It's... well, it's baffling, but don't expect it to change until after more AAA shooters come to support gyro.lol this thread is weird. Didn't think the option of having gyro would rustle so many jimmies.
I suppose all those waggling image macros of yesteryear did a number on the opinion of gyro or IR pointing gameplay, even if many many games pull it off very well blol this thread is weird. Didn't think the option of having gyro would rustle so many jimmies.
But people would like to have improved control from the comfort of their couch without the need of extra peripherals. How does gyro suck?I don't get gyro, it sucks in my opinion. If it doesn't increase the cost of the controller than sure but it's like bottom tier feature for me and I'm sure most people. Use a mouse and keyboard if you want precision because I think the XSX will support it.
And I'm here on PC with access to a keyboard and mouse comfortably yet I still have a controller in my lap right now as I type this (just finished playing a game with it and gyro+touch pad).But people would like to have improved control from the comfort of their couch without the need of extra peripherals. How does gyro suck?
Well, see, we're lucky enough to have something as ridiculous as the Steam Controller. I'll play a single player game with that over m/kb at my desk as well. Being able to configure everything to my liking is such a blessing. Also, the touchpad makes the analog stick look and feel ancient.And I'm here on PC with access to a keyboard and mouse comfortably yet I still have a controller in my lap right now as I type this (just finished playing a game with it and gyro+touch pad).
Controller is just darn comfortable, no playing twister with the wasd + using abilities keys and such, making sure I hit 6 [backspace] 4... 5 (5 is what I was trying to hit) instead of (looks down) 4 etc. With controller everything is withing a comfortable reach. Paddles (steam controller) and smooth motion and aim, gaming heaven.
lol this thread is weird. Didn't think the option of having gyro would rustle so many jimmies.
And that's my point. For like...most people, they don't feel like that and it controls fine for them.
I feel sorry for people who feel otherwise cause it must suck.
I don't get gyro, it sucks in my opinion. If it doesn't increase the cost of the controller than sure but it's like bottom tier feature for me and I'm sure most people. Use a mouse and keyboard if you want precision because I think the XSX will support it.
Thanks i will. Someone gotta take a stand for the losers. Because how dare someone have a different opinion. People who thinks sticks should be standard. The horror...
So really it's just PC right now? That's a shame.
Other than Splatoon anything on the Switch?
Implementation wise, sure. In practice was there any difference?That wasn't gyro though, that was an infrared light/sensor that the Kinect could pickup. That's a very different thing.
Yeah they work very different from each other even in practice. The moment the sensor loses sight of the controller, the tracking is completely gone and the system has no way to determine what's happening and just stops entirely doing so (very noticeable with the Wii when you stop pointing at the bar). And it only tracks movement, though the Wii (and I assume also Kinect) used multiple lights at different distance to also register distance and tilt (though the Wii also had the built in gyro to register the later). Gyro doesn't have this problem and it can register any movement, tilt and what not, however the problem is that it has no specific point to track, so after some time it starts to drift so it needs to be able to be reset. Splatoon solves this by resetting the aiming to the base line and you can easily adjust, but it takes a bit to get used to.Implementation wise, sure. In practice was there any difference?
I remember even seeing videos of people hooking up the Kinect to the pc and having full motion tracking for the controls. If I recall they even had 2 leds in different frequencies so they would know the orientation as well
Sticks would still be standard if a gyro is included... it would co-exist with the sticks.
You arent really standing up for anyone. You're just standing in the way of those who want superior options.
It would be like you opposing the second analog stick on OG xbox and PS2 controllers in support of those who like Goldeneye's FPS controls.
It's definitely not the same as going from one to two sticks. You are using your thumbs when you play with one or two sticks. It's a completely different way to play games with gyro. You skills doesn't translate much between the two ways to play.
I have no problem with options, but i have a problem with playing against gyro users. You say it's superior, so is mouse and keyboard and i don't want to play against mouse and keyboard either when i'm using a controller.
I find it funny that when we had the whole mouse and keyboard on console thread everyone agreed that it was unfair and we needed a toggle because it's superior to playing with a controller.
it's the same thing with gyro, yall say it's superior to sticks, so if it becomes standard you are at a disadvantage playing with sticks. I don't really see why it's so outlandish to want to play on an even playing field, no one bats an eye when people want a toggle for mouse and keyboard.
Is a lack of hardware feature parity preventing serious uptake of gryo assisted game control due to most games being standard accross ecosystems? It needs not to be.
If they can keep the price from going up too much, sure. €70 for the Switch Pro controller, which doesn't even have analog triggers or an audio-out is a bit too rich for my taste.
MS, please DONT include any unnecessary crap in your controllers!
Oh does it? Hmmm. May have to consider that for PC usage then. Seems like compatibility is pretty good now through Steam, and I desperately need a controller with a reliable D-pad.
MS, please DONT include any unnecessary crap in your controllers!
I mean
Rumble triggers ARE unnecessary
As it is the light on the Xbox logo
And the jewel style buttons
And the microswitched D-Pad
I can go on if you want...
But they still are there and add to the experience, in some cases improving it (Rumble triggers are great for racing games)
Gyro is cheap, adds inmensely to the experience and it's literally the next step for controller inputs. Microsoft is the only one who doesn't implement it.
So this is not Microsoft not including "unnecessary crap", this is Microsoft being more Nintendo than Nintendo in their stubborness to adopt a standarised technology for god knows what reason, and hindergin the experience with their stupidity.
Never refuse more options.
Options are always good that's why I would like to have the option to buy a controller without all those, for me, uneccessary features.
Since you brought up Racing Games are good with rumble I like to add that people who really care about immersion, do use steering wheels and have a proper set up anyway.
I suppose all those waggling image macros of yesteryear did a number on the opinion of gyro or IR pointing gameplay, even if many many games pull it off very well b
You mean people who really care about inmersion and have money to spend right? Because a racing setup with steering wheel and stuff is not exactly cheap
Also the controller including gyro doesnt force you to use it, every single game in existence allows you to disable it. Releasing controllers both with and without gyro is a dumb idea.
That's not an option but bad marketing
Here, have two controllers that are identical except for one internal, 0.07 priced component
It's dumb, like your poor gotcha attempt
Never said or implied what you wrote but have fun and go on with your narrative. :D
Options are always good that's why I would like to have the option to buy a controller without all those, for me, uneccessary features.
Oh does it? Hmmm. May have to consider that for PC usage then. Seems like compatibility is pretty good now through Steam, and I desperately need a controller with a reliable D-pad.
MS, please DONT include any unnecessary crap in your controllers!
The actual gyroscope sensor costs literal pennies on the production side of things, it won't impact the price of the controller. And if you don't want gyro aiming, just turn it off. More options are never a bad thing (this part is for the latter 2 quotes, not the first one).
The actual gyroscope sensor costs literal pennies on the production side of things, it won't impact the price of the controller. And if you don't want gyro aiming, just turn it off. More options are never a bad thing (this part is for the latter 2 quotes, not the first one).
With this line of thinking we would still be using Atari controllers. Or games would still control like GoldenEye, or Doom.The Playstation controller has it and is 10 Euros more than Xbox controller where I live. Original prices compared obviously.
I always like to have a controller that has only the buttons and sticks we are used to that's it. Should easily available for like 25 Euros. I take battery life over everything as I disbale what I can anyway and I don't want to pay for features I don't use.
Then that may have more to do with the light bar, the touch pad, or (more likely) Sony themselves. At least in NA, the prices are the same. And the sensor itself is dirt cheap to commercially purchase & even cheaper on the production side. If anything is gonna bring up the price, it's the rumble triggers, not a gyro sensor that has become standard in most phones & controllers.The Playstation controller has it and is 10 Euros more than Xbox controller where I live. Original prices compared obviously.
I always like to have a controller that has only the buttons and sticks we are used to that's it. Should easily available for like 25 Euros. I take battery life over everything as I disbale what I can anyway and I don't want to pay for features I don't use.
MS, please DONT include any unnecessary crap in your controllers!
The Playstation controller has it and is 10 Euros more than Xbox controller where I live. Original prices compared obviously.
I always like to have a controller that has only the buttons and sticks we are used to that's it. Should easily available for like 25 Euros. I take battery life over everything as I disbale what I can anyway and I don't want to pay for features I don't use.