Alright I'll play it. Gameplay in the original had a bad rep which is why I never played it (did watch the story on YouTube though) and if that fixes it and adds some new story stuff I'm in.
New Nier: Replicant remaster info from Famitsu
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Oh, I understand where you're coming from and Square USA and Taro Yoko absolutely struck gold with Papa Nier, creating the greatest Sad Dad game of all time years before it became a trend. No matter how good this version up/remaster/remake/whatever ends up being, and my own wanting to play the other side of NieR to see how it ticks, I'm always going to miss Papa Nier. He's basically a big golden statue I can point to whenever I want to argue that Japanese games need to get away from their own tropes, because they created a character who looks like the American Breath of Fire boxart for us bloodthirsty Westerners and ended up making one of the softest and most compassionate men in all of games.
I just think Onii-chan Nier works more broadly as the main fixture of a game that parodies video games as a whole and RPGs in particular, due to the surrounding context of NieR's story, and I want to see how the greater emphasis on his relationship with Kaine and Emil works when he's their peer instead of someone explicitly out of their age range.
I am absolutely going to eat a baby if Weiss becomes the JRPG Old Man, though.
You remind me of something I've been wondering about, what's with that? Brother's vs Father's POV?
So basically NieR was released as two versions, one about a father and one about a brother. We only got the father version, and this re-release will be about the brother.
Ah, I see. As someone who never played the original, will I miss anything by only playing as the brother?
Nope. What was added to the game with the protagonist switch was, in essence, a change in context and how we as the player viewed the game's world.
Papa Nier is certainly a fantastic character, however, as you can see from all the bemoaning his loss in this thread.
I know it's broadly "canon" but also I really hope they don't. I probably shouldn't delve into the why of that since there's so many newcomers in this thread.
I'd like it if some of the lore stuff from Grimoire NIER was in, but I guess I can't really think of too many of it that's absolutely vital to understanding the game. It tells you everything you need to know and lets you infer the rest.
The camera work in the cutscenes is actually pretty good.
Just needs improved models hopefully, not sure if that is planned at all.
As for gameplay, besides rebalance and weapon / switch toggles, all they need is redo some animations and the game will be great. The original is super jank but a lot of fun.
Just needs improved models hopefully, not sure if that is planned at all.
As for gameplay, besides rebalance and weapon / switch toggles, all they need is redo some animations and the game will be great. The original is super jank but a lot of fun.
I'm iffy on the idea of improved models. NieR is not at all a pretty game but that helps sells the world's decline, and it'd be weird if everyone was a beautiful fashion model.
The characters dont really look bad in Replicant.
The worst offender is papa nier in gestalt.
Yeah, papa niers character model is awful. He actually looks pretty cool on the games cover but uh....sometimes that doesn't translate. His voice actor did a good job though and i'll miss him.
You know how the Xenoblade remake is giving the whole game a facelift more in line with Xenoblade 2 and Xenogears? I don't want that for NieR. It works there because Xenoblade was just limited by technology, but NieR absolutely sold itself on its desolate and dying world.
It absolutely does not work for xenoblade, for the record. They took away all their personalities.
It's so bland now.
That's not what would happen with Nier because like I said, the models are fine. They just need tweaks for HD and some facial features textures. Not a total do over.
First off I really, really disagree with your XC1 comment. Looks waaay better and with more personality now.
But in general I agree with you, Nier doesnt need what XC1 got. It just need a better looking world. And you can look better while keeping the desolate feeling.
Assuming that 8-4 is still doing the localization and Laura Bailey's schedule is open then I don't see why they wouldn't.
Nier with better gameplay, possibly a new ending and (hopefully) a streamlined way to reach the final endings is automatically GOTG.
The original with updated gameplay is better than Automata by default.
The original was better in almost every way except for gameplay.
The original was better in almost every way except for gameplay.
Yep. Even with my limited Japanese knowledge I could see it was a gross mistranslation saying PG are "way more involved" and there was going to be "significant changes to making it just like Automata".
I predict 90% of Automata fans are gonna hate it or shit on it when it's out for not being like Automata.
I'm not saying NieR is perfect or anything, far from it (it's flawed), but it's not like it's like it's anywhere near as other flawed games I love like Deadly Premonition or Drakengard 1. People love to exaggerate on here to the nth degree over its flaws, the combat is perfectly serviceable as is, not complete shit.
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I agree about that, I don't really get the complaints so much. I had no issues with the combat when I originally played it. The game had a particular budget, which was noticeable, especially in the maps, but it was a solid package. Tweaks are good and necessary but the complaints are exaggerated
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Comparison to the Original
These are the respective areas in the original (with youtube compression mind you)
Except for the junkyard, which is quite strongly redesigned it seems
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That's actually pretty substantial. The last two screenshots in particular really show how the lighting got touched up.These are the respective areas in the original (with youtube compression mind you)
Except for the junkyard, which is quite strongly redesigned it seems
These are the respective areas in the original (with youtube compression mind you)
Except for the junkyard, which is quite strongly redesigned it seems
I'm not seeing the junkyard in these pictures?
Which of these is the junkyard?These are the respective areas in the original (with youtube compression mind you)
Except for the junkyard, which is quite strongly redesigned it seems
Would be cool if they added him in as a character near the end of the game, when talking about the decisions that have been made.
Well hot damn, I was already on board for yet another playthrough just for the Brother Nier perspective, but this is even better! Excitement building.
I'm interested to see what the voice acting changes/additions are. I hope they leave Weiss and Kaine alone though -- those two were perfect. WEISS, YOU DUMBASS!
I'm interested to see what the voice acting changes/additions are. I hope they leave Weiss and Kaine alone though -- those two were perfect. WEISS, YOU DUMBASS!
