I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
The topic is framed in truth. I can until I grow old get unemployment benefits without actually having the sickness that got me those benefits before. So for me its a choice. Once I start working again, I lose out on the comfort of my situation.
Honestly, I prefer to be asexual, always have. I dated before and had one long term relationship that ended in another country. I miss her but I had no future with her so I left. I tried dating in austria, could only afford it when I worked. Didnt really like the stress of dating didnt fall in love. So now I just don't care, I have my sisters as women in my life.
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yo to all those "bootstraps" and "stop being lazy on my dime" types. This will be the future. we will soon enter a time where people cannot get the job or the jobs wont be able to sustain them. we are already close to that where many are having to juggle multiple part-time jobs due to a lack of work for the unskilled / unqualified. its not sustainable to require everyone to go to university to get a degree when they cost so much. on top of that we will have automation taking loads of jobs. it will be quite normal to see a 20%+ unemployment rate. we need to prepare for that future.
You realise you're committing benefit fraud and when you get caught you'll be made to pay back every penny and potentially face jail time?Honestly, I prefer to be asexual, always have. I dated before and had one long term relationship that ended in another country. I miss her but I had no future with her so I left. I tried dating in austria, could only afford it when I worked. Didnt really like the stress of dating didnt fall in love. So now I just don't care, I have my sisters as women in my life.
I came to austria, I did my job searching like a good guy. I worked as a waiter. I took a graphic design course. I looked for work for months. Never got an art or graphic design job. And I was good with things, competent. I got callbacks but my resume really was never good enough.
I got mentally very sick for a while, stopped being a waiter was hospitalized and claimed unemployable temporarily for medication I had to take. But that was over 4 years ago. Since than I havnt taken the medication but still claim to the government that I do.
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
The topic is framed in truth. I can until I grow old get unemployment benefits without actually having the sickness that got me those benefits before. So for me its a choice. Once I start working again, I lose out on the comfort of my situation.
Its a grey area. A doctor will after reading my medical files always sign me up for unemployable but the marijuana healed me better than the meds ever could. So I am fine and healthy now, but documents say im not, my pschologist I see a month says im not, but I know deep down I am fine and could work and that the truama that got me on social benefits in the first place is over.You realise you're committing benefit fraud and when you get caught you'll be made to pay back every penny and potentially face jail time?
It's not a grey area at all. You're committing fraud and any change in your circumstances are supposed to be told to the government ( which you will have signed even applying for the benefits btw). You haven't done that and are illeitimately claiming benefits. You're literally committing benefit fraud it's as simple as that.Its a grey area. A doctor will after reading my medical files always sign me up for unemployable but the marijuana healed me better than the meds ever could. So I am fine and healthy now, but documents say im not, my pschologist I see a month says im not, but I know deep down I am fine and could work and that the truama that got me on social benefits in the first place is over.
So maybe its unethical. but its not fraud. No fake documents or lies being told. Just my circumstances.
I actually think OP thinks he is better health wise than he is. But that could be just me thinking that way.
Its a grey area. A doctor will after reading my medical files always sign me up for unemployable but the marijuana healed me better than the meds ever could. So I am fine and healthy now, but documents say im not, my pschologist I see a month says im not, but I know deep down I am fine and could work and that the truama that got me on social benefits in the first place is over.
So maybe its unethical. but its not fraud. No fake documents or lies being told. Just my circumstances.
Yup, I could very much relate to some parts of OP:s situation. I've also felt that my life would be "just fine" if I was just left alone and would get enough monetary assistance to survive. But that's not all true, I've used video games and also weed just like the OP to escape the pressure and stress I've been ill-equipped to handle. It led to things like social isolation which isn't good. To combat that I'm currently doing a volunteer work beside my studies. Since it's distance learning there's really no social links there, so I volunteer to get to be part of a community. Most of my friends have started their families which takes much of their time, some have moved away too. And I was feeling kind of lonely in my situation, so I've made efforts to make things better for myself. Luckily my country has helped me greatly in that and not just by welfare but healthcare and rehabilitation programs. Not drug or alcohol related, not sure if there would be better word for it in English. But programs for long time unemployed, while those don't always help people to get to studying or workforce right away they do have other benefits in making that person's quality of life bit better. Which is a good first step. For me the feeling of being content was partly because acknowledgment of the priviledge of having such safety nets, I can't personally complain for what I have since so many don't even have the half of that in other countries (not even near the half). And just being able to escape the pressure that comes from expectations of being a "productive" part of society can make someone feel content. Since it can beat the alternative as you say of being stressed as hell which can lead to many different symptoms.He was depressed when he first went on it, now he says he is content. Who's to say if he went back into the working life he wouldn't become ill again? That is the problem with many people with mental health problems (I was like this) you feel better because there is less stress. But it can still come back soon as you change your life. It's that and you don't want to push yourself because one you are deep down worried you will feel shit again and two you get in a rut.
OP isn't simply just lazy
I live off welfare/disability.I suffer from Schizophrenia,and have a heart condition.I worked up until the age of 29,I'm now 43.I have volunteered but always end up ill at some point as my illness has only got worse not better.I live in sheltered housing with my partner who is also ill.
Yet I still feel ashamed,even knowing it's not my fault....I believe it's the constant narrative from the UK press,TV,goverment that we're all scroungers no matter what.....All I want is to stay well,and have simple pleasures like gaming and movies....yet I'm made to feel guilty over it.
It's not a grey area at all. You're committing fraud and any change in your circumstances are supposed to be told to the government ( which you will have signed even applying for the benefits btw). You haven't done that and are illeitimately claiming benefits. You're literally committing benefit fraud it's as simple as that.
This. You are abusing a system that was designed for people who can't find/work a job.
"my" welfare lol
Good luck with that, can only hope Karma sorts this out.
Kind of hard to tell the goverment that self medicating on marijuana healed me and Im fine to work. My pschologist doesnt believe in marijuana.It's not a grey area at all. You're committing fraud and any change in your circumstances are supposed to be told to the government ( which you will have signed even applying for the benefits btw). You haven't done that and are illeitimately claiming benefits. You're literally committing benefit fraud it's as simple as that.
Also sounds like he's still pretending to be in the same situation and pretending to take meds. A psychologist can only go off what you say etc, they're not exactly in your mind and know what's going on.
Because he also said this:
Because he also said this:
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
It's not a grey area at all. You're committing fraud and any change in your circumstances are supposed to be told to the government ( which you will have signed even applying for the benefits btw). You haven't done that and are illeitimately claiming benefits. You're literally committing benefit fraud it's as simple as that.
Or he can't see how ill he is as he is used to the life style of shutting himself awayAlso sounds like he's still pretending to be in the same situation and pretending to take meds. A psychologist can only go off what you say etc, they're not exactly in your mind and know what's going on.
Oh no, it's you again. Weren't you also disparaging dumpster divers? You come of as very unempathetic and judgemental person, you should work on that.Because he also said this:
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
Not really mentally very healthy. but I am capable to work. I was hospitalized for a month. Doctors thought I had schizophrenia, maybe I did, but I definitely don't anymore.Because he also said this:
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
Uhm. I strongly disagree. By that same logic we could say "if OP were to receive only 5€ a month from government aid, everyone would be equally as mad"
That's the main issue, people say "It's about fairness! it's about the principle!". Nah - nobody would be all riled up if OP didn't make 800€ but only 10% of that.
It's very much about how much (or how little) people like OP cost the government. Or it should be - because that's what people (pretend to?) argue about - whether a country as a whole can afford people like OP. And i think it totally can - meanwhile huge corporations fuck us on multiple ends because they kill local (tax paying!) business, don't pay liveable wages and drain the government of tax income.
You truly have no idea where your taxes go to be that pompous about your taxes. Welfare depending where you are is one of the smaller tax burdens and yet people complain about that but not about huge tax incentives given to companies and rich etc that make the middles taxes so high to begin with.Welfare is a great thing for those who need it, which I fully support my tax money going to. If you don't actually need it you shouldn't get it unless you put in an effort to find a job etc. My taxes should be used for those who need help, not those who are just too lazy to help themselves.
Because he also said this:
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
I think it might be a good time to stop posting.Honestly, I prefer to be asexual, always have. I dated before and had one long term relationship that ended in another country. I miss her but I had no future with her so I left. I tried dating in austria, could only afford it when I worked. Didnt really like the stress of dating didnt fall in love. So now I just don't care, I have my sisters as women in my life.
I came to austria, I did my job searching like a good guy. I worked as a waiter. I took a graphic design course. I looked for work for months. Never got an art or graphic design job. And I was good with things, competent. I got callbacks but my resume really was never good enough.
I got mentally very sick for a while, stopped being a waiter was hospitalized and claimed unemployable temporarily for medication I had to take. But that was over 4 years ago. Since than I havnt taken the medication but still claim to the government that I do.
I'm mentally very healthy, and am completely capable to work. But I choose not too. I can claim to never recover and continue avoiding the job counselor indefinitely. So I do it.
The topic is framed in truth. I can until I grow old get unemployment benefits without actually having the sickness that got me those benefits before. So for me its a choice. Once I start working again, I lose out on the comfort of my situation.
You're happy to let others bust their asses to finance your shit? Come on dude.
Thisyo to all those "bootstraps" and "stop being lazy on my dime" types. This will be the future. we will soon enter a time where people cannot get the job or the jobs wont be able to sustain them. we are already close to that where many are having to juggle multiple part-time jobs due to a lack of work for the unskilled / unqualified. its not sustainable to require everyone to go to university to get a degree when they cost so much. on top of that we will have automation taking loads of jobs. it will be quite normal to see a 20%+ unemployment rate. we need to prepare for that future.
I live off welfare/disability.I suffer from Schizophrenia,and have a heart condition.I worked up until the age of 29,I'm now 43.I have volunteered but always end up ill at some point as my illness has only got worse not better.I live in sheltered housing with my partner who is also ill.
Yet I still feel ashamed,even knowing it's not my fault....I believe it's the constant narrative from the UK press,TV,goverment that we're all scroungers no matter what.....All I want is to stay well,and have simple pleasures like gaming and movies....yet I'm made to feel guilty over it.
In Finland they also push people towards different programs and workshops, or school. And they also cut your income support by max 40% if the person is deemed just to be unwilling to take work.I wouldn't be posting this on the internet...
And is there no obligation to apply for interviews a certain amount of times a week, participate in interview trainings and even do public service in Austria? It is here if you're on welfare.
It shouldn't. The problem is with the people using OP against the programs.shit like the OP gives people a bad opinion of good government programs.
...That's not how scizophrenia works without a doctor checking. Especially if your psychologist still believes you're sick.Doctors thought I had schizophrenia, maybe I did, but I definitely don't anymore.
Where is he originally from?you could actually be my younger brother, except that he never worked as a waiter. The city of Vienna also provided him a flat, which is a little funny because he's not even Austrian
If the Pentagon can lose $21 Trillion of public money, I really can't be mad if someone wants to cheese welfare and just smoke weed all day.shit like the OP gives people a bad opinion of good government programs.
Not true. They aren't daft and will catch on eventually when he slips up. He already admitted to lying about continuing to take his meds, all it will take is a blood test to not show the meds he's on and they'll start looking into why etc. No idea what the healthcare system is like in his country but if they have an NHS-likesystem, that's not exactly helping either putting strain on the NHS equivelant's budget for no reason.Yeah he is commuting fraud
The chance he will get caught are zero
I think you're just giving him too much credit because I know you have mental issues aswell and you like to believe everyone is legit. I have bad anxiety aswell and get ESA for it, so I'm not exactly opposed to people getting benefits if they need them. I also think you're from Glasgow right? so you'll know what it's like at Cadogan Street where it's pure degrading and they treat you like shit all because of a few people frauding the system, as if your issues aren't bad enough. Kinda hard to have sympathy for OP tbh.Or he can't see how ill he is as he is used to the life style of shutting himself away
I know 100% im not schizophrenic. I just had issues for a while because of a person and it drove me mad. That was a long time ago. I still have the diagnosis but its not true and I donno how guilty or shitty of a person that makes me.
Stuff like that, makes me think OP doesn't understand how he is health wise enough...That's not how scizophrenia works without a doctor checking. Especially if your psychologist still believes you're sick.