Atheerios

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Pokémon seems to be performing good on comg. Does anybody have the comg score for Smash Ultimate from the week it released?
 

JC317

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Also, December 27th, new Yo-kai Watch anime series based on latest movie will debut.


I'm not sure if I'm understanding the article correctly. Is this an actual new Yokai Watch anime series that replaces the current Yokai Watch reboot anime, or is it a one-off special just for the holidays?

Either way, Level 5 really should just stick to a formula. Despite performing worse than the OG series, Shadowside did get middling ratings that are actually better than the current reboot. Changing gears so frequently is just going to confuse its audience...
 

Saicho

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As always, this thread likes its doom and gloom, just yesterday some peeps were saying December looks really poor line-up-wise. Well, of course, that was because Capcom were yet to announce they're coming to save the day with some super hot, instant-best-selling titles.

On December 13th, they'll release Best Price re-release of the following games:

- Resident Evil 2 (PS4), 3990 Yen + taxes
- Devil May Cry 5 (PS4), 3990 Yen + taxes
- Resident Evil Revelations Collection (NSW), 3990 Yen + taxes. Of course, still with mandatory download for Revelations 2.


In light of this, safe to expect +160% YoY for December.

Or not.

This is how Capcom will hit their 19-20 software shipment target.
 

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Chris1964

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If Switch is at 80-90k tomorrow it won't have problem to match last December's sales.
 

Charamiwa

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It does feel like Nintendo is finally all out in Korea, great localizations day and date, lot of advertising... The fact that it's selling faster than the PS4 is interesting and does make you wonder how the console would do in other territories where Playstation reigns alone, like the Middle east or South Africa. Knowing Nintendo, we'll probably never now.
 

Jon Carter

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I guess the rising development costs and Nintendo's falling hardware numbers at the time made it an easy decision to wait and see.
Switch has blown past all expections for it, except maybe that one Kimishima quote where they hoped it would do "Wii-like numbers". Things were dire before the Switch launch

The 3DS already was the third most successful console of all time before the Switch launched. I can understand Japanese third parties having some reservations due to the Wii U, fading 3DS sales in Japan and shaky potential overseas, but when the successor to such a massive domestic success is about to launch, you'd think you'd have a finger on the port trigger ready to pull at the first sign of success. I genuinely don't understand how slow Japanese third parties have been/are being with the Switch. Success wasn't guaranteed but it was likely.
 

MysticGon

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The 3DS already was the third most successful console of all time before the Switch launched. I can understand Japanese third parties having some reservations due to the Wii U, fading 3DS sales in Japan and shaky potential overseas, but when the successor to such a massive domestic success is about to launch, you'd think you'd have a finger on the port trigger ready to pull at the first sign of success. I genuinely don't understand how slow Japanese third parties have been/are being with the Switch. Success wasn't guaranteed but it was likely.

When it comes to HD development I would imagine global sales would be considered. The Switch wasn't just a 3DS successor. It was also the Wii U's. Which one it would take after wasn't clear to anyone. It was/is priced like a home console.
 

Garlic

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The 3DS already was the third most successful console of all time before the Switch launched. I can understand Japanese third parties having some reservations due to the Wii U, fading 3DS sales in Japan and shaky potential overseas, but when the successor to such a massive domestic success is about to launch, you'd think you'd have a finger on the port trigger ready to pull at the first sign of success. I genuinely don't understand how slow Japanese third parties have been/are being with the Switch. Success wasn't guaranteed but it was likely.

3DS was a massive decline from DS everywhere but Japan and the Vita fucking bit it, the prevailing idea was that the handheld market was not long for the world in the smartphone era and that the market would contract still further. I didn't agree with that then and the passage of time has made it look very foolish, but you could definitely see the logic of the decison from that point of view.
 
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Pokemon shipments in Japan (1st generation numbers aren't reliable)

[GMB] Pokemon Red |GameBoy/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1996.02.27} (¥3.900) - 4.180.000
[GMB] Pokemon Green |GameBoy/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1996.02.27} (¥3.900) - 4.040.000
[GMB] Pokemon Blue |GameBoy/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1996.10.15} (¥3.000) - 2.010.000
[GMB] Pokemon Yellow <RPG> (Nintendo) {1998.09.12} (¥3.000) - 3.160.000

[GMB] Pokemon Gold |GameBoy/GameBoy Color/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} (¥3.800) - 3.530.000
[GMB] Pokemon Silver |GameBoy/GameBoy Color/Super GameBoy| <RPG> (Nintendo) {1999.11.21} (¥3.800) - 3.640.000

[GBA] Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2002.11.21} (¥4.571) - 5.400.000

[NDS] Pokemon Diamond / Pearl <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2006.09.28} (¥4.571) - 5.850.000

[NDS] Pokemon Black / White <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.571) - 5.540.000

[3DS] Pokemon X / Y <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571) - 4.560.000

[3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 3.940.000
 
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Sword / Shield is a big bet for Nintendo stopping Pokemon decline in Japan. Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon showed big recovery coming from Sun / Moon underwhelming sales.
 

Lelouch0612

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Sword / Shield is a big bet for Nintendo stopping Pokemon decline in Japan. Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon showed big recovery coming from Sun / Moon underwhelming sales.
If there are no other Pokemon games in 2020, then 4m+ should be manageable. Let's Go is already above 2m in shipments.

Pokemon has been pivotal to Switch's success both in 2018 and 2019. It bought time to EPD to developp their big games. They deserve a break in 2020.
 
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Signs point to a big opening for Sword / Shield, unlike Let's Go there's a lot of hype surrounding it. Since it's Nintendo's major title for holidays a potential underperformance will have impact at hardware. Switch sales at weeks before and at Pokemon launch will give a very good idea of how high it can go in December.
 

Lelouch0612

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Signs point to a big opening for Sword / Shield, unlike Let's Go there's a lot of hype surrounding it. Since it's Nintendo's major title for holidays a potential underperformance will have impact at hardware. Switch sales at weeks before and at Pokemon launch will give a very good idea of how high it can go in December.
Yep.

Benji noted that every single Switch SKU (Lite and OG) were up WoW last week in the US, drove by Pokemon's upcoming launch. If we take the impact of the Pokemon Switch Lite as +45k last week that's still 74k for the other models.

The Pokemon Switch Lite will be down WoW for sure but even then, 80-85k should be the final range if the rest of the SKUs are flat.

Now if they increased WoW, then things will be interesting we'll see !
 

Raguy

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If there are no other Pokemon games in 2020, then 4m+ should be manageable. Let's Go is already above 2m in shipments.

Pokemon has been pivotal to Switch's success both in 2018 and 2019. It bought time to EPD to developp their big games. They deserve a break in 2020.
In 2020, detective pikachu can make an appearance.
 

apotema

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Oct 28, 2017
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Do we have an update from the post that gives us the released switch games each month and each season?

Who used to make it?

Example:

Spring (12 games)

March (4 games)
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3.
4.

April (7 games)
 

zroid

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everyone in this thread if pokemon overperforms at retail:

"wow just imagine how much it sold including vouchers!"


everyone in this thread if pokemon underperforms at retail:

"well we don't know how much it really sold because of vouchers"
 

Vinnk

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everyone in this thread if pokemon overperforms at retail:

"wow just imagine how much it sold including vouchers!"


everyone in this thread if pokemon underperforms at retail:

"well we don't know how much it really sold because of vouchers"

More likely Pokemon will do OK but not amazing numbers at retail FW and the streets will run red with blood until we get a financial report to confirm things either way. Until them it will be the perfect middle ground for anyone with an agenda to run untethered. I don't even know if I want to be in this thread the next few weeks.
 
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Ultra Sun / Ultra Moon cut Sun / Moon legs and definitely absorbed some of its sales. That's why it had a good performance.
By the time US/UM was announced sales of S/M had dropped to already very low levels in Japan and west. One more year gap wouldn't make a huge difference, at best case 1m worldwide.
 

Celine

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I feel that Nintendo was expecting a bit more from Kid Icarus though. Maybe a million in Japan too, as it was pushed a lot in 2012.
KIU is a good game but with limited appeal due to its nature.
There was absolutely no way it could sell 1 million units in Japan, its game structure appealed to a niche.
 

hiska-kun

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Signs point to a big opening for Sword / Shield, unlike Let's Go there's a lot of hype surrounding it. Since it's Nintendo's major title for holidays a potential underperformance will have impact at hardware. Switch sales at weeks before and at Pokemon launch will give a very good idea of how high it can go in December.

Can you post the Pokemon pre-order data from Media Create from past games?
 

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Kerotan

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Hopefully a big opening for Death Stranding. I'm about 7 hours in and I'm blown away so far. A truly unique title.
 

NekoNeko

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Oct 26, 2017
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is there a legit business reason for not putting Person 5 on the switch? not port begging as i don't want to play it but that seems like a no brainer and gets you easy sales.