card, this is useful for overclocking.
Yeah, it must some error, at best, dlss can give you around twice the fps, I don't get how they end up with such a difference.
Since 8K is 4x worse than 4k, some games will completely shit the bed at that resolution. And then DLSS makes up for it by being fucking incredible and rendering from 1440p to 8k.
Nvidia are hilarious.
Their timing is hilarious, these cards are announced just before the console launch. They completely shift the bar for performance, when it had felt like the consoles were kinda catching up.
They have also managed to fuck with the publics price perception over the last few years, to the eccentric that many people are looking at the 3080 as a bargain.
Funny guys!
Yeah I do feel that 2080 Ti performance on the 3070 for $500 is a bargain. The 3080 has better price / performance than even the 300 so yeah, I would consider it an even better bargain too. I guess if some people really think RDNA2 is about to drop cards with even better prices, you could think otherwise, but I think they should prepare to be dissapointed.
I slept all day because I stayed up all night to watch a dude in his kitchen, any impressions/benchmark vids to watch?
Lol! Hell no! These cards were just announced and everyone was caught blindsided.
Watch the Digital Foundry Video
Which is why Series X basing their whole marketing on '12 teraflops' looks very silly now. We got over 30 teraflops here. I think the next gen consoles have other perks, namely games, SSD and I/O.
Of course. In terms of raw horse power. The differentiating factor will be the console's unique storage array. They might be faster than what you can currently get on PCs but I think that is about it. So, you might be able to get faster load times on consoles, but when the game is loaded up, I think these GPUs will knock the socks off of the PS5 and XSX.
Load instantaneously, experience vast worlds with endless views and rich detail, and further improve gameplay by leveraging the power of GeForce RTX 30 Series graphics cards and NVIDIA RTX IO.
www.nvidia.com
Yup, even the one thing consoles had going for them, Nvidia has them beat.
I'm looking forward to someday having PCIE 4.0 SSD in my system.
Gotta love how they include the easy to run games just to make it look like it's a super beast at 8K...
Then you look at modern games that weren't already easy enough to run, and you have to think "OK, what's the fucking point?". Is the memory what's allowing the card to do this, and preventing the 3080 from achieving somewhat similar results? Still a moot point though since 8K anything will never be relevant to me probably for the rest of my life.
8K is 4x the pixels of 4k, and 16x of 1080p. NO game is "easy to run" at 8K. This requires tremendous, tremendous amounts of power and bandwidth.
3080 sounds good, but am I the only one really disappointed by the VRAM size?
Yeah the VRAM size is TERRIBLE, they are waaaaay too big of cards, and can you believe the PSU requirements? These cards LITERALLY require you to buy a new PC. I think y'all should just back out and wait for 4000 series.
Thank You. Seems like the 3080 is quite a bit more powerful than the 2080ti. The differences between the 3080 and 3090 is good but not as massive outside of the memory. So for the 3080 the only concern is the 10gb of VRAM. With next gen systems allocating about 13gb to games or so, wonder how this will impact the 3080.
Yeah, 10 gb is concerning, need more overhead over console like 16gb would be ideal... Then again console 13gb also include other things like audio etc which can be store on system memory on pc. Gears 5 for example has no issue handling ultra texture on my 2080 with 8gig vram but a 9gigs xbox one x can't.
3080's 10GB Ram is appalling. Should be at least 16GB. Once hype blows over, and people see 3080's RAM bottleneck, majority will go for 3070 or 3090 for serious gaming, me thins.
This is a public misconception about how much a game actually uses for VRAM, and the number you see in MSI Afterburner/Rivatuner, which includes caching.
We can take Flight Simulator 2020 for example, if you use the developer FPS overlay, it will tell you exactly how much the game is using.
On 4K, everything set to Ultra and all sliders to to the right except supersampling, FS2020 only uses 8GB of VRAM!
Everything above that is just the game caching assets that it may or may not need, and they will fill fill fill all that room up with potentially useless data, which is good because unused VRAM is wasted VRAM, but you will not have a performance disadvantage having a 10GB card in 4k gaming even including Next-Gen titles.
TL;DR: 10GB IS PLENTY FOR 4K Next-gen
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