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snausages

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Not hitting 4k 60 on Control even with DLSS makes me wonder at the idea that it's wasted at less than 4K. I mean requirements for games only going to go up from now on.
 

Duxxy3

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Read a couple of reviews and watching the GN video but I am still not sure if I should buy a 3080 if I will be using i7 [email protected] with it for the foreseeable future.

Buying a 3080 depends entirely on what your monitor is, as well as what your current card is.

Not hitting 4k 60 on Control even with DLSS makes me wonder at the idea that it's wasted at less than 4K. I mean requirements for games only going to go up from now on.

I'm not sure we'll see a more demanding game, on the highest of settings, than Control. At least not for a while.
 

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TERRIBLE performance and value proposition. Nobody should try to buy one tomorrow, people should prefer the 20xx series. Especially in Germany. Please.
 

Toumari

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CelestialAtom

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So, regular 1440p seems to be a negligible area for those wanting to upgrade, but since 3440x1440 is pretty much close in processing power as 4K, I'm assuming those of us using Ultrawide will see a huge benefit?
 

exodus

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This one is telling to me:

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This is a fast card, and has the highest efficiency on the market. But for a 12nm -> 8nm die shrink, this is disappointing. NVidia has prided itself on efficiency in the past, and they've lost a lot of ground here. I wonder if AMD might trounce them in this regard.

Efficiency is the true measure of the advancements that have been made, and we're actually just looking at an 18% jump from the 2080 Ti here. I hope we're likely to see some large efficiency gains from the RTX 4000 series as the 8nm process matures.
 

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If this is true, I will try for the FE.

Other reviewers got different results

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Review - Must-Have for 4K Gamers

NVIDIA's new GeForce RTX 3080 "Ampere" Founders Edition is a truly impressive graphics card. It not only looks fantastic, performance is also better than even the RTX 2080 Ti. In our RTX 3080 Founders Edition review, we're also taking a close look at the new cooler, which runs quietly without...
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Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 FE im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme & OC

GeForce RTX 3080 FE im Test: Lautstärke, Temperatur, Leistungsaufnahme & OC / Lautstärke & Kühlung
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Mórríoghain

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Buying a 3080 depends entirely on what your monitor is, as well as what your current card is.

I have a 2070, recently bought a 1440p 144hz monitor. I was ok with my 2070 at 1080p and 60 fps but it is just not enough. I want over 100 fps at 1440p. 3080 seems like it will give me that but I am worried about my i7 6700k.
 

Legacy

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Sounds it sounds like maybe not the jump 2080 Ti owners were hoping for but fair game for everyone else?

I'll make the jump at some point from my RX 570 this year
 

laxu

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Nov 26, 2017
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3080 FE sucks for overclockers it seems (I kinda suspected this). It's power limited all the time. Hopefully 3x8pin AIB cards will be better. Also, seems like card runs into big diminishing returns at 1440p and especially 1080p, so it's basically a 4K card, over wise you are just wasting money.

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Absolutely. But that's great news for 1080p and 1440p players, they can spend even less for a 3070! Ultrawide 1440p users might still want the 3080 though as it's somewhere in between. Of course future games might change that equation so let's see how say Cyberpunk fares when it is released.

I expect that the AIB cards won't necessarily do much better. The cooler on the FE 3080 is already beefy and yet it is running at nearly 80C so expecting the coolers from AIBs to significantly outperform it might not happen. 80C on my Palit Gaming Pro 2080 Ti (reference board, 3rd party cooler) at least is the point where it starts to throttle to a more significant degree. Under 80C I can hold about 1900-1950 MHz boost clocks which seem to be pretty close to the 3080 FE clocks.
 

Sanctuary

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Oct 27, 2017
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What base resolution did they choose? All these review talk about DLSS in Control but they don't state if it's upscaled from 1440p or 1080p.

In the previous (non review) showcase, it was DLSS "at 4K", but I don't remember what they were upscaling from. They also intentionally picked "the hallway of doom" or whatever, since that was supposed to be really hard to run.

edit: Initially they were just showing performance increases gen to gen, and they said that Control was locked at 60fps. They said the resolution was 2227 x 1253 with ray tracing, but no upscaling. He says that's comparable to DLSS balanced mode. Which it appears to be when you take it from 1080p and upscale to 4K.

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Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Early Look: Ampere Architecture Performance - Hands-On!

Nvidia's reveal of the new Ampere architecture has just taken place... but we've already received a card and have some initial, early impressions and gen-on-...
 
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Around 25% faster than 2080 Ti is what I expected at first but that 1st September hype got to me a little I'll admit..
 

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The margins drop off a cliff when you overclock the 3080 and the 2080TI. As predicted.

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The 3080 doesnt have much power headroom, but the 2080TI did, which allows it to close the gap.

But that's FE vs AIB. So... let's wait for some AIB reviews I guess.
 

2Blackcats

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Any articles on how they work with C9 or CX yet? Was sure digital foundry would cover that but it was just a mention
 
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It's so annoying when tests list the idle noise just as 0dB.

I want to know how loud it is when it's hot weather and I do 4k YouTube and some Photoshop work at the same time. It won't be 0dB then.
 

Serene

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Cards are terrible guys, stay away

really, don't order them. they are bad. don't try and order any tomorrow.

trust me
 

Raydonn

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I don't want to say much, cause it wasn't really my words, but I did try to warn you guys to wait for benchmarks.

This was all leaked info!
 

Serious Sam

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Absolutely. But that's great news for 1080p and 1440p players, they can spend even less for a 3070! Ultrawide 1440p users might still want the 3080 though as it's somewhere in between. Of course future games might change that equation so let's see how say Cyberpunk fares when it is released.

I expect that the AIB cards won't necessarily do much better. The cooler on the FE 3080 is already beefy and yet it is running at nearly 80C so expecting the coolers from AIBs to significantly outperform it might not happen. 80C on my Palit Gaming Pro 2080 Ti (reference board, 3rd party cooler) at least is the point where it starts to throttle to a more significant degree. Under 80C I can hold about 1900-1950 MHz boost clocks which seem to be pretty close to the 3080 FE clocks.
I think AIB coolers will be better simply because they are larger in volume. 3090 FE cooler is the same design as 3080 FE, except it's a lot larger, so 3090 FE temps are about 10C lower than 3080 FE. It will be similar with big 3 lot AIB 3080 cards, they should run at around <70C (as a matter of fact we already have early leaked screenshots from AIB 3080 running at 70C).
 

PapaGoob

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Glad I jumped on the 2080 Ti for $450 last week. Saves me $400 bucks. Took a little bit of a gamble making assumptions about the leap in performance and it paid off