I don't think Samurai G0SU was questioning Klee's credibility. I think he was trying to be funny but he didn't word it quite properly...Read your post again. If you can't see how that's an attack, then I don't know what to tell you.
I don't think Samurai G0SU was questioning Klee's credibility. I think he was trying to be funny but he didn't word it quite properly...Read your post again. If you can't see how that's an attack, then I don't know what to tell you.
Reported! Intentional torturing of all the members.
Could you imagine how large that would have to be? The surface area required to efficiently cool it would be insane.
I'd prefer an external brick for both, no matter what. But passive cooling on this scale, you're looking at a bigger and heavier console. Logistics costs would be passed on to us.
Alright, I think it's time the mods actually verified the information Klee has because at this point this thread is derailed to hell
That's one hell of a tease-and-run
Lmao never realized thatI think that depends on whether Klee intends to give us that information prior to other sources leaking it first.
Also your name is too close to mine, I think we might have to find a new one for you :P
IMO, he has shared enough. And probably don't want to share numbers (for now?) because as he said, things may change any time, and also to keep the anonymity of his ource(s).Forgive my ignorance re: leaks, but I've gotta ask; if this Klee bloke knows exact numbers, why does he not share them?
I've always believed people overestimated Playstation's market leadership position, and I still believe this. So many things went wrong in the lead up to Xbox One that it was at times comical in nature. Xbox 360, even with ps3's missteps, proved that with the right strategy and combination of games to offer people out the gate, xbox can compete and compete very evenly or even beat playstation. Sony and their first party is excellent. They are far from beyond Xbox's reach for legit competition. Xbox did it with the xbox 360 on multiple fronts, jrpg offerings and the like. It was a while before PS3 really started hitting its stride and xbox 360 started to wind down.
For people saying Microsoft is already doing gamepass and xbox one s + xbox one x and sony is still winning, that is not the same thing as entering an entirely new gen with the proper focus, launching with a big gun like Halo, the offering that is gamepass with all those games plus your entire xbox one collection along with BC games available day one. Toss in xcloud and it becomes more interesting. A console that even if it should not have the performance crown, will not be as disadvantaged as xbox one was in likely price or performance. And possibly with a cheaper model available to undercut the competition day one, it can gain momentum even without the higher end model outselling ps5. These things are not as impossible as some think. Microsoft fell into a weakened or down position, but they were never completely out of true contention with playstation. Maybe they were if all you were counting was console sales. We know microsoft needed to do better on first party, but clearly we've seen they've taken serious steps to correct that, and I have faith they will strike true in those efforts.
Lastly, people always underestimate the importance of price to the larger market. They don't all think like us who want the most powerful thing we can buy.
In the form it was drawn, not much. The plates themselves would have to be VCs and the fin stacks on each end of the heat pipes would have to be pretty substantial as well. On top of that, maybe a sheet of copper over the mobo do dissipate more heat. In either case, even a single 140mm fan spinning at low speeds would help immensely.Honestly, I'd pay for it. With speculation about the PS5's cooling solution like that drawing that was posted a couple days ago utilizing a top and bottom heatsink I wonder how much heat that alone could dissipate.
lol, same :)Lmao never realized that
Too bad every online ID i have is vinftw :p
Also your name is too close to mine, I think we might have to find a new one for you :P
Both sets of fans are terrible, you just happen to see what you're looking for.Twitter is full of MisterXMedia types that I'm not surprised. I think it's worse on MS side because of the MisterXMedia forum and following.
Seriously, it's not a dig at any Xbox fans here or anywhere, but while trying to find info on next gen these types are like locusts on twitter.
Both sets of fans are terrible you just see what you're looking for.
Yes, I know. But no one but Klee said it would be RDNA based, double digits and better than the (then) newly announced Navi GPU's. Go back and read those threads. Almost everyone was assuming that what we'd be getting for next-gen would be 8-9 RDNA tflops because a 8 tflops RDNA GPU is essentially as powerful as a 10 tflops GCN GPU.who is no one else? back when Stadia was revealed Jason already said both were aiming to be over 10TF
Obviously, but when looking at twitter the misterxmedia peeps are more prevalent, or rather more toxic.Both sets of fans are terrible you just see what you're looking for.
It's fanboy fuel. People will use any advantage as ammo in their war.People are going crazy for a TF difference that will be almost impossible to notice... LOL
Oh boy those DF threads are gonna be so HOT!!!
Obviously, but when looking at twitter the misterxmedia peeps are more prevalent, or rather more toxic.
In the form it was drawn, not much. The plates themselves would have to be VCs and the fin stacks on each end of the heat pipes would have to be pretty substantial as well. On top of that, maybe a sheet of copper over the mobo do dissipate more heat. In either case, even a single 140mm fan spinning at low speeds would help immensely.
Man I would love that! I am just receiving parts for a new PC I am building and I ended with a White case for it. I have 2 Sub-Woofers as part of my audio set up and I already was planning on putting the White PC on top of one and the Series X on the other. Having the Series X in White would look incredible with my set up having a high-end PC in White and the Series X in white on the left/right sides of my entertainment center.Someone at 4chan had this rumor that a white Xbox is coming. People are calling it fake (and probably is) but I really like how the box looks like and think the white Series X looks awesome.
What did he tease?Alright, I think it's time the mods actually verified the information Klee has because at this point this thread is derailed to hell
That's one hell of a tease-and-run
GPU/CPU specs guess work is beyond pointless. What they can do with these and SSDs is what we should be discussing not which console is better. Leave that for the DF videos released in a years time.
He worked for that Microsoft webpage that I can't be remember the name of and sure he prefers Xbox and pc but he was never a shill. He's brought it up a number of times because of the amount of hate he gets.
That he has specs for both consoles - PS5 and Anaconda
He was the guy who told to Sony to go to 8 GB or they are done.
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This is really subjective. In the USA you might be right. But for instance in western europe, I can honestly say PlayStation absolutely decimated Xbox. (At least in the Netherlands).I've always believed people overestimated Playstation's market leadership position, and I still believe this. So many things went wrong in the lead up to Xbox One that it was at times comical in nature. Xbox 360, even with ps3's missteps, proved that with the right strategy and combination of games to offer people out the gate, xbox can compete and compete very evenly or even beat playstation. Sony and their first party is excellent. They are far from beyond Xbox's reach for legit competition. Xbox did it with the xbox 360 on multiple fronts, jrpg offerings and the like. It was a while before PS3 really started hitting its stride and xbox 360 started to wind down.
For people saying Microsoft is already doing gamepass and xbox one s + xbox one x and sony is still winning, that is not the same thing as entering an entirely new gen with the proper focus, launching with a big gun like Halo, the offering that is gamepass with all those games plus your entire xbox one collection along with BC games available day one. Toss in xcloud and it becomes more interesting. A console that even if it should not have the performance crown, will not be as disadvantaged as xbox one was in likely price or performance. And possibly with a cheaper model available to undercut the competition day one, it can gain momentum even without the higher end model outselling ps5. These things are not as impossible as some think. Microsoft fell into a weakened or down position, but they were never completely out of true contention with playstation. Maybe they were if all you were counting was console sales. We know microsoft needed to do better on first party, but clearly we've seen they've taken serious steps to correct that, and I have faith they will strike true in those efforts.
Lastly, people always underestimate the importance of price to the larger market. They don't all think like us who want the most powerful thing we can buy.
Alright, I think it's time the mods actually verified the information Klee has because at this point this thread is derailed to hell
That's one hell of a tease-and-run
The Weird/Chimney is the point. Chinney's by design are made to take heat and pull it up (heat rises) and out. This fucker was designed from the outset to pull heat out of it in the most efficient manner possible and the way thermodynamics works is if you can release heat up and out, it is very efficient. I think it looks great...but yeah it was purely a design made because of thermals and how to efficiently push heat out of the console.I thought Microsoft nailed it with the design of the xbox one s and xbox one x. They were absolutely gorgeous as oppose to the PlayStation 4 slim and pro.
It seems people also really like the new Xbox series x design, but I really think it's the most weird and ugly looking console out there. It looks like weird cardboard chimney.
Might be because I'm really used to flat consoles tho. To each their own I guess.
Alright, I think it's time the mods actually verified the information Klee has because at this point this thread is derailed to hell
That's one hell of a tease-and-run
Or Asia.This is really subjective. In the USA you might be right. But for instance in western europe, I can honestly say PlayStation absolutely decimated Xbox. (At least in the Netherlands).
Online gaming ofcourse is localized due to ping constraints etc. so Microsoft and Sony almost going even in the USA doesn't matter even the slightest bit for western europeans. So underestimating or overestimating is subjective to your location.
Sometimes, I wonder what it is like to be a Nintendo fan. We need the world's fastest and most powerful console to be even remotely impressed, another character gets added to Smash or something and they're elated for months.
Being a fan and having a preference isn't the same as being a fanboy.I think everyone is a fanboy to some extent depending on what platforms you grew up with.
It's not going to take much for xbox to win in the US and UK. It's probably a guarantee at this point.Or Asia.
Still, I would expect Xbox Series X to at least do really well at launch, especially as it's coming out with Halo Infinite. I would reckon that there's a possibility it can beat PS5 launch sales in the US.
Matt's not actively teasing information and then not providing said information which does nothing but derail the threadWhy .
I sure matt for eg has the specs for both consoles and other people that don't mean they have to tell us anything .
He says he has spec sheets for both consoles, verification time is neededwhat info? Thread moves too fast. Is it just in the thread marks?
I only care because I was planing on building a new beefy PC next year. But if one or borth of the consoles gonna end up matching or even surpassing my current GTX1080ti+i7-7700k build, I might gonna put off the new build a year or two and just grab one of the consoles next year insteadPersonally i don't care if it's 10 or 12TF,anything over 8TF RDNA architecture is still a damn good GPU. I'm just so happy we're gonna(finally) have a powerful CPU and on top of that fast SSD. Next gen is gonna be amazing.
Matt's not entertaining this silly threadWhy .
I sure matt for eg has the specs for both consoles and other people that don't mean they have to tell us anything .
I would reckon UK is a Florida. A 50-50 chance.Being a fan and having a preference isn't the same as being a fanboy.
It's not going to take much for xbox to win in the US and UK. It's probably a guarantee at this point.
Really? Why would he do that though? It makes no sense. I thought he was not posting as much because people were being assholes and giving him shit about what he has posted? Posting out of all places here that you have specs for both and then running away without saying anything else is bad form imho and will just incite people to be worse. If he truly does have specs, he should of kept it to himself unless he was going to spill the beans.
Sometimes, I wonder what it is like to be a Nintendo fan. We need the world's fastest and most powerful console to be even remotely impressed, another character gets added to Smash or something and they're elated for months.