Pretty sure this is preferred over fixit nowadays: https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/fallout-et-tu-release-v1-4.220052/
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Now that Fallout 1 and 2 are on Xbox GamePass (PC), are they worth playing?
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3 really has nothing to do with these games.
Treat this like a completely different genre and decide if you want to dive into the top down world of crpgs. I think everyone should, but I think it'll be a big struggle unless you are really into reading, are patient and your gaming soul hasn't been completely destroyed by the "modern" garbage.
I beat them both. Loved both, what I meant by my comparison was with the way they handled their narratives. Fallout 1 felt pretty straight forward while Fallout 2 had a bit more freedom of choice.
Depends how much you really have the patience to play old pen and paper inspired RPGs.
The writing and characters and gameplay are incredible if you can.
The writing and characters and gameplay are incredible if you can.
I get what the poster you quoted is getting at but this made me chuckle. The shade.
2 is amazing. 1 is ok but you get a pretty good synopsis of what it was mostly about in the beginning of 2 and the game itself is a lot more dated.
They're worth trying, but I find them really hard to go back to even though I was a big fan of Fallout 2 when it was relevant.
Would you be into crpgs if you had not played it? I can imagine a select few who did Baldurs Gate but missed Fallout because money or something, but I would expect it would be few.
From there you could only be a fan of modern "crpgs", which are just really "cs" given they don't really have role playing and attempts like dragon age inquisition are barely games.
Nothing on game pass is modable, windows store installs are cursed
Wait really? How?
Moddable games have been a thing for a while on windows store, and most bethesda RPGs support it. Once you enable mods in xbox app it will move game out of windowsapps container into a regular fully unlocked folder
Well I don't hate them they do their own thing, but yeah they don't hold a candle to the past games writing or choices.
I mean, New Vegas is a really good approximation, but FO3 was like, hey it has SPECIAL and VATS. Sorry, but targetting a Super Mutant in the groin was not the reason Fallout was ever good, you guys. It was cool that you could, but like, write some better dialogue, make choices in quests meaningful, let the player play the way they want.
All of the things we consider 'immersive sim' now are basically just classic WRPG tropes (ported to FPS' via deus Ex).
I don't even play those types of games for roleplaying anymore because they're just not very good at that frankly. But I don't think Fallout 1 and 2 are really that much better, I'm pretty picky though.
I consider them to be the best RPGs ever created, so yes. They have aged very well, imo, but you probably should mod them to allow higher resolutions.
I actually played Fallout's 1 and 2 for the first time 2 years ago. I had a blast with them, but it helps that I played a modern crpg before delving into it. I'm trying to play Baldur's Gate now and It's way more difficult for me to get into than Fallout was.
Apologies for the ultra-necro bump but...
Fallout 1 on Gamepass already includes the High Resolution mods! You can put it on 4K with 2X scaling without having to mod anything. Just install via Xbox Gamepass and ... play!
No one seems to mention this on the internet, so I wanted to let some of you know.
It is still the same old classic Fallout underneath but Im playing it from the couch right now on a 65 OLED and, it still holds up!
Fallout 1 on Gamepass already includes the High Resolution mods! You can put it on 4K with 2X scaling without having to mod anything. Just install via Xbox Gamepass and ... play!
No one seems to mention this on the internet, so I wanted to let some of you know.
It is still the same old classic Fallout underneath but Im playing it from the couch right now on a 65 OLED and, it still holds up!
I only installed 1, but I would assume 2 has the same fixes. If not, you could always manually install them (although that is far less convenient).
I have been playing 1 for hours, no crashes or anything funny, on Windows 11.
Man, the BG music in F1 is something else.
Both Fallout 1&2 benefit from playing on PC. Just get them on GoG or Steam for a pittance in next sale. They will run on a toaster.
Thing is there are great mods that improve overall experience, hence PC recommendation and not just for resolution.
Thing is there are great mods that improve overall experience, hence PC recommendation and not just for resolution.
They can only be played on PC I believe.
I already have the games in physical form, in GOG, in Steam and now in Gamepass (on PC) . My update is to let ERA users know that the Gamepass version is "plug and play", no need to mod anything to be able to run in higher res and with scaling on modern systems and displays.
If users already have Gamepass on PC, then they can try these games "for free".
So its the same as Steam/GoG version were for years, i don't many reasons for such excitement tbh 😅
Interesting, when I bought it on GOG (like 10 years ago) it barely ran at 640x480 and I had to install like 3 mods on top, which kept crashing. My physical releases were no longer an option (dont have an optical drive since 2008).
If the game is packaged like this in all recent releases, then fantastic! Being included on Gamepass could be what some people needed in order to try them out though.
As long as you're prepared to make concessions and be patient with them, they're fantastic games. Just don't expect them to be easy to get into.
They are very different games, to a lesser extent like someone who played Resident Evil 8 asking if they would like the original Resident Evil. It's almost impossible to tell on that info alone. They are great however.
*Edit ha fuck sake old ass bump lol.
Yea I think Bethesda reloaded a patched version in 2015 roughly? The current ones never had a patch but I used to have issues with it too on Steam and no longer do.
*Edit ha fuck sake old ass bump lol.
Yea I think Bethesda reloaded a patched version in 2015 roughly? The current ones never had a patch but I used to have issues with it too on Steam and no longer do.
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I don't agree with people saying to skip FO1. FO1 has far superior atmosphere and locations. It wasn't nearly as whacky as FO2 and it was a better game for it, imo.
I actually pity those that were too young or maybe didnt even exist (ugh, Im so old) and were not able to experience these and other classics back in the day.
Games like FO, Syndicate, Dune, etc were so groundbreaking that it completely immersed me as a kid. No games past the PS1 era has been able to capture my attention like that era did. It would be hard to get in to it just on a visual basis, but yes, please try it out.
Games like FO, Syndicate, Dune, etc were so groundbreaking that it completely immersed me as a kid. No games past the PS1 era has been able to capture my attention like that era did. It would be hard to get in to it just on a visual basis, but yes, please try it out.
yup. Fallout 1 wold-building with Fallout 2 structure/scale would be the ideal game for me. The 'humour' in FO2 is terrible.
I mean, objectively you are correct. Subjectively I love Fallout 2 and its silliness. Could be nostalgia talking but it's one of my favorite RPGs of all times.
Really slow starters and if you are not accustomed to the 90s early 00s isometric CRPGs then they really have to grab you in order to enjoy them. Great stories, top notch world building and overall great games for sure, but they are products of a time where everything wasn't seamless and intuitive when it game to gameplay.
As last resort, try Fallout 2 with character editor and make a character that manages to survive early on so starter stuff doesn't feel like a tutortial.
As last resort, try Fallout 2 with character editor and make a character that manages to survive early on so starter stuff doesn't feel like a tutortial.
I played Fallout 1 for the first time a couple years back, and I thought it held it really damn well for what it is. I didn't struggle with it being dated. Only mod I used was a graphics mod.
