Don't people die due to lung damage caused by Pneumonia?
I would think getting pneumonia is showing symptoms.
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Don't people die due to lung damage caused by Pneumonia?
I would think getting pneumonia is showing symptoms.
According to the WHO's latest paper, most people develop symptoms.
80% mild to moderate.
14% serious.
6 % critical.
Maybe what they mean is that people with mild symptoms will not be included.
The logic in this I do not understand.
I guess these two don't entirely contradict each other (60% is "most of"), but the don't immediately sound like they align.
Well then, those numbers from China and Italy really don't make much sense.
In Austria there's a hot line for this and the recommendation is not to go to the doctor, call the line and doctors in proper gear will come to check you at home if needed.
Nah, apart from Iran (fuck me) almost every country has taken a zero tolerance approach and proactively tried to avoid the first steps china did back in December. They succeeded. Likely brought a whole load of time to implement procedures to save countless lives too. Even in sk the case rate has fallen dramatically since last week. If the globe did what china did to begin with and missed that crucial window, then the global strife would be 100x fold and we would be at almost six digit death toll.
Hubei was turbofucked before any real action was taken. Like at the point of collapse.
You even have largely anti vax parts of governments like Italy take massive action to avoid a gigantic caseload like China had in January.
Yes, whilst the us gov is being almost as bad as China in dealing with the first stages of outbreaks there, the cdc, states, and other agencies are doing what they can given the powers they have.
Can they do much more? You bet, but they cant because of trump and co. Even they are allocating billions to fight this. Not enough no, but chinese local government effectively buried its head in the sand when this disease was first discovered. Then told the people who knew to shut the fuck up.
No, that I can understand. Absolutely. But I always see little to no point in worrying and stress. Those just have an untold toll on your body and mind. But by all means, be concerned and use that to avoid getting this at all costs due to your asthma.
Only fools ignore real danger like this virus is and brush it off and stay in ignorance. You have to keep up with the facts coming out.
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Being cautious is not overkill. If you are given the opportunity, take it. It can only help if you limit risk to yourself and others.
Leaving out the age distribution out of any numbers seems strange at this point.
The reason why you would die from this disease would be your lungs becoming inflamed and essentially failing to oxygenate your blood. You'd most certainly develop some other symptoms such as a cough and a fever were this to happen. Not to mention shortness of breath... yeah, you'd notice this happening to your body.
Nah, I think it talks about two different things. People can test positive without having any symptoms yet and they won't be counted. But most likely these people will get some symptoms at some point (more or less severe).
Yeah I did wonder if they meant asymptomatic at that moment. Seems very ill-advised.
As long as these people are still quarantined and asked about whom they've been in contact it's just PR.
Heat map of China from Jan 23, 2020 to Jan 30, 2020:
Heat map of China from Feb 19, 2020 to Feb 26, 2020:
Whatever environmental effect there was, it obviously does not last very long.
Heat map of China from Feb 19, 2020 to Feb 26, 2020:
Whatever environmental effect there was, it obviously does not last very long.
A ton of photos and a detailed interview of someone that was on the Diamond Princess.
Diamond Princess cruise passengers share photos from quarantine
"I keep harkening back to all these zombie movies that have been made over the last decade," a student said. "Nobody wants to be deemed as infected."
www.businessinsider.com
1. The mortality rate is nowhere near 3%.
2. Efforts beyond basic hygiene to contain the spread of the virus have been futile.
3. If you're older or have other health conditions, I totally get going above and beyond to limit your exposure (as minimal of an impact as it might have). But if you're young-to-middle-aged and healthy, you're putting in a whole lot of unsuccessful effort and anxiety by going beyond basic hygiene.
I strongly recommend that you contact your local health department. Find a number, call them, explain your situation, and make sure they have all your information if requested.
The ability to test for infection should be greater over the coming week than it is right now, and if you have the virus, there's a lot of information they can use from you about how you were exposed and who else may be at risk (as well as keeping you and the people who may have come into contact with you safe).
"There are currently 88,320 confirmed cases worldwide, including 3,000 fatalities."
Coronavirus death rate: What are the chances of dying?
The current best guess of a 1% death rate does not apply to everyone.
www.bbc.com
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I was told that vitamin D and Turmeric will greatly boost your bodies ability to fight the virus and mitigate the symptoms. Maybe that's why India hasn't had many outbreaks? Lots of sun and everyone eats turmeric everyday.
I am self-quarantining for the time being. I'm a big baby and despite having those systems I can't distinguish this from the cold or a light flu; I am going to call out of work for a day or two and see if I feel better. If not, then sure, though I am in Utah and I'd have to be pretty unlucky to get it first.
The denominator is actually much higher because many aren't tested and many are asymptomatic or have symptoms too mild to notice.
Coronavirus death rate: What are the chances of dying?
The current best guess of a 1% death rate does not apply to everyone.
That study is using data collected outside China until 8th of February. We know that the situation changed dramatically since then.
Okay asking again. I'm supposed to be going to Prague this Friday with my family for 10 days. I heard that the Czech republic now has 3 reported cases of coronavirus, all three of which came from Italy.
Am I at risk? I was really hoping to go there and make out with some fine European ladies.
Am I at risk? I was really hoping to go there and make out with some fine European ladies.
Not in the long run according to the WHO study published recently based on the data collected in China.
Metrolinx working to contact passengers of GO bus that transported COVID-19 patient - Toronto | Globalnews.ca
The woman boarded GO bus number 40 at Pearson Airport on Wednesday around 3:55 p.m. and went eastbound until getting off at Richmond Hill Centre Terminal.
globalnews.ca
the latest case in Canada took a GO Bus from the airport, the bus then operated for a day before being pulled and disinfected.
3 people out of 10.5 million? I think your chances of catching it are highly unlikely. Do you know where in the Czech Republic the cases are? Are they actually in Prague?
That isn't how statistics or disease modeling work. There's a hell of a lot more to it than simply dividing confirmed deaths by confirmed cases. For example here's a study by Imperial College (Neil Ferguson, his work on this outbreak has been cited extensively) that estimates about 1%. Here's another from AABB that estimates 0.94% after revisions with additional data.
We obviously won't truly know until the outbreak is over but pretty much every proper study at this point is pointing to around 0.5-2%. Very bad but when we're talking thousands, even millions of infections there's a huge difference in even single percentages.
So 2 people near/in Seattle area hospitalized with Coronavirus who had close contact with a bunch of people and they're still trying to find out who.
I've had 3/4ths on these symptoms for almost three weeks. Wife started the same a week ago. Live in Snohomish County, WA. There has been no trace contact with anyone directly overseas outside of an early interaction in January with a coworker coming back from Shangahi. I just assumed it was just a seasonal cold. Went into isolation late last week as a precaution, only going out at odd times to get supplies.
Not worried because our symptoms are mild and we are healthy. Just annoyed that there is no clear or straightforward way to get tested.
And I already wrote the first study used data from outside China up until 8th of February.
The second study States:
"Current Outbreak
In addition to the China outbreak, there are 21 countries with confirmed 2019-nCoV cases,
almost all acquired during travel to China. "
So yeah. Things outside China changed dramatically since then.
Australia just had its first death, in Perth:
www.smh.com.au
The 78-year old man was on the Diamond Princess.
There's also some news that some people who flew back from Iran to Sydney via Qatar have become sick with Coronavirus, and there may have been a person to person transmission here.
As the day unfolded: First person-to-person transmission of COVID-19 confirmed in Sydney
Australia has recorded its first coronavirus death as fears grow that a local outbreak of the disease is imminent.
The 78-year old man was on the Diamond Princess.
There's also some news that some people who flew back from Iran to Sydney via Qatar have become sick with Coronavirus, and there may have been a person to person transmission here.
I mean, if you are healthy why not?
Bars and restaurants were absolutly packed here in my area (austria, 14 cases). as usual on saturday nights.
As with another person above, I strongly recommend you contact your local health department and explain your situation, giving them all the relevant information if requested.
It should be easier to get tested in coming days, and if you are infected, they can use the information you provide about how you may have been exposed and who you've come into contact with since that exposure (as you may have passed it on to other people). They may also be able to help with monitoring your condition and getting you access to treatment if it becomes necessary.
In China they are obligated to report even mild symptoms to authorities. That's why the WHO didn't find many mild cases of COVID not detected. And the CFR is as of today 3,6% with 79,824 cases and 2,870 deaths.
And this is with some crazy draconian containment measures.
For my work during busy times of the year, I end up having to order out and expense the meal.
I'm assuming it would be much safer (if I have to) order from places in which employees likely to be granted sick pay. Ideally, I'd like to avoid ordering out, but sometimes it's not feasible due to the lack of time to cook...
The nightmare scenario I can see for a city like Chicago/New York is a symptomatic/asymptomatic restaurant worker being infected and spreading that to a shitload of customers/employees. That's just a high risk situation waiting to happen.
I'm assuming it would be much safer (if I have to) order from places in which employees likely to be granted sick pay. Ideally, I'd like to avoid ordering out, but sometimes it's not feasible due to the lack of time to cook...
The nightmare scenario I can see for a city like Chicago/New York is a symptomatic/asymptomatic restaurant worker being infected and spreading that to a shitload of customers/employees. That's just a high risk situation waiting to happen.
No, I'm claiming that there is no proof that there are enough unreported cases where they really test the people to significantly reduce the mortality rate as you claim using a study that uses outdated data.
Where they don't test enough yet (like in US) both infected and deaths are in very low numbers.
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wtf