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Nov 5, 2017
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This is the same launch time overclockers.co.uk has posted on their forums.
It lines up with times stores in EU are giving out for when GPUs come available for orders.
I think that confirms was was mentioned before - 2pm BST/9am EST?

I guess it is good that there is consensus among a broad range of people, that must mean 6am then. Especially if Nvidia themselves are saying 6am...
 

kostacurtas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Alternate.de got their first listings: RTX 3090 TUF for 1599, RTX 3090 TUF OC for 1629; 3080 is 759 and 788 respectively

No pre-orders obviously
PcComponentes (Spanish site) also added today some RTX 30 series listings:

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Nov 5, 2017
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EU stores getting updates for the new cards and I am still waiting for at least one big US store to refresh their site for the new cards...I know, I know....1st world problems...but still....
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I like the IO on the Aorus though, and what a massive cooler.

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Sweet baby jesus. Good thing I have a large case lol
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Man the 10GB thing is STILL being nitpicked? LMAO. But you all can clearly see a several years old modded PC game requires 40GB in 8k, so checkmate.
 

padlock

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Oct 27, 2017
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It won't. Or at least not before RTX2080Ti hits VRAM limitations. The memory bandwidth of the RTX2080Ti is 616GB/s. On the other hand, the memory bandwidth of the RTX3080 (thanks to GDDR6X) will be 760GB/s. As such, the RTX2080Ti will be the first GPU that will be bottlenecked in 4K.

As for HardwareUnboxed's 4K video, here are the memory bandwidths of the RTX2080 and GTX1080Ti.

RTX2080: Memory Bandwidth -> 448GB/s
GTX1080Ti: Memory Bandwidth -> 484GB/s

So yeah, from the get-go we knew that the GTX1080Ti would perform better in 4K (at least when it comes to more demanding VRAM games). That's not the case this time with RTX2080Ti and RTX3080.

Thanks for the response. So it looks like for games that are bandwidth limited, the 3080 should be about 25% faster than the 2080TI.

What kind of workloads are generally bandwidth limited? I'm guessing that ray tracing is probably more shader limited, whereas very high resolution textures would require more memory bandwidth (and physical VRAM). Is that right?
 
Oct 31, 2017
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The demand for 3080 at launch is going to be absurd and I was starting to have my doubts about grabbing one too.

I contacted one of the small online stores at my place and they told me they can't accept pre-orders but they will block and keep one 3080 in stock for me in advance :D

Sept 17th can't come soon enough now.
 

kostacurtas

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Oct 27, 2017
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EU stores getting updates for the new cards and I am still waiting for at least one big US store to refresh their site for the new cards...I know, I know....1st world problems...but still....
Launch is still days away and some vendors are probably still deciding on their final pricing.

Next week probably most stores will have their listings up.
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pro tip, pick a couple of AIB models to choose from.
So that if you don't get your 1st choice you're able to atleast buy your 2nd or 3rd choice.
 

Loanshark

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Nov 8, 2017
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Going to get me a 3080 next year. I wonder if my i7 7700k can keep up though, because Id rather not exchange everything the same year. I know its a bottleneck, but as long as the cpu isnt what keeps me under 60fps once i get the 3080, then im good for a while at least.
 

kostacurtas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Box.co.uk added listings for RTX 3090 and RTX 3080 cards.

Most listings don't have a price yet but the ASUS TUF models have prices and are the same as NVIDIAs MSRP.

 

H.Cornerstone

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Oct 27, 2017
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The demand for 3080 at launch is going to be absurd and I was starting to have my doubts about grabbing one too.

I contacted one of the small online stores at my place and they told me they can't accept pre-orders but they will block and keep one 3080 in stock for me in advance :D

Sept 17th can't come soon enough now.
yeah, I already resigned myself that I won't be able to get one until Spring 2021.
 

Buggy Loop

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Oct 27, 2017
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OMG this is ridiculous haha. At that point, just add 1 more slot to install CPU & RAM and you have a PC that is just a GPU.

With the 3090, you mount the GPU on the motherboard or do you mount the motherboard on the GPU?
 

reKon

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of my cousins who's generally knowledgeable about computer hardware said that he doesn't see what's a big deal about any of this pricing (as it's not a good deal).

Seem like he's way off here?
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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OMG this is ridiculous haha. At that point, just add 1 more slot to install CPU & RAM and you have a PC that is just a GPU.

With the 3090, you mount the GPU on the motherboard or do you mount the motherboard on the GPU?
The angle in that picture makes it look wrong, an ATX mobo is 9.6 inches long, the 3090 is is 12.3 inches long for nvidia ver, and it won't be any longer than 13-4 inches or so for that AIB model. But that picture makes it look like the motherboard is half the length of the 3090.
 

dunkzilla

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Dec 13, 2018
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The angle in that picture makes it look wrong, an ATX mobo is 9.6 inches long, the 3090 is is 12.3 inches long for nvidia ver, and it won't be any longer than 13-4 inches or so for that AIB model. But that picture makes it look like the motherboard is half the length of the 3090.
It's a mini ITX mobo.
 

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The angle in that picture makes it look wrong, an ATX mobo is 9.6 inches long, the 3090 is is 12.3 inches long for nvidia ver, and it won't be any longer than 13-4 inches or so for that AIB model. But that picture makes it look like the motherboard is half the length of the 3090.

That's a mini-ITX board
 

Rune Walsh

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Oct 25, 2017
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As someone who builds a very moderately-capable computer every 5-7 years, this is going to land me some sick upgrades in the fall. My computer is pre-Ryzen so it won't take much to completely overhaul for sub-$500.
 

GameAddict411

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Oct 26, 2017
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Going to get me a 3080 next year. I wonder if my i7 7700k can keep up though, because Id rather not exchange everything the same year. I know its a bottleneck, but as long as the cpu isnt what keeps me under 60fps once i get the 3080, then im good for a while at least.
You will be fine. Overclock the cpu for more performance. I know the 7700k overclock very well.
 

padlock

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Oct 27, 2017
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I hope AMD releases details about big navi before the 17th. If the rumors are to be believed, big Navi could have significant advantages over the 3080 with respect to power efficiency, memory bandwidth, amount of VRam and rasterization performance.

On the downside, it would probably trail in ray tracing and won't likely have anything like DLSS.

Normally, I would just wait before more details were known before making any decision, but all the talk of supply shortages might be triggering my FOMO.
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope AMD releases details about big navi before the 17th. If the rumors are to be believed, big Navi could have significant advantages over the 3080 with respect to power efficiency, memory bandwidth, amount of VRam and rasterization performance.

On the downside, it would probably trail in ray tracing and won't likely have anything like DLSS.

Normally, I would just wait before more details were known before making any decision, but all the talk of supply shortages might be triggering my FOMO.
I feel like the only way they have a VRAM advantage is if it's just in quantity i.e. it uses GDDR6 and not 6x. Additionally if they are aiming for $550 and reduced the price from $600 to that like the rumour from today suggested then it's likely gonna be sitting between a 3070 and a 3080 in terms of performance as well as price. They wouldn't decide on going from $600 to $550 of it was faster than the 3080 as at $600 it'll still be cheaper than 3080.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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OMG this is ridiculous haha. At that point, just add 1 more slot to install CPU & RAM and you have a PC that is just a GPU.

With the 3090, you mount the GPU on the motherboard or do you mount the motherboard on the GPU?

Yeah that's a mini motherboard. I saw a pic someone sent me earlier of the same thing lol. People freaking out.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Going to get me a 3080 next year. I wonder if my i7 7700k can keep up though, because Id rather not exchange everything the same year. I know its a bottleneck, but as long as the cpu isnt what keeps me under 60fps once i get the 3080, then im good for a while at least.

7700K with a 3080 should serve you well in gaming. I doubt that there will be games that are natively built around 8c/16t CPUs and PCIe 4.0 NVMe drives, though you may want to start thinking about that some time next year.
 

Temperance

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm kind of worried about sagging issues with these cards as well. If some company released some sort of bracket or plate that will help hold it up I'll pick on up. Kind of hard to believe so much weight is being put on some thin PCIE slot with these cards.

Something like this:
Bought a 1070 EVGA at launch and came with no backplate. Reports started popping about it noticeably bending. At least EVGA shipped out free backplates in response.
 

padlock

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like the only way they have a VRAM advantage is if it's just in quantity i.e. it uses GDDR6 and not 6x. Additionally if they are aiming for $550 and reduced the price from $600 to that like the rumour from today suggested then it's likely gonna be sitting between a 3070 and a 3080 in terms of performance as well as price. They wouldn't decide on going from $600 to $550 of it was faster than the 3080 as at $600 it'll still be cheaper than 3080.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I read they would be going with a 512 bit bus, so even if they use GDDR6, they could still have more bandwidth than the 3080.
 

BarnabyJones

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Oct 27, 2017
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There's just too many opinions flying around and I don't know what to believe lol. I just wanna know if I'll be okay getting a 3080 FE (or ICX EVGA model) with my 8700k at 1440p with my 650w EVGA Gold plus PSU. The goal is to just replace the card in my machine for the time being, then if bottlenecking or w/e occurs in the years to come, I'll upgrade in the near future. Would the 3080 be a worthy enough upgrade form a 1080ti at 1440p?
 
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Phonzo

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Oct 26, 2017
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One of my cousins who's generally knowledgeable about computer hardware said that he doesn't see what's a big deal about any of this pricing (as it's not a good deal).

Seem like he's way off here?
Its all relative. Should gpus cost as much as they do now? I dont think so, but we have been conditioned to it.

but for the increase in performance from last gen, it looks to be worth it.
 

Servbot24

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are there any PC Builder tools that have 3090s as an option? I'm 100% new to this and want a guide to what all I should be aiming for.