Microsoft updates Community Standards for Xbox, provides examples of "acceptable trash talk"
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Yea, if someone seriously can't take profanity, like shit or fuck, over Xbox live they need to toughen up.
Yeah not sure if you're a well known troll or something so I'm just going to toughen up and put you on mute myself.
Feel free that's what the mute button is there for, my point earlier.
To be fair, they finally accept gamers can be huge assholes, they are just trying to lower the damage in the playing field hoping to create a somewhat healthier environment, i feel pity for those employees there is only so much they can do with human beings
Honestly, if somebody kept spamming those "potato aim" or "get better" shit I'd still hit the report button, regardless of what Microsoft decides to do about it ultimately. Fuck toxic people in online gaming and fuck trashtalk, when I play Rocket League (for example) if I'm angry I just don't type anything, normally though I even congratulate the opponent for a good goal or a nice save. The idea of "acceptable trash talk" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
You're welcome to move away from Xbox Live tho if their decision doesn't suit you.
Did some of you grow up in a bubble, void of competition or banter? Such milquetoast personalities. It's ironic when people pull the adult card in argument of trash talk yet fail to acknowledge that it's pretty childish to get riled up at the prospect of someone saying "that sucked" or "get destroyed." Throwing the term "toxicity" around liberally, especially in this harmless context, is both silly and waters down the validity of its application as well. Just because you don't like or agree with something doesn't automatically make that thing toxic. It's also hyperbolic to frame those forms of trash talk deemed acceptable as abuse. Again, you're only making light of actual abuse in the hyperbolic use of this word to describe "cheap win." I think that it'd do people some good to be a little less fickle. 🤷♂️
I have to commend Microsoft for going to the length of outlining what is and isn't acceptable under their terms of service. How anyone can criticize a company being transparent opposed to enforcing a vague set of rules at their whim is beyond me. More platforms should follow suit. I also think that putting these mild forms of trash talk front and center will help to combat actually unacceptable trash talk since it sets an example of where the line is. Ultimately, I'd much rather someone told me I have potato aim instead of calling me a racial slur.
I have to commend Microsoft for going to the length of outlining what is and isn't acceptable under their terms of service. How anyone can criticize a company being transparent opposed to enforcing a vague set of rules at their whim is beyond me. More platforms should follow suit. I also think that putting these mild forms of trash talk front and center will help to combat actually unacceptable trash talk since it sets an example of where the line is. Ultimately, I'd much rather someone told me I have potato aim instead of calling me a racial slur.
I don't mind some trash talk as long as it's kept clean and isn't abusive. It's when you get people screaming down the microphone with all kinds of garbage and intentional team killing that piss me off more than anything.
I agree that terms like toxic etc are over used and don't apply here.
I also commend ms for being transparent.
I also think they're wrong, and no trash talk should be acceptable....there's literally no need for it.
IMHO their naming for the categories should change.
"Acceptable" should be "please don't say stuff like this"
"Not acceptable" should be "you can get banned for this"
I just don't think there's any need for any of those comments (between random people on the internet).
Maybe it's a cultural thing but bragging or making comments about the loser being bad just makes people look like a bit of a knob.
Trash talk has no place amid a civilised gaming community.
...it's just a shame that "civilised gaming community" is an oxymoron in this anonymous internet age.
...it's just a shame that "civilised gaming community" is an oxymoron in this anonymous internet age.
Came here for the cringe and was not disappointed. I like the term potato aim though. I think I am going to use that one.
The irony in this is incredible, how about you sort your house out first before trying to sort other peoples'.
In relation to the post, I haven't had trash talk since COD4 days due to private chat, so its becoming very irrelevant if you play with friends. (Other than games that have text, like the toxic Rocket League and Moba games)
In relation to the post, I haven't had trash talk since COD4 days due to private chat, so its becoming very irrelevant if you play with friends. (Other than games that have text, like the toxic Rocket League and Moba games)
You know theres an issue with your online community when you have to issue trash talk guidelines...
Before you start, yes I know it's not just a xbox live issue.
Seriously though, WTF?
Before you start, yes I know it's not just a xbox live issue.
Seriously though, WTF?
"Heeey! Just so you know, you're not very good at things although you may think otherwise!"
That'll teach em
That'll teach em
Regulating is not encouraging. People are going to do it anyway.
A lot of people here is very disconnected with the gaming culture.
I think there is a lot of old people who are not in the streaming thing here (I am).
Sir may I suggest, if you would accept my advice, that you improve your skills in order to obtain a higher number of frags compared to your number of deaths, before returning here. As such we will be able to have a fairer competition.
I'm not a man but I have played sports and I'm pretty sure if I told an opponent on the tennis court to "Get destroyed. Can't believe you thought you were on my level." I'd be asked to leave by staff for breaking the house rules.
Maybe it's different in your country but I would think respect is taught as an important part of competing to most kids whether it's in sports or competitive games like chess. I don't think gaming should be any different.
I disagree with censoring any form of trash talk but respect your opinion. I wouldn't contest renaming their categories, though. Also, from my perspective, trash talk isn't just about putting people down. If your teammate misses an easy kill, you can humorously say, "hey, what's with that potato aim" to make light of an embarrassing moment. If the other team is BMing you during the match like shooting your corpse or teabagging you, hitting them with the "ggez" is a tepid way to mess with them. If someone loses a key round on the other team, throwing out a "you really gotta win those" is just a way to get into their head. Trash talk is inherent to competition, but it doesn't mean you have to be telling people to kill themselves or that you'll engage in sexual intercourse with their mothers. Frankly, the term "trash talk" is a bit too dramatic to be used in describing these harmless examples of banter.
Tennis has a higher standard of decorum than most sports. But I've experienced plenty of trash talk on the court too.
I don't like it. But you can't really force people to be nice.