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Nostradamus

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Oct 28, 2017
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People that expected Demon's Souls to be higher are underestimating the size of install bases and expected attach rates. Even if we assume a drastically higher attach rate for exclusive launch games, we are talking about a US install base of a bit more than a million. There is no way a game can rank high on the November chart when it can realistically achieve half a million in sales. All other games sell in the millions and are available on install bases of hundreds of millions units.
 
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Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay I need some help but we might have anm reasonable estimate on Just Dance sales.

We know it did worse than Just Dance 3 and better than Just Dance 4. The former did less than 550k and the latter better than 509k.

We should factor in the difference in ASP. Do anyone remember the difference in ASP ?
 

Noobie

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Oct 28, 2017
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Have we got any Software unit sales ranges? How many units COD sold and where the Spiderman sales should be expected, Is 1 million a good guess?
 

JCal

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gaddamn, Luigi jumped ahead 11 places in line simply because of the Black Friday sales. People were really holding out, huh? lol
 
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Soulsis

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's so weird that Nintendo digital sales aren't counted in these charts. Not sure how many Nintendo players buy digital vs physical but is it possible Animal Crossing is actually the highest selling game of the year?
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's so weird that Nintendo digital sales aren't counted in these charts. Not sure how many Nintendo players buy digital vs physical but is it possible Animal Crossing is actually the highest selling game of the year?
Its not really weird, cant count what you dont have access to. Nintendo doesnt really care and there isnt anything NPD can do about it.

But yeah obv. Nintendo would do even better in these charts with digital added.
 

Soulsis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Its not really weird, cant count what you dont have access to. Nintendo doesnt really care and there isnt anything NPD can do about it.

But yeah obv. Nintendo would do even better in these charts with digital added.

Yeah true, would just be cool to properly gauge Nintendo's SW performance since the real numbers could potentially be double what we're seeing. It's kind of moot seeing Zelda at #6 when the total numbers would actually put it at #3 or #2. Oh well
 
Oct 25, 2017
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November Switch numbers out for Canada via Nintendo PR.

I's very rare to get numbers from Nintendo for the Canadian market. As expected, the Switch has done incredibly well this year.

148,000 units in November, 790,000 YTD. 2020 is up significantly, Switch sold 628,000 units for all of 2019.

Switch has been the best selling console in Canada for 25 consecutive months (a record).

Nintendo Canada PR
 

Raigor

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May 14, 2020
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PC sales from Steam will be counted for Cyperpunk.

Still Cyberpunk only has a month so it will be difficult to outsell COD/AC.

Nothing digital from Cyberpunk will be counted.

All digital versions are published by CDPR and they are not NPD subscribers. We are only getting physical sales thanks to Warner Bros and nothing more for NPD.
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
47,274
Cod is fucking untouchable unless there's a rockstar game launch

curious if cyberpunk could even come close...
 

IronTed

One Winged Slayer
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Jun 6, 2019
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November Switch numbers out for Canada via Nintendo PR.

I's very rare to get numbers from Nintendo for the Canadian market. As expected, the Switch has done incredibly well this year.

148,000 units in November, 790,000 YTD. 2020 is up significantly, Switch sold 628,000 units for all of 2019.

Switch has been the best selling console in Canada for 25 consecutive months (a record).

Nintendo Canada PR

Nice. Nintendo has historically done well Canada, so no surprise there
 

Dekuman

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Oct 27, 2017
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AC: NH did not have an asterix next to it, does it mean Nintendo provided digital data for that title?
 

ClydeBonFrog

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Apr 17, 2018
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This might be a little in the weeds, but I found an Xbox wire article from september 13, about the August 2013 NPD numbers, and it's claiming that the 360 was the top selling console for 32 consecutive months. Is this a typo, because as stated in this NPD the Switch's 24 consecutive months is the record. Just confused by this.

 

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This might be a little in the weeds, but I found an Xbox wire article from september 13, about the August 2013 NPD numbers, and it's claiming that the 360 was the top selling console for 32 consecutive months. Is this a typo, because as stated in this NPD the Switch's 24 consecutive months is the record. Just confused by this.

That doesn't include handhelds
 

Rurunaki

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Oct 27, 2017
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Was expecting Demons to be higher then I realized.. there's really not that much ps5 in the wild right now and that it's competing against cross gen games.
 

ShadowFox08

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Nov 25, 2017
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Hyrule warriors did amazing for being on a single platform for November, and a late November tease.. 1-5 are all multiplatform games and the typical cod/AC/sports games, so it's no surprise. Spiderman is an exception, as it's only available on ps4 and ps5, but marvel spiderman brand is strong and it IS on a +100M platform as well.

animal crossing and mk8 deluxe are doing excellent as well
 
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NekoNeko

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hyrule warriors did amazing for being on a single platform for November, and a late November tease.. 1-5 are all multiplatform games and the typical cod/AC/sports games, so it's no surprise.

animal crossing and mk8 deluxe are doing excellent as well
it's also physical only with no digital sales compared to everything above sans 2k.
 

UltraMagnus

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Oct 27, 2017
15,670
Ring Fit doesn't seem to be as big of a hit in the US market as Japan (relative to the size of the market).
 

IronTed

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Jun 6, 2019
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So I've been looking at the numbers we have. In 2019 the Switch was ~400k from being a majority of units (obviously legacy systems exist but at this point they are very small). Up until October the PS4 and XBO are at ~3.2 million. Let's says for Nov/Dec they move 400k (based on their shipments I feel this may be even optimistic if anything). Let's say the PS5/XSX sold 1300k/900k in Nov (this is basically the upper limit for both). Finally, they both somehow sell 1300k in Dec. Add that up and you get about 8.4 million. We know through Nov the Switch is at ~6.9 million (tad higher actually). So the Switch needs to only sell about 1.5 million to be a majority of units.

Looking in the past, post NES, 1998 seems the only plausible year where a system (this case the PS1) was a majority of units sold. Granted the 90's numbers out there aren't exact, and NPD makes revisions, but it's very possible the PS1 did so. So this could be a very notable year in that regard.

If you widen the net to a hardware maker having a majority of units, then Nintendo 1999, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2007-2010, and maybe 2019 (depending on how much 3DW did that year) could qualify. And again, probably Sony 1998 too.

Alternatively, if you only want to look at home consoles, then definitely PS1 1998, probably PS1 1999, PS2 2002, and 2005 qualify.
 
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Jaded Alyx

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah true, would just be cool to properly gauge Nintendo's SW performance since the real numbers could potentially be double what we're seeing. It's kind of moot seeing Zelda at #6 when the total numbers would actually put it at #3 or #2. Oh well
So long as we get actual numbers from Nintendo regularly (which we do), then it's fine.