While fine, this seems kind of unnecessary. I don't think we've ever had folks post incorrect data on purpose, and this thread is pretty good about pointing out the occasional mistake.
I bet he decided to browse Era exactly that day and cried himself to sleep.
Alright if we're allowed to adjust the guidelines over time, that sounds good. I think generally as long as people stop being jerks, this thread would be much better.
Alright thanks!
So basically use more courteous language is the extent of the problem? Because that's all I really get from your fixation on a phrase, you don't disagree with the actual content of my post then?
Well it's good to hear that you're willing to be flexible on this rule. I will say I've been guilty of saying certain companies or leaders have Sony's you know what down their throats, which I agree is too far.
I hope the first three bullet points are aimed at the trolls and bad faith commenters. I honestly don't have much to say about most of the rules, just the bias/favoritism one.
I mean, Juro Watari actually quit with the last reorg, Virtual On at least is 100% dead. I think you're underselling the CS3 consolidation here, it's actually a pretty impactful thing and the new division's output has dropped massively. At least M2 and Okunari got to reunite for the GG Micro and Aleste Collection.
i feel like those are clearly just going to encourage the trolls to bring more bad faith and false arguments and "just asking questions"ing all the time, and the onus will be on others to correct them constantly and not be able to just dismiss and ignore their arguments.
Good to know. I hope everyone can keep it cool in the coming weeks and give the new guidance a chance. Like I said before, I think the 4th bullet point about hostility and talking down to others is something we all agree can be worked on.
To be fair cvxfreak has said the rules will apply to everyone and he said that people will need a damn good reason to even whisper things like "japan doesn't matter", which I feel a lot of us regulars have complained about. I think we should at least give it a few weeks to see how things work out.
yeah, you're right. we should wait and see how the new guidelines will affect the MC threads but right now i don't have a good feeling about them.
I think even with the supposed good WoM, 80% seems like a safe bet. It seems to be the standard drop for single player JRPGs.
Actually, another quick question but is this targeted only to devs/pubs or does it apply generally to industry figures like journalists, analysts, etc? And will this be strictly for MC threads or does it now apply generally on Era?
Most of us had the luxury to just stay away from the threads for a while when there was too much BS going on. He kinda had to be active as an essential part of the threads. I definitely couldn't have handled all the BS over the last couple months. Nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistake but I think he and many other users here were just holding out for more actions to be taken, so we could back to somewhat regular programming. It didn't really happen and kept getting worse until it reached it high point with Takes of Arise. Didn't take a part in tbag discussion because I knew things would get hairy when I read users being accused of being happy or hoping it would underperform or bomb. If you start your argument like this nothing good is gonna come from it.
I will agree that things were getting a little heated the past few weeks. It started simmering a few months back when PS5 software data started to come in and really took off after Scarlet Nexus's launch. Ultimately, I think it was inevitable and someone did need to step in. If I appreciate cvxfreak for anything, it's at least hopefully allowing this thread to "reset" itself and cool off, if you will.
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JRPGs and Tales games especially typically have big drops. This game has good WoM to help offset that, but it's still a JRPG.
What does this data say about sales for this upcoming week? Sorry I'm newer to these threads.This is the comg results for this week
Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2021 (Sep 06 - Sep 12) [Read STAFF POST] Sales
Rank Prev Console Game Total Change Price Publisher 1 – PS4 Tales of Arise 67 -181 ¥7,980 Bandai Namco 2 – NSW WarioWare: Get It Together! 21 -34 ¥4,980 Nintendo 3 NEW PS4 Neptunia x Senran Kagura: Ninja Wars 14 0 ¥7,600 Compile Heart 4 – NSW Minecraft 12 -12 ¥3,600 Microsoft 5 NEW PS4...
it just never works when moderation sets big sweeping guidelines like this for a community without consulting the members, specially those who contribute a lot to them. like it or not, some members ARE more important (and their contributions have been the reason these threads have existed and been popular for years) and their opinion on what will improve them is important. i fully agree that these threads could be better when it comes to treating newcomers, and having more patience with them, but if you've been paying close (or not so close) attention for the past few years, there are people who aren't happy with the actual and factual data being posted here. that is not something the regulars can help with. there are console warriors who don't like the data we get and would rather no one talked and analyzed the actual data. of course the solution for them is just to ignore the threads, but they don't do that and would instead invest a lot of time subtly and not-so-subtly derail the threads and troll in them with bad faith questions and arguments. so IF the new guidelines are kinda made to appease them (which to me, it looks like they are) it's really bad for the community. i'm sure the intention of the moderation is good and they want to make everyone happy. but when there's a years long campaign against these threads, in and out of them, it doesn't feel right when the guidelines are influenced by those who don't actually like the community or feel part of it.
Welcome! It's good to have you here. I'm honestly not 100% sure how to read these numbers either, but you just need to look at the "change" on the right. The PS5 version is gone from the top 20 altogether, while the PS4 version dropped quite a bit.
I feel like I read these exact same words right before AsiaEra bolted.
Have you seen the AsiaEra and staff meeting thread? Nothing good came out of that. The pushback got so bad, that it took an entire community leaving to finally have a constructive mod criticism thread.
yeah i know about that. just saying, don't be surprised if these threads went from 20+ pages a week to much less than that.
do they have to? seems to me like they can basically keep doing business as usual.
Amazon jp also had the ps5 ver on backordered for a few days but now it's on stock sgain
Source - https://store-tsutaya.tsite.jp/rank/game.html?sc_ext=tsutaya_store_ranking_game_sell_more
Comg basically seems to have zero stocks for ps5 arise
