Seriously.
Being Influenced is quite different from being straight up mind controlled.
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Marvel Confirms Loki was Mind controlled in The Avengers
- Thread starter Ashby
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Seriously.
Being Influenced is quite different from being straight up mind controlled.
Yea, and then him basically having a a vision or some kind of trance where he's being talked to by Thanos's little lacky, and then the guy touches his head. Loki looked sickly with veins on his face, wicked past with dark bags.
Does not look like that in thor 2 and Ragnarok.
Why tho? People still loved him as an asshole. People loved him because he was an asshole. Seeing Loki go from dude who wanted to kill Thor and everyone else to dude who tried to stab the most powerful person in existence in order to save his brother was great.
The official poster for Thor 2 in China was vaguely hinting at that, though.
The official poster for Thor 2 in China was vaguely hinting at that, though.
Unsure if serious.
That was a fan poster that some random store found online and posted up as advertisement.
Isn't the whole point that the stone when in the scepter, at least, fuels negative emotion? This is why when all the heroes are in the same room as it they begin to fight and seriously escalate - Banner reaching for the Scepter, Fury his gun, Stark and Rogers offering a fist fight to each other?
Like, it says it influenced Loki, not controlled him. We know he has sociopathic, psychotic tendencies. They're his. The stone just exaggerated them.
Like, it says it influenced Loki, not controlled him. We know he has sociopathic, psychotic tendencies. They're his. The stone just exaggerated them.
Exactly, people are acting as if this removes agency from Loki or somehow justifies his actions. But that's not the point, the point is he's still him, just a slightly more "the worst" version of him. This is readily apparent if you compare his characterisation in the movies preceding and following The Avengers.
That thing with his eyes everyone noticed immediately and said was too predictable/lame to be true wound up being true? yikes
Yup. His behavior when he first arrives on Earth is also extremely out of character for him both before and after that scene. There's clearly meant to be something going on, since one thing we do know about him is that he would never take the abuse heaped on him by Thanos' flunky. Also note how his demeanor changes completely after the Hulk beats the living shit out of him. He never rejoins the fight and just sort of sits there even though he's not all that hurt, waiting for the Avengers to come get him. It was always obvious he was at least in some kind of One Ring style haze due to the scepter, it's just never been something addressed until now.
In general the recent trend of "explain stuff that's not in the text" is kind of stupid. If you wanted that to actually be A Thing put it in the movie. Either way it's kind of irrelevant to how people perceived the character.
This entire thing is from the bio page which really should be in the OP and not some pointless article about it:
So it corrupted him a bit... I mean he still wanted to do the bad shit before.
So it corrupted him a bit... I mean he still wanted to do the bad shit before.
Isn't that why the Avengers were arguing on the Helicarrier, since they were in the room with the Mind Stone? I thought it all made sense
1) Why doesn't the Mind Stone negatively influence anyone when Vision is around?
2) Why the fuck did Thanos willingly give Loki an Infinity Stone? I can't remember what was the motivation behind attacking Earth in Avengers 1 tbh.
2) Why the fuck did Thanos willingly give Loki an Infinity Stone? I can't remember what was the motivation behind attacking Earth in Avengers 1 tbh.
1) the corrupting influence has to do with the 'refocusing' that the scepter does. It's why the scepter corrupts everyone in the "You're all so petty...and tiny" scene on the helicarrier, and possibly why Ultron is a corrupted being (because his design came from the scepter's output).
2) Thanos was betting a stone to gain a stone (or two). He knew Earth had the terreract (and possibly the time stone) and decided to send Loki out to conquer the planet, so that he could gain them.