Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
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Got a text message from DHL letting me know my order from Akkogear shipped a week later than they said with a completely different tracking number.

At least it's still scheduled to arrive this month, and i know it's actually shipped.
 

Mivey

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any recs for a mech numpad? Are there any hotswap ones?
I use this simple Bluetooth numpad from Magicforce: https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical...cforce+numpad+bluetooth&qid=1623864830&sr=8-4
This one has Cherry Blue, but there's also ones that use Red, and Browns, as well as some Gateron switches. I wanted something very, very simple and cheap, and that's what this is.

If you are fine with spending quite a bit more, there's this one that's currently in stock: https://epomaker.com/products/epomaker-gk21s-kit

Hotswappable and supports both wired and wireless mode. Arguably the best you can do, I think.
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
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My Sailor Moon Akko 3108v2 came in and I'm instantly in love. Everything about the keyboard is beautiful, and the Akko Orange switches are really nice IMO. I like this more than my older keyboard that died a year or two back that had kailh browns. I think it's also slightly quieter, though I still bottom out pretty hard. Going to take a little while to get used to a mech keyboard again. My hands are a little more tired typing than I'm used to with the flimsy membrane keyboards, but not so much so that they are genuinely uncomfortable.
 

super-famicom

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Oct 26, 2017
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Mech keyboard adjacent:
Sooo, if you like fighting games but don't want to use a controller or arcade stick, and you like using a keyboard but feel you hit the wrong key too often, there's something called the fight board.

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There's a low profile model which uses Kailh Choc switches (these seem to be sold out), and a standard Cherry MX model.
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
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My Sailor Moon Akko 3108v2 came in and I'm instantly in love. Everything about the keyboard is beautiful, and the Akko Orange switches are really nice IMO. I like this more than my older keyboard that died a year or two back that had kailh browns. I think it's also slightly quieter, though I still bottom out pretty hard. Going to take a little while to get used to a mech keyboard again. My hands are a little more tired typing than I'm used to with the flimsy membrane keyboards, but not so much so that they are genuinely uncomfortable.
Yeah didn't take as long as I thought it would to adjust. Already hitting 88WPM adjusted, was 75 adjusted just a couple hours ago. Very nice.
 

Quaker

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not too familiar with mechanical keyboards but I would appreciate some help.

Went back into the office for the first time in 15 months last week and I can't go back to the awful $10 Logitech rubber membrane Staples special but I don't want anything flashy or too expensive. It's an open office so it needs to be silent or as quiet as a standard rubber membrane keyboard and I actively don't want any RGB. Needs to be full size, including the Home, Pause/Break key and PrtSc + Num Pad because I mostly use an ancient terminal program that uses those keys specifically.

Found the Keychron C2 on Amazon for $48 which seems adequate.


I just need to replace the Red switches with something more quiet.

Would these Kailh box silent pink switches be recommended/compatible with the hot swap mechanism on that board?


(Is there any other recommended vendor for these aside from Amazon that has these in-stock? Their official AliExpress store is somehow more expensive than Amazon and most others I found were OOS.)

I use Cherry red switches at home but those would be way too loud to use in the office, so I'm OK with some degree of mushiness in comparison as long as they're super quiet.

Thanks for any feedback.
 
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Soya

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Oct 28, 2017
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Not too familiar with mechanical keyboards but I would appreciate some help.

Went back into the office for the first time in 15 months last week and I can't go back to the awful $10 Logitech rubber membrane Staples special but I don't want anything flashy or too expensive. It's an open office so it needs to be silent or as quiet as a standard rubber membrane keyboard and I actively don't want any RGB. Needs to be full size, including the Home, Pause/Break key and PrtSc + Num Pad because I mostly use an ancient terminal program that uses those keys specifically.

Found the Keychron C2 on Amazon for $48 which seems adequate.


I just need to replace the Red switches with something more quiet.

Would these Kailh box silent pink switches be recommended/compatible with the hot swap mechanism on that board?


(Is there any other recommended vendor for these aside from Amazon that has these in-stock? Their official AliExpress store is somehow more expensive than Amazon and most others I found were OOS.)

I use Cherry red switches at home but those would be way too loud to use in the office, so I'm OK with some degree of mushiness in comparison as long as they're super quiet.

Thanks for any feedback.
I personally use Gazzew Bobagum silent linears and they are quieter than regular rubber dome switches.


They should be compatible with that keyboard since it supports 5 pin switches. The problem could be the price.
$0.60 per switch you would have to spend around $66 for a full size keyboard.
 

super-famicom

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not too familiar with mechanical keyboards but I would appreciate some help.

Went back into the office for the first time in 15 months last week and I can't go back to the awful $10 Logitech rubber membrane Staples special but I don't want anything flashy or too expensive. It's an open office so it needs to be silent or as quiet as a standard rubber membrane keyboard and I actively don't want any RGB. Needs to be full size, including the Home, Pause/Break key and PrtSc + Num Pad because I mostly use an ancient terminal program that uses those keys specifically.

Found the Keychron C2 on Amazon for $48 which seems adequate.


I just need to replace the Red switches with something more quiet.

Would these Kailh box silent pink switches be recommended/compatible with the hot swap mechanism on that board?


(Is there any other recommended vendor for these aside from Amazon that has these in-stock? Their official AliExpress store is somehow more expensive than Amazon and most others I found were OOS.)

I use Cherry red switches at home but those would be way too loud to use in the office, so I'm OK with some degree of mushiness in comparison as long as they're super quiet.

Thanks for any feedback.

You can also get some rubber o-rings to further reduce the noise of the reds.
 

Zissou

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not too familiar with mechanical keyboards but I would appreciate some help.

Went back into the office for the first time in 15 months last week and I can't go back to the awful $10 Logitech rubber membrane Staples special but I don't want anything flashy or too expensive. It's an open office so it needs to be silent or as quiet as a standard rubber membrane keyboard and I actively don't want any RGB. Needs to be full size, including the Home, Pause/Break key and PrtSc + Num Pad because I mostly use an ancient terminal program that uses those keys specifically.

Found the Keychron C2 on Amazon for $48 which seems adequate.


I just need to replace the Red switches with something more quiet.

Would these Kailh box silent pink switches be recommended/compatible with the hot swap mechanism on that board?


(Is there any other recommended vendor for these aside from Amazon that has these in-stock? Their official AliExpress store is somehow more expensive than Amazon and most others I found were OOS.)

I use Cherry red switches at home but those would be way too loud to use in the office, so I'm OK with some degree of mushiness in comparison as long as they're super quiet.

Thanks for any feedback.

There are also silent alpacas.
 

Quaker

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Oct 27, 2017
273
I personally use Gazzew Bobagum silent linears and they are quieter than regular rubber dome switches.


They should be compatible with that keyboard since it supports 5 pin switches. The problem could be the price.
$0.60 per switch you would have to spend around $66 for a full size keyboard.

You can also get some rubber o-rings to further reduce the noise of the reds.
I would think the majority of sound from a linear switch would be from the key caps bottoming out. I don't know enough about mechs in general though...

Yeah i was going to guess this would be the solution for that.
Thanks for the suggestions, I will look up some Youtube videos and have these in consideration.

Forgot about o-rings. I have those on my current Cherry reds and they do help a little so I'll try those too.

Also, has anyone seen any keycaps that emulate the font on the 90s Apple keyboards?

I've seen two, one set is very expensive on AliExpress and have a non-standard bulbous profile and the other ones are the Keychron retro set but I don't care for the "cute" specialty keys for Enter and Backspace and such.

www.keychron.com

Keychron OEM Profile PBT Retro Keycap Set

The Keychron K2 and K6 PBT Retro Mac Keycap Set is crafted to honor to the spirit that Apple bring us. Inspired by the best keyboard Apple ever made (Apple Extended Keyboard), this dye-sub PBT Keycap Set is set to reminiscent the good old days and stands out from the crowd in a unique way.
 

Danielsan

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Oct 26, 2017
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I am currently in the market for my first mechanical keyboard and have been looking at some youtube reviews, reddit, user reviews and general availability in Europe and I'm simply too overwhelmed. Perhaps you guys can nudge me in the right direction?

Ideally I would like to be set for € 200 or less. I'm currently using a Logitech K800 wireless which I've been using since forever. It's a full size keyboard and ideally I'd like to scale down to 65 or 75%. I don't ever use the numpad and I can deal with the F keys being on function keys, but I do want to have the arrow keys in there. The reason for the upgrade is in part because of aesthetics, and in part because I'd like to have a better typing experience and more room for my mouse. Being able to customize the keyboard with custom keycaps is a must for me, but ideally the stock board comes with a good set of PBT keys. Wireless is a nice to have, but is not required. I would like to have RGB backlighting though. I have no prior experience with mechanical switches but I get the sense that tacticle brown switches are the way to go for me. I just want a good and tactile feel, but don't want to wake my girlfriend up while typing.

Thusfar I've looked at Keychron K2 (worried about the height of the board requiring a wristpad), Ducky One 2 SF (not a fan of the inefficient key layout on the right side) and the Durgod Hades 68 (for some reason more difficult to replace the keycaps I believe?). Would be really grateful for any recommendations!
 

Zissou

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Oct 26, 2017
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I am currently in the market for my first mechanical keyboard and have been looking at some youtube reviews, reddit, user reviews and general availability in Europe and I'm simply too overwhelmed. Perhaps you guys can nudge me in the right direction?

Ideally I would like to be set for € 200 or less. I'm currently using a Logitech K800 wireless which I've been using since forever. It's a full size keyboard and ideally I'd like to scale down to 65 or 75%. I don't ever use the numpad and I can deal with the F keys being on function keys, but I do want to have the arrow keys in there. The reason for the upgrade is in part because of aesthetics, and in part because I'd like to have a better typing experience and more room for my mouse. Being able to customize the keyboard with custom keycaps is a must for me, but ideally the stock board comes with a good set of PBT keys. Wireless is a nice to have, but is not required. I would like to have RGB backlighting though. I have no prior experience with mechanical switches but I get the sense that tacticle brown switches are the way to go for me. I just want a good and tactile feel, but don't want to wake my girlfriend up while typing.

Thusfar I've looked at Keychron K2 (worried about the height of the board requiring a wristpad), Ducky One 2 SF (not a fan of the inefficient key layout on the right side) and the Durgod Hades 68 (for some reason more difficult to replace the keycaps I believe?). Would be really grateful for any recommendations!

For 65% boards, the GMMK Pro is pretty popular these days. The NK65 is also nice.
 

Danielsan

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Oct 26, 2017
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For 65% boards, the GMMK Pro is pretty popular these days. The NK65 is also nice.
Thanks. I ended up ordering the GMMK Pro in black despite it meaning that I'll go vastly over budget and will likely have to wait a bit for it to be delivered. I really like the design and the fact that the switches are hot swappable is a plus. Ordered the Gateron Brown keys alongside it and I am now looking for a nice set of keycaps and a coiled cable to finish it up.

I really underestimated how pricey custom keycaps are... I saw the Wasabi v2 keycap set up for pre-order on candykeys and it's a whopping € 145 for the base set and € 55 for a few alternate keys. And then you have to wait until end of 2021 / early 2022 to get them. Are these normal prices for GMK keys, cause man...
 

pillowtalk

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Oct 10, 2018
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My future funk caps came in. Kinda unhappy with how the colors came out. The preview renders were more dark purple than this.

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Yappa

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wish Logitech hurried up and announced an improved revision or successor for their G915 keyboard.
Make ALL keys backlit and change the placement of the G-keys.
 

Xils

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Feb 4, 2020
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I really underestimated how pricey custom keycaps are... I saw the Wasabi v2 keycap set up for pre-order on candykeys and it's a whopping € 145 for the base set and € 55 for a few alternate keys. And then you have to wait until end of 2021 / early 2022 to get them. Are these normal prices for GMK keys, cause man...
GMK caps are around that price (they're made in Germany) and for sets you can still order now, early 2022 is a really generous estimate. It can easily take up to more than a year for a more popular set with huge volume. GMK Apollo was running from Feb-March 2020 and expected to ship in late 2020 but got delayed until August this year (for now at least, they said May, then June before).

Part of the reason for delay is the color matching of the sample not matching what the desinger had in mind so there was some back and forth in the process, which is not uncommon. Many sets ran into this issue.
The big part of why it take so long for GMK caps is how popular this hobby has become so the demands are much greater than ever and there is not much choice in manufacturing these caps, especially high quality double-shot ABS ones (PBT caps are not as good when it comes to reproducing some of the colors) so everyone flock to GMK.

GMK sets are also usually come in a pretty big set that cover wide range of layout so the base price will be higher than others.

Try looking for ePBT sets, they are typically cheaper (with choices to get a smaller set with just the keys you need) and pretty high quality. Their selections are way more limited color-wise though. Even Tai-hao caps are pretty good compare to most stock caps on pre-built boards and they can be really cheap so they can be a good choice if you want something cheap and readily available.
 

Danielsan

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Oct 26, 2017
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GMK caps are around that price (they're made in Germany) and for sets you can still order now, early 2022 is a really generous estimate. It can easily take up to more than a year for a more popular set with huge volume. GMK Apollo was running from Feb-March 2020 and expected to ship in late 2020 but got delayed until August this year (for now at least, they said May, then June before).

Part of the reason for delay is the color matching of the sample not matching what the desinger had in mind so there was some back and forth in the process, which is not uncommon. Many sets ran into this issue.
The big part of why it take so long for GMK caps is how popular this hobby has become so the demands are much greater than ever and there is not much choice in manufacturing these caps, especially high quality double-shot ABS ones (PBT caps are not as good when it comes to reproducing some of the colors) so everyone flock to GMK.

GMK sets are also usually come in a pretty big set that cover wide range of layout so the base price will be higher than others.

Try looking for ePBT sets, they are typically cheaper (with choices to get a smaller set with just the keys you need) and pretty high quality. Their selections are way more limited color-wise though. Even Tai-hao caps are pretty good compare to most stock caps on pre-built boards and they can be really cheap so they can be a good choice if you want something cheap and readily available.
Thank you for the lengthy explanation. I actually hadn't realized before that the GMK keycaps were ABS. For the time being I've purchased some cheap HK Gaming PBT pudding keycaps to tide me over until there is a group buy of either a GMK or ePBT design that really speaks to me. I
 

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Took a stab at making my own cable. Didn't go horribly. I probably need to tighten the coil a bit and re-set it. Overall I'm pretty happy with it.
 

Xils

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https://novelkeys.xyz/products/aluvia-keycaps-gb

All CNC'd aluminium keycap set and it is Olivia at that.

$350 may seems absurd for just keycaps but considering the price of a single artisan aluminium cap, getting an entire set for $350 is not that bad. There's also the fact that Olivia sets used to go for around this price point in the aftermarket, and that's just a plastic set.

It's still fucking expensive for sure and having your entire board be aluminium is ridiculous (I really like the feel of touching some of my aluminium caps though) but damn, I'm so tempted to get one.
Luckily, I already have an Olivia set so I should be able to resist the temptation.
 

Anson225

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hi all, planning to get a new wired keyboard with a $200 budget.
what do you think about Logitech g512 or g813?

any other good recommendations?
 

Plax

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Nov 23, 2019
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Looks like I can grab a cheap Corsair K70 (Aluminum/Silver). It's probably a bit old, but I gave it a go after cleaning it up - and really like the feel ll(cherry red switches).

Anyone have experience with this keyboard? Should I just pay for something new. I'm pretty new to mechanical keyboards so unsure if there are recent developments/switches or features that are worth paying for.
 

jediyoshi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Today's the last day of the KAM Lil Dragon group buy.




Originally I was going to just buy a set to make a build for a friend.

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Then I realized I wanted it too :`)
 

Sky Chief

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https://novelkeys.xyz/products/aluvia-keycaps-gb

All CNC'd aluminium keycap set and it is Olivia at that.

$350 may seems absurd for just keycaps but considering the price of a single artisan aluminium cap, getting an entire set for $350 is not that bad. There's also the fact that Olivia sets used to go for around this price point in the aftermarket, and that's just a plastic set.

It's still fucking expensive for sure and having your entire board be aluminium is ridiculous (I really like the feel of touching some of my aluminium caps though) but damn, I'm so tempted to get one.
Luckily, I already have an Olivia set so I should be able to resist the temptation.

I bought two
 

Sky Chief

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Anson225

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Oct 26, 2017
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Hi all, I've narrowed down a few choices for a full size mechanical keyboard. Which would you recommend?
I'm looking for full sized and wired
  • Steelseries Apex Pro
  • Logitech G813
  • Razer Black Widow Elite
  • GMMK
 

Grifter

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Oct 26, 2017
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Tuning an ID80 as I wait on group buys to complete. Can I get some opinions on how this sounds after I taped up my PCB?

 

sca

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Oct 25, 2017
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Tuning an ID80 as I wait on group buys to complete. Can I get some opinions on how this sounds after I taped up my PCB?


The high pitch sound at either bottoming out or the very start of the upstroke is mostly muted/dampen when taped. Not sure if it's the springs that are causing it. Sounds good, if that's what you wanted
 

Grifter

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The high pitch sound at either bottoming out or the very start of the upstroke is mostly muted/dampen when taped. Not sure if it's the springs that are causing it. Sounds good, if that's what you wanted
Cheers. Experimenting with the board and wasn't sure what to expect, but glad to get a bassier sound.
 

nullref

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looks like Rama Works has opened up another production run of the Kara:

ramaworks.store

KARA SEQ2

The official RAMA WORKS® store – Boutique studio creating computer peripherals, tech gadgets, and household objects.

I'd been interested in getting one after having missed the initial run, but I'm not really feeling any of the colors for round two. I wanted either Soya or Moon from the first run.
 
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purg3

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Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like Rama Words has opened up another production run of the Kara:

ramaworks.store

KARA SEQ2

The official RAMA WORKS® store – Boutique studio creating computer peripherals, tech gadgets, and household objects.

I'd been interested in getting one after having missed the initial run, but I'm not really feeling any of the colors for round two.

I'm digging the orange, but just not a fan of the layout.
 

nullref

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Oct 27, 2017
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as a complete novice

what do you need of the optional parts? and then switches and keys on top?

You don't strictly need any of the optional parts—though yes, you do have to bring your own switches, stabilizers, and keycaps. (That's the norm for custom keyboard kits.)

You'd want the optional plate either for aesthetics, typing feel/rigidity, or maybe because you plan to convert the PCB to hotswap and need the extra surface for the switches to clip into and hold everything together. If you want the rotary knob, that's an optional extra.

The Millmax sockets are to convert the PCB to hotswap if you want, by soldering those sockets onto each individual switch pin contact hole in the PCB. Otherwise, you're just soldering the switches to the PCB as normal. (It's a soldering-heavy kit in general, depending on what you want to do with it, as you have to solder on all the LED diodes and whatnot yourself as well.)