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New details on George Lucas' ideas for the sequel trilogy emerge
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Information on the Lucas treatment(s) that comes from George and information on it/them that comes from other people feel like two different streams that rarely, if ever, cross. Like, they don't contradict each other, but each side wants to talk about very different parts of them. This new information is a doozy. It feels like a cross between his ideas from the 80s and stuff he added in 2012. The Luke and Leia stuff sounds just like what he was talking about in the early 80s. He told Time Magazine in 1980 that:
And in an interview with Denise Worrell in 1983, he said, about the sequel trilogy:
But the seemingly large roles for Luke and Leia are also confusing because Mark Hamill has said that George told the original cast members that he would write them out if they didn't want to come back.
That would imply that their roles weren't that big or that important. His quotes here seem to say the opposite. On a related note, and tying into the mention of the story starting out "a few years after Return of the Jedi," Kathleen Kennedy has said this about the big three original stars:
The other stuff (Darths Maul and Talon, the enemies being patterned on Irag after the war) is, of course, new, i.e. not from his old outlines. While George was developing the story, Darth Talon was said to be the apprentice of someone codenamed "Uber." It kinda seems like Darth Maul might have been Uber at one point.
And in an interview with Denise Worrell in 1983, he said, about the sequel trilogy:
But the seemingly large roles for Luke and Leia are also confusing because Mark Hamill has said that George told the original cast members that he would write them out if they didn't want to come back.
That would imply that their roles weren't that big or that important. His quotes here seem to say the opposite. On a related note, and tying into the mention of the story starting out "a few years after Return of the Jedi," Kathleen Kennedy has said this about the big three original stars:
The other stuff (Darths Maul and Talon, the enemies being patterned on Irag after the war) is, of course, new, i.e. not from his old outlines. While George was developing the story, Darth Talon was said to be the apprentice of someone codenamed "Uber." It kinda seems like Darth Maul might have been Uber at one point.
lemme guess, she breathes through her skin too.This is Darth Talon btw
I don't think it says the opposite. "Writing them out" could be quick or could require a lot of work; the two are equally possible.
Sounds intriguing, but Lucas should have done these in the '90s instead of the prequel mess while Harrison, Mark, and Carrie were still spry enough to be action heroes. Then again, these might have turned out a mess too.
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Another update from TFN, quoting George on midichlorians and Whills. This is the first time George gone into such detail about what the Whills are.
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I think this sounds way more interesting than what we got. A fractured galaxy as opposed to a new Empire and a new Republic (not that we got to see much of it).
Also, what's with the Darth Talon hate, just because the original design is stupid doesn't mean they wouldn't have given here a proper costume for a film? No one is running around as the villain in a bikini for an entire film.
Also, what's with the Darth Talon hate, just because the original design is stupid doesn't mean they wouldn't have given here a proper costume for a film? No one is running around as the villain in a bikini for an entire film.
Overall it sounds like what the post-jedi era kind of already is in canon
leia leading the charge in rebuilding the republic, luke rebuilding the jedi, and splinters of the empire reforming
except without maul, who now did those sorts of things in the pre-anh era instead of the post-rotj era
(kinda like what happened with thrawn)
i do hope they expand on that crimson dawn time period in the future, more maul
Interesting. So the Whills use us as vehicles and the midichlorians as fuel. Sith are a perversion because they hoard the Force for themselves rather than allowing the Whills to consume it.
