Why is it that United States only observes but never intervenes in situations like this? Not enough oil in Myanmar?
Doesn't the world already hate the US for always interfering with international politics beyond itself? Always complaining that we police the world?Why is it that United States only observes but never intervenes in situations like this? Not enough oil in Myanmar?
True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.Doesn't the world already hate the US for always interfering with international politics beyond itself? Always complaining that we police the world?
I mean, under her their was genocide and she tried to justify it, so nothing changes with or without her. She's a disgraced piece of shit, Myanmar is a hell hole no matter whoa currently in charge.I wonder how Aung San Suu Kyi losing her position will effect the Rohingya. Even though she doesn't support them I feel like she would still be better than military rule
I don't think anyone, even the most hawkish neocon, would argue that attacking the Burmese military would lead to good outcomes here. Do you, really?True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
Aung San Suu Kyi is a bigoted, genocidal piece of trash and gotta say, it's embarrassing that so much of western news media is acting like it's a shame she's been imprisoned again. Yes, military coups are bad and so on, but few deserve a jail cell more than Suu Kyi.
True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
Sadly yeah, Im just hoping that the genocide wont be escalated.I mean, under her their was genocide and she tried to justify it, so nothing changes with or without her. She's a disgraced piece of shit, Myanmar is a hell hole no matter whoa currently in charge.
Even if the US actually cared the people of Myanmar and wanted to do something good for once. Invading a country on the border of China in modern times in the name of democracy, would only make things worse for everyone.True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
Why is it that United States only observes but never intervenes in situations like this? Not enough oil in Myanmar?
And why are we still pretending that it's just the military that's responsible for the Rohingya genocide? Majority of people in Myanmar support that genocide. Are we going to start seeing them as evil in history books long after the Rohingya are all gone.
It probably depends on the nature of the interference.Myanmar has borders with China and close to Tibet. The CCP will raise hell if America tries to intervene in Myanmar.
True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
It probably depends on the nature of the interference.
Why would the CCP back a military coup in Myanmar?
So why would China assume that the military coup will protect their investments in Myanmar?China is currently the 2nd biggest foreign investor in Myanmar, right after Singapore.
As bad as it is, the Junta will keep their investment safe while a war due to US intervention will not
So why would China assume that the military coup will protect their investments in Myanmar?
Seems like the opposite would be true.
And who said anything about America? This has nothing to do with them.
Myanmar has borders with China and close to Tibet. The CCP will raise hell if America tries to intervene in Myanmar.
So why would China assume that the military coup will protect their investments in Myanmar?
Seems like the opposite would be true.
Navalny may be a terrible person but he's triggered a more pronounced movement against Putin's rule than before. Ideally, he doesn't stay as the leader of the protests but they go on and take their own form.People in the west have a tendency to project their own political goals and ideas on to others while not having a clue about the political and social dynamics on the ground. That's why the Afghan and Iraq Wars went so miserably and why Suu Kyi was held up as a paragon of virtue. The only things the west and Suu Kyi had in common was some nebulous idea of shared support for electoral democracy. Any room for nuance falls to the way side.
You're seeing the same thing with Navalny in Russia right now. A political darling in parts of the west who would quickly denounce him if they knew he was a far-right Russian nationalist who hates Muslims almost as much as Suu Kyi.
Nobody went to war with Nazi Germany for anything as righteous as saving the Jews or opposing Facism so it wasn't anything like a police action. The underlying question of if we have the power should we use it is still a valid question and we've had a few middling successes on that front in the past century but I'm not in the know enough to even pretend to know if it had a chance in hell of succeeding here or not.True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
Maybe too early to say but is there any creedence to the fraud claims or is that really just the blueprint for every coup
True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
The rest of the world literally doesn't exist here. Our news is so damn terrible.Sometimes is super frustrating how US centric this forum is. There is a whole world outside it's borders and topics like this of major significance get like 5 comments
Nazi Germany had started a world war and had open intentions to literally taking over Europe and who knows what else after that. There was already evidence they were committing huge massacres against Jews (even if the true extent wasn't fully known before the war) and on top of it all they were working on the atom bomb. Joining WW2 wasn't just morally justified, there were also good economic and strategic reasons for the US to join in.True but sometimes intervention is better than not doing anything. Was going to war with Nazi Germany policing the world? I am not saying we should go to war with Myanmar. But if we have the power, why not use it for some good for a change.
So why would China assume that the military coup will protect their investments in Myanmar?
Seems like the opposite would be true.
And who said anything about America? This has nothing to do with them.
The military has been threatening a coup since November. China was in Myanmar 3 weeks ago meeting with the military. I don't think it is far fetched they would have received the blessing from China before they took over the country.
Sometimes is super frustrating how US centric this forum is. There is a whole world outside it's borders and topics like this of major significance get like 5 comments
Fuck her. She calling for protests lol. When the Muslims were being massacred San Suu Kyi had no problem with it but once again she's all about getting hers.
DamnGet fucked, Aung San Suu Kyi. You reap what you sow you genocide defending shitbag.
Get fucked, Aung San Suu Kyi. You reap what you sow you genocide defending shitbag.
Her crime would be defending the military's actions publicly, and it's easy to see why she did it - because speaking out against it wouldn't have stopped anything and likely caused the immediate overthrow of her government. The military wrote the constitution she served under. It gave their political party guaranteed seats in the parliament, a veto on legislation, and their informal power forced her to accept military representatives in her administration. The military even legally had the right to take back full control if they deemed it necessary - which is what they just did.Is there a way for her and her ilk to stand trial for their genocidal crimes against the Rohingya without plunging Myanmar into a military strong-arm government again?
Her crime would be defending the military's actions publicly, and it's easy to see why she did it - because speaking out against it wouldn't have stopped anything and likely caused the immediate overthrow of her government. The military wrote the constitution she served under. It gave their political party guaranteed seats in the parliament, a veto on legislation, and their informal power forced her to accept military representatives in her administration. The military even legally had the right to take back full control if they deemed it necessary - which is what they just did.
And no, there isn't any alternative to her and her party when it comes opposition to the military in Myanmar. She remains immensely popular among the majority population. It's presumably that that did her in - the military felt threatened and humiliated by how their party got demolished in the elections last year, and probably want to ensure that future elections, should they happen, turn out more to their liking.
That would more or less have demolished any progress made towards democratization of the country. And lets be clear - the persecution of the Rohingya is not some lone, isolated event in Myanmar's history. The country has over a 100 minority groups and ethnic tensions in part led to the military seizing power in the 60s, and there has been conflicts with them ever since. The military's attacks on the Karen people for example, seems just as horrible as what was done to the Rohingya.It may well not of stopped anything but this a women who champions human rights. A nobel peace award winner. It was inexcusable for her to downplay the massacres and to try and turn it into some conspiracy where the world was lying and no massacres or mass rapes were happening.
...of course this won't help the Rohingya Muslims. It will actually get worse i imagine, it was the same military that committed the genocide that just did a coup.I don't think this will help the Rohingya sadly. They are forgotten about and the oppressors will continue doing what they are doing. I really hope I am wrong but I just don't see it happening.
As for Aung San Suu Kyi, she fully deserves this treatment. She is a piece of shit. Who ever decided to give her a peace prize should be ashamed. She has blood on her hands and should be seen that way.
Fuck her and fuck her supporters and other people like her.
That would more or less have demolished any progress made towards democratization of the country. And lets be clear - the persecution of the Rohingya is not some lone, isolated event in Myanmar's history. The country has over a 100 minority groups and ethnic tensions in part led to the military seizing power in the 60s, and there has been conflicts with them ever since. The military's attacks on the Karen people for example, seems just as horrible as what was done to the Rohingya.
Even if it was ugly and painful, the slow inching towards a more open and democratic society would have been the only way to actually put a stop to this. Leaving the military in power more or less ensures that it goes on.
Oh I didn't mean to imply she is the reason this is happening. The military like you say were the ones commiting the crimes and she was supporting them and so were many civilians....why would this help the Rohingya Muslims? It would actually get worse i imagine, it was the same military that committed the genocide that just did a coup.
In a move surprising absolutely nobody, it seems those behind the coup are now charging Aung San Suu Kyi with treason.