MGSV is the best controlling third-person shooter ever made. Nothing comes close.
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yeah it was good for the time. Two gens later, MGS has absolutely caught up, and passed it. The Van damme wall thing was cool but that stuff was extremely situational, but other things like hanging from piping and gadgetry was extremely good. Again, MGSV gives you just as much variety now, but with even better controls today.
I will say SC Blacklist has some really cool cqc stuff going on that can sort of rival what MGSV does in that specific sense.
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Yup, this is what I love about it. It gives the player so much control that everything is on you at the end of the day. No blaming the game.
I've sunk 50 hours into it, the majority of which was doing side mission after side mission because the core loop of stealthily taking over bases is so incredibly solid.
This weekend, I fell into a deep The Division well, but I still inadvertently leave cover, switch to the wrong weapon, etc. There's a level of precision that MGSV has that is very satisfying, but hard to describe.
This weekend, I fell into a deep The Division well, but I still inadvertently leave cover, switch to the wrong weapon, etc. There's a level of precision that MGSV has that is very satisfying, but hard to describe.
Someone said it earlier, but I think it's the extensive use of canned animations that hurts it for me. They are quick and don't deviate from what you'd expect, but it also makes the game feel less versatile than many of its peers.
I would argue Watch Dogs is really close; Aiden's movement is more rudimentary compared to what Venom Snake can do, but it had some of the most responsive, fluid controls I've ever used in any third person title, and it's all tied together with an exceptional cover system and highly exceptional combat. The ease at which you can move over and around obstacles is what really made it special.
i've only played about 3 hours of it but this is so true. i was literally doing what i intended to do just within the first hour of playing around. i don't have to go through hoops and justify the controls by saying it is "weight". the controls scheme isn't the friendliest but they made the controls so snappy that you don't get confused by it. with other games, i'd still get confused and it takes time to get used to the controls. with mgsv even with the complex control scheme and lots of context-sensitive actions, it is very easy to be good at them.
Im not sure how anybody can say Gears is clunky, it has the best/cover system....snapping into cover and transitioning from cover to cover.
Running, diving/rolling and weapon swapping are all on point.
It has a high skill ceiling also.
Running, diving/rolling and weapon swapping are all on point.
It has a high skill ceiling also.
Disagree,
I find stuff like Socom and Wildlands to control far better and just be more enjoyable to do the basics overall
I find stuff like Socom and Wildlands to control far better and just be more enjoyable to do the basics overall
Ubisoft's shooters look pretty and feel flimsy outside of Siege. Ghost Recon in particular felt cheap after MGSV.
Agreed.
And, people worry about Death Stranding's gameplay. Please...
Surprised the lack of uncharted 4 posts considering gears has been brought up numerous times.
U4 felt great to play.
U4 felt great to play.
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Definitely! Gears feels really nice to control in its own right and you can do some crazy stuff once you get a deep understanding of the controls as you say.
The shooting ruined it all for me, and I just couldn't enjoy this game enough to keep playing.
Personally the best controlling TPS is Uncharted 4. Everything is quick and fluid, parkouring around the environments is satisfying, using the rope swing for takedowns is some Indiana Jones type shit and most importantly the shooting/weapon feedback is ace.
Personally the best controlling TPS is Uncharted 4. Everything is quick and fluid, parkouring around the environments is satisfying, using the rope swing for takedowns is some Indiana Jones type shit and most importantly the shooting/weapon feedback is ace.
Totally. One of the reasons why it's up there for me as a contender for game of the generation.
I agree. Would also like to add how good the audio feedback is. Every step, every dive, even down to the clothes and weapons you're carrying are heard as you move around.
Wouldn't have used Max Payne 3 as a counterexample though. That game controls just the way it should for what it's doing.
Wouldn't have used Max Payne 3 as a counterexample though. That game controls just the way it should for what it's doing.
Spastic play that abuses controls isn't particularly convincing. Last game I played like this was EDF in terms of animations.
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To be honest, in the case of Max Payne 3, even though I played it on PC, it has some serious dead zone and input lag issues on consoles. What I was trying to get at is that MGSV controls really well on both consoles and PC.
Isn't this the remake of the original Gears of War too? Which is to say it doesn't have wall-cancelling.
Gears of War 4 is secretly the best controlling TPS this gen for my money. The control you have at any one moment is fantastic.
MGSV is immediately gratifying, but mastering the cover system in Gears of War, particularly every instalment after the original, is so satisfying.
If you think that clip looks spastic and stupid, you should look at this!
My biggest issue is that the cover system is trash.
One thing I like is despite all the controls and things you do it's not confusing or dumb to play with a controller, unlike something like red dead 2 where there are so many things there is to much button overlap and it's sooo inconsistent.
One thing I like is despite all the controls and things you do it's not confusing or dumb to play with a controller, unlike something like red dead 2 where there are so many things there is to much button overlap and it's sooo inconsistent.
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Perfect animation blending versus complete lack of animations. You haven't really made ur point.
Learning to skip off cover to cover isn't as impressive as you're making it seem, but it does look ugly.
MGS V's responsiveness is unrivaled, no doubt.
When it comes to gunplay though, I'd still put Uncharted 4 (for its fluidity and the fact that its gunplay translates very well between multiplayer and single player) and Max Payne 3 ( which felt like every part of its gunplay and mechanics related to it were combed through a fine-toothed comb.) well ahead of it.
Vanquish is just a dope action game with ranged weapons and a sick movement option. It's amazing at that but the gunplay is not its focus.
When it comes to gunplay though, I'd still put Uncharted 4 (for its fluidity and the fact that its gunplay translates very well between multiplayer and single player) and Max Payne 3 ( which felt like every part of its gunplay and mechanics related to it were combed through a fine-toothed comb.) well ahead of it.
Vanquish is just a dope action game with ranged weapons and a sick movement option. It's amazing at that but the gunplay is not its focus.
yeah, controls like a dream. the actual shooting, eh
not that that's a mark against it as it isn't really a shooter. but labeling it as best TPS across the board is a little shaky
I would be ecstatic if every third person shooter made from now on felt exactly the same to control as MGSV.
It's very rare that you get a game that feels so responsive while having animations that look good too.
As good as it is though even the devs realized that first person aiming was the way to go.
It's very rare that you get a game that feels so responsive while having animations that look good too.
As good as it is though even the devs realized that first person aiming was the way to go.
I think one place the snappiness of the controls falls apart is Metal Gear Online, where everyone can do what you do in single player. It results in some really spastic combat.
True that. I'd love to see a current gen (or even next gen) port that sorted all of that out and gave us a solid 60fps.
True that. I'd love to see a current gen (or even next gen) port that sorted all of that out and gave us a solid 60fps.
The moment something doesn't follow the traditional marketing blowout of an AAA game, people just turn off their brains. It is what it is.
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The melee in MGO falls apart in aesthetics. You can toss people into polls and they'll wallsplat comically, or ground sweeps and elevation can do some wonky shit. It remains effective and versatile, though.
No abuse of controls here, its highly skilled play. Obviously most people can't play it like this.