If I was younger and had time I'd do it, how many times do you get an opportunity to be part of the Super Bowl?
NFL Super Bowl wants 600 people to attend 9 rehearsals and move scenery during Half Time for minimum wage and then leave the venue
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The NFL also forces cities that host the Super Bowl to pay for their accommodations the week of the game. It is amazing how much power they have.
Allegedly NFL and MLB teams buy politicians and pressure cities into paying huge amounts for them and their stadiums and events, which studies show don't make the money back for the cities
The NFL is not tax exempt:
How is this any different than what FIFA or the Olympics do? Host nations are practically bankrupting their countries building stadiums and accommodations for these events that will basically never be used again.
I didn't say it was different or that those were a good idea. FIFA is trash and the Olympics have left abandoned expensive complexes all over the world.
None of it is fair, and the NFL is king of it in the USA
There has been push back on that in recent years. For example, the Cubs didn't get any tax dollars to renovate Wrigley Field.
But yea, tax payer funded stadiums have been a thing for a long time.
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They really should be getting a percentage of back end and possibly some options or RSUs. #nflfail
Look, IATSE charges extra for Sunday's. The NFL isn't made of money.
I brought up FIFA and the IOC/Olympics because their volunteers work for free and pay for their own travel and accommodations. FWIW, the Tokyo Olympics this summer will rely on 80,000 volunteers. For which they have received over 200,000 applications. They will not be paid, outside of free meals on days that they work.
How would that possibly work? Why would anyone who signs up for this show up to actually move the stage at the end of the second quarter? Usually these people get to hang out near the stadium and watch the game on tv while it's happening so it's not like they can't watch any of it.
I like how since it's "unskilled labor", the workers deserve to get paid like shit.
This is the worst leftist forum.
This is the worst leftist forum.
It's not that they "deserve" this low wage, it's that, minimum wage is $7.70 and this is more than that.
Should it be higher?
Yes
Is it up to the NFL to raise it?
Not really.
people just need to vote blue.
That's capitalism for you: you generally pay workers as little as you can get away with. A lot of the people working at sports venues (ushers, concessions, etc.) are actually volunteers who get paid literally nothing.
It sucks, but glamor and excitement make it easy to take advantage of people.
It sucks, but glamor and excitement make it easy to take advantage of people.
$7.70 (which is nasty as f) is not minimum wage in Florida. Additionally, the minimum wage is not a living wage in Florida either. It's ridiculously low after all these decades.
I'm just curious why you think this short term gig is supposed to supply people with a living wage
So, you're saying people should be paid an equivalent of the company's profits, instead of being paid for the type of work they do? This type of thinking is ridiculous. This is a temp job that requires no education for people who want to make some extra cash. The expectations are perfectly reasonable.
The NFL has been doing this for years, and if I remember correctly, they used to ask for unpaid volunteers. Correction, that was for the fans around the stage at halftime who just want the experience. But neither groups get to see the game. If people want to do it for the experience, then it's their choice and I don't see anything wrong with it.
are you one of those people who thinks minimum wage is at a good level, particularly in a populous state like the one this event is in?
No of course it should be higher
But I dotn really think this one event that's not gonna be a steady source of income for people really has anything to do with what the minimum wage is
if the wage was higher, which like I said it should be, then the NFL would pay more.
but it'snot
And for this type of odd job you might get a bunch of people who aren't even really participating in the work force to get in this.
I'm curious why you think short term work should pay less than long term work. In general, short term gigs pretty regularly pay MORE per hour than longer, more permanent jobs. That's the trade off for being gig work rather than reliable, regular sources of income.
Lots of people are desperate for gigs and work all short term because they have no choice and can't get into the full time work force. Just because the gig sounds fun or short to you, doesn't mean the people who are interested in getting paid should be valued at the ridiculously low legal minimum when hired for the most profitable event in American sports.
This is like shorter than short term
y'all know the Super Bowl is in like two weeks right?
idk man, not everything all the time is THE FIGHT, you know?
This is just supplemental income
No one should be planning to pay their rent off this what, once every like 5 years in Miami event?
Absolutely. But I also think it's inherently unrealistic for a gig like this to be the sort of thing that does pay enough to be a living wage on its' own. It's a job for physical labor, over a very short period of time.
Ideally, short term jobs like this could be sourced out through a temp agency that allows labor to string similar gigs together into a consistent income source - but for an event the scale of the Super Bowl, you're going to need a lot of people that may just be in it for the novelty of being part of a halftime show.
I think the NFL could absolutely do better with how they're compensating their labor here - but acting like this is a particularly heinous act seems odd.
I agree -- but it's actually one of the reasons I think the people involved need to be paid more!
Hell, it's the work that's supposedly unskilled, not the people doing it.
Just because you pick up short term gigs, does not mean they should get to pay you terrible wages for the hours they want you there. If all you get is a bunch of short term jobs because you are poor or in contract work or don't have college skill sets, these wages being ok with people just fuck people over. The NFL shouldn't be some exemption because they're the cool kids.
True. In the early-'90s a lot of experienced engineers around here were taking entry-level, minimum wage jobs, including fast food. It didn't make them any less skilled. A lot of them really sucked at those jobs, too
I guess my question then is, why is this inherently worse than the people working concessions inside the stadium who are also probably making minimum wage? That's also a seasonal gig, also prone to unknown hours, and also unable to provide workers with enough money to pay bills.
Why exactly is the specific role of "person moving equipment" what we're raising hell about? Because as is, this just seems like a really wierd & confusing angle to get angry about the minimum wage.
This should be an IATSE contract as far as I am concerned and should get paid IATSE wages.
This one is getting attention because it's on the most profitable night of the year in sports and being handled by a multi-billion revenue organization
Minimum wage is stupid low and with the millions they rake in with advertising... I mean, come on. Treat these people better. It's still exploitation.
The concession workers are also working during the Super Bowl. Many of them are probably also working single night contracts to accommodate the large crowds.
Like, I get it. This is a story because it's the Super Bowl, and the halftime show is a whole big event. It's an appealing headline. But I just don't understand if job posting actually warrants the outrage, or if it's just a place to focus existing anger about the state of the minimum wage & short-term labor. Are they dodging work with an existing labor union? Have similar roles for previous halftime shows paid more?